The sun orbits around the North Pole and it is 3 000 miles away and light has a limited range so the light shines only on the area it is close to.How does your average flat-Earther account for it being midday in the UK while being midnight in Fiji ?
Only the one that I am aware of, Inverness and opened last year.I'm still a bit baffled by the concept of a flat earth shop. Are they a regular fixture over in Scotland?
A wonderful disregard for centuries of scientific learning on that front page alone - I dread to think what the rest of the leaflet contains. "Water always finds its level". We'll, yes, but the idea that that is going to be a flat level is naive at best, wilfully ignorant at worst.Cover of a leaflet from the Flat Earth shopView attachment 14700
I am very curious as to what is behind this recent revival. :tfoil:
Funny, that. Around here (probably just a local phenomenon...), the sun actually appears the dip below the horizon at the end of the day, rather than just fade away.The sun orbits around the North Pole and it is 3 000 miles away and light has a limited range so the light shines only on the area it is close to.
Unbeliever!!!!!!!!!!Funny, that. Around here (probably just a local phenomenon...), the sun actually appears the dip below the horizon at the end of the day, rather than just fade away.
All aboard the Flat Earth cruise – just don’t tell them about nautical navigation
Flat earthers, who believe the Earth is a large disk, may be shocked to find the ship’s navigation is based on a spherical planet
A group of people who believe the Earth is flat have announced their “biggest, boldest, best adventure yet”: a Flat Earth cruise scheduled for 2020.
The cruise, organized by the Flat Earth International Conference, promises to be a lovely time. Flat earthers – who include the rapper B.o.B. and reality television person Tila Tequila – will be able to enjoy restaurants, swimming pools and perhaps even an artificial surf wave.
There’s just one problem for those seeking to celebrate the flatness of the Earth. The navigational systems cruise ships, and other vessels, use rely on the fact that the Earth is not flat: theoretically puncturing the beliefs of the flat Earth crowd.
“Ships navigate based on the principle that the Earth is round,” said Henk Keijer, a former cruise ship captain who sailed all over the globe during a 23-year career.
“Nautical charts are designed with that in mind: that the Earth is round.”
So, it's round and flat.
What's on the other side ?
I was very tempted to buy one of the mugs and use it at work!
Do they sell flat Earth globes ?
1) There is no logical reason why people who disagree with the globe hypothesis should agree about on an alternative. If we set aside that the globe hypothesis is proven, and apply the principle to something as yet unproven: people who reject the idea that the Loch Ness monster is a relict plesiosaur can still disagree about whether sightings are explained by unusual waves, hoaxes, a large species of eel, seals, etc. etc.
2) Flat Earth belief is a sort of cult. Cults thrive on being marginalised minorities and it is in the nature of cults that they divide and fragment. If there are enough small pools, everyone can be the big fish.
Most cults have a consistent dogma. It is pretty sick and sad when the Flat Earthers can't even agree on the flat earth they believe in.
... We may lump all Flat Earthers together, but I'm sure that on the inside, like any "movement" they have factions, wings, tendencies, offshoots, rebels and heretics.
On a globe, the lines of Longitude come together at the South Pole, as they do at the North Pole.
If the flat-Earthers believe the South Pole is a continuous ring of ice, where do the lines meet ?
Well, it is particularly prevalent in America, going hand in hand with climate change denialism and populism. So, I say general anti-authoritarianism is driving it. The hate is strong against cultural experts and institutions by this portion of the population who feel disenfranchised and are prone to extreme beliefs. Scientific consensus is an easy target as people are generally uneducated about how science works. Plus, scientists do a bad job of fighting back in public (with some exceptions).
Anti-globular convictions: Flat Earth belief explodes in popularity
I'm thinking that many of them already know it.They are spouting bollocks, and they need to know it.
I responded to Sharon Hill's link with 'Interesting link'; which it is.
Why do we even waste our time considering the flat Earth phenomena ?
Why don't we simply say to anyone who indicates that they truly believe it, 'Give up that rubbish. If you believe it against all the evidence, then you are an idiot and not even worth conversing with'.
'Shape up or shut up'.
Or are we just too polite ? Maybe see these people much the way people see puppies. 'Oh, how cute'.
They are spouting bollocks, and they need to know it.
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I don't doubt you are correct in many cases. They are just wind-up merchants. It is the believers who are a worry.
That doesn't sound too far fetched.The koran also mentions the Earth being flat. I'm guessing there's some gulf state money behind this.
I am considering it because I find it interesting. Partly because I am curious as to whether there will be anything in the reasoning that might make me think (nothing wrong with being made to think). Nothing so far by the way. I am also interested in why people believe it and why it has spread rather suddenly in the last few years. It is nothing, or at least not necessarily, to do with being mad or stupid.Why do we even waste our time considering the flat Earth phenomena ?