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Larry1803

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ForThose of you who are familiar with the Montauk project and the stories of time travel surrounding it,some say it's a conspiracy some believe it.

I actually been there (not time traveling) in the early 1970's

I grew up in a town on long island called ronkonkoma

My father serviced bowling alley equipment and one of his co workers used to repair the bowling equipment at the bowling alley at camp hero out at Montauk.

One day my father said the regular guy that was supposed to go to camp hero, couldn't make it, so they ask my father to go and he took me with him.

We go to camp hero, as we pulled in to this very small installation, I was amazed to see this gigantic radar antenna rotating on top of a building.

We go to this little bowling alley it only had 4 lanes ,and my dad started repairing the pinsetters.

They had someone stay with us the whole time we were there and the security guy that was watching us did not look like someone in the military, he had a beard and mustache and kinda long hair .

I was getting bored waiting for my dad to finish so I thought I would go outside, The security guy stopped me and told me I had to stay in the bowling alley.

Then I was getting hungry and ask my dad how much longer,the security guy
heard me and ask if my dad and i want to go to the mess hall,we did.

I saw people walking around and none of them looked military to me except one guy who had on fatigues.

Looking back, I can say something was very odd about the place,I don't know what, but for a military base they didn't act too military

True story
 
Thanks! That's interesting.

I can never quite bring myself to believe the more outlandish stories out there - but there seems to be a lot of weirdness associated with that base.
 
Nice story. The Montauk Project has always had mystery surrounding it. Unfortunately those who was peddling their story around the millenium, Al Bielek, Stewart Swerdlow and Duncan Cameron didn't have much credibility.

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Duncan Cameron is one of the central figure in the Philadelphia Experiment and Montauk Project saga. According to Al Bielek, Duncan was his brother (when Al was Ed Cameron) who jumped off the USS Eldridge in 1943 and landed into the future. When they wound up in 1983 at Montauk, both were sent back to the USS Eldridge to destroy the equipment that was keeping the ship in hyperspace.

Al Bielek says that before the USS Eldridge rematerialized, Duncan jumped back off the ship and returned back to 1983.

He was used extensively as a psychic in the Montauk project. During one of the experiments, Duncan Cameron lost his "time lock" and began to age one year for every hour that passed.

The time engineers at Montauk went back in time (to 1950) and convinced Duncan's original father, Alexander Cameron to sire another son. When done, they removed Duncan's soul and put it into the new child. This person is who we know today as Duncan Cameron.

The new Duncan picked up where the old Duncan left off. He became one of the principal psychics who manned the Montauk Chair. The chain was used to create and hold the frequency required to perform the time travel and mind control activities..................................

http://www.bielek.com/duncan.htm
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Vardoger said:
The time engineers at Montauk went back in time (to 1950) and convinced Duncan's original father, Alexander Cameron to sire another son. When done, they removed Duncan's soul and put it into the new child. This person is who we know today as Duncan Cameron.
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Completely 'out there'. Wow.
 
Larry1803@ Gmail.com said:
ForThose of you who are familiar with the Montauk project and the stories of time travel surrounding it,some say it's a conspiracy some believe it.

I actually been there (not time traveling) in the early 1970's

I grew up in a town on long island called ronkonkoma

My father serviced bowling alley equipment and one of his co workers used to repair the bowling equipment at the bowling alley at camp hero out at Montauk.

One day my father said the regular guy that was supposed to go to camp hero, couldn't make it, so they ask my father to go and he took me with him.

We go to camp hero, as we pulled in to this very small installation, I was amazed to see this gigantic radar antenna rotating on top of a building.

We go to this little bowling alley it only had 4 lanes ,and my dad started repairing the pinsetters.

They had someone stay with us the whole time we were there and the security guy that was watching us did not look like someone in the military, he had a beard and mustache and kinda long hair .

I was getting bored waiting for my dad to finish so I thought I would go outside, The security guy stopped me and told me I had to stay in the bowling alley.

Then I was getting hungry and ask my dad how much longer,the security guy
heard me and ask if my dad and i want to go to the mess hall,we did.

I saw people walking around and none of them looked military to me except one guy who had on fatigues.

Looking back, I can say something was very odd about the place,I don't know what, but for a military base they didn't act too military

True story
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Great stuff, thanks for that.
Camp Hero was closed down in 1981, so its closure may have been on the cards for a long time. It's possible they were winding down operations even at the time you visited, so maybe a lot of the staff you saw were a mix of scientists and civilian contractors, brought in to keep the base running?
 
Kingsize Wombat said:
Thanks! That's interesting.

I can never quite bring myself to believe the more outlandish stories out there - but there seems to be a lot of weirdness associated with that base.
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Most here understand the entire Montauk Experiment is a fictional story that somehow morphed into a conspiracy theory.

There was some experimental work done on radar technology in the 1950s. The knowledge gained there (and other radar research stations) is now widely used for both military and civil aviation.

The story was originally based on the equally fictional Philadelphia Experiment, which itself was created in the imagination of Charles Berlitz (who also invented the Bermuda Triangle and Roswell stories). All three started out as fictional stories based on mundane non-events weaved into bizzare sci-fi tales.
 
This is airing Sunday night in the UK on History...


An investigative special chronicling former CIA operative Barry Eisler, award-winning journalist Steve Volk, and filmmaker Chris Garetano's exploration into the mythologies, conspiracies and accusations that surround an abandoned military base known as Camp Hero in Montauk, Long Island. The government claims that this site is a shuttered military base that once protected Americans, but for decades endless rumors maintain that within the camp's concrete fortresses lie the remains of a deep government conspiracy. After WWII it is known that the United States government engaged in a pattern of covert behavior that saw it experiment on its own citizens in such programs as the Tuskegee Experiments, and MK Ultra. Could Montauk's Camp Hero--with its rumors of mind control experiments, acid tests, child abduction, and time travel--be another top secret example? And how deep did those experiments go?
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Cynical Apathist said:
The story was originally based on the equally fictional Philadelphia Experiment, which itself was created in the imagination of Charles Berlitz (who also invented the Bermuda Triangle and Roswell stories). All three started out as fictional stories based on mundane non-events weaved into bizzare sci-fi tales.
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Just a footnote re: the Philadelphia Experiment, is there any evidence Berlitz (and co-author Moore) invented it? I read their book this summer. I was highly surprised that the authors gave such credence to the central source (Allende/Allen) who I think most would regard as unreliable. But wikipedia (if it's to be trusted) confirms that Allende/Allen existed, as did his writings.

Wikipedia also says Berlitz and Moore (publishing in 1979) treated fictional accounts (from a 1978 novel) as real in their book. Treating someone else's fiction as fact is shoddy, but I don't think that's the same as inventing the Philadelphia Experiment story.

I'm happy to be shown wrong, though I'd be disappointed if it were all an invention by Berlitz and Moore - the meta-story (Allende/Allen confabulates (?) a lot of things, some people dismiss it as crackpottery, some investigate thoroughly) is fascinatingly Fortean.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Philadelphia_Experiment
 
Berlitz and Moore were full of shit, but they didn't invent any of those things. The Roswell story began with a newspaper article in 1947, for example.
 
Moth_in_relay said:
Just a footnote re: the Philadelphia Experiment, is there any evidence Berlitz (and co-author Moore) invented it? ...
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Personally, I've never put much stock in the Philadelphia Experiment mythos.

Berlitz and Moore certainly didn't invent it, because allusions to weirdness involving the USS Eldridge at the Philadelphia Naval Yard date back to the letters Allen / Allende sent Jessup in the 1950's.

My take on it is that Berlitz and Moore elaborated the already extant storyline (such as it was ... ) into a wildly speculative / semi-fictional tale and infused it into the Fortean / UFO / conspiracy milieu of the 1970's.
 
Moth_in_relay said:
Just a footnote re: the Philadelphia Experiment, is there any evidence Berlitz (and co-author Moore) invented it? I read their book this summer. I was highly surprised that the authors gave such credence to the central source (Allende/Allen) who I think most would regard as unreliable. But wikipedia (if it's to be trusted) confirms that Allende/Allen existed, as did his writings.

Wikipedia also says Berlitz and Moore (publishing in 1979) treated fictional accounts (from a 1978 novel) as real in their book. Treating someone else's fiction as fact is shoddy, but I don't think that's the same as inventing the Philadelphia Experiment story.

I'm happy to be shown wrong, though I'd be disappointed if it were all an invention by Berlitz and Moore - the meta-story (Allende/Allen confabulates (?) a lot of things, some people dismiss it as crackpottery, some investigate thoroughly) is fascinatingly Fortean....
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Read my original post. "All three started out as fictional stories based on mundane non-events weaved into bizzare sci-fi tales."

Some sources cite the USS Eldridge logbooks showing the Eldridge was not even in Philadelphia at the time. Logbooks can be faked, but it does throw suspicion upon the entire tale. Also, the Eldridge continued in service until the end of the war, eventually being sold to the Greek navy where it continued service for another couple decades until final decommissioning and scrapping without any odd or supernatural experience. Quite an extended life for a ship with a supposed tragic past.

Authors make their living by selling books. Make the story Fortean and you sell more books. Tell the mundane truth and the books never sell. Hence the tendency to embellish facts.
 
That was worth watching Vardoger. Thanks. I personally think he blamed the wrong culprit for the alleged failure of the socialist utopia. It was artificial intelligence controlling research that was destroying that society.
 
In that video, there was no explanation of how the world population got down to 500 million.
 
AL BIELEK - COMPLETE VIDEO AUTOBIOGRAPHY


Al Bielek - The Alternative Future Time Lines & Time Travel

This is a special additional archive footage to "AL BIELEK - THE COMPLETE VIDEO AUTOBIOGRAPHY" never before seen. Recorded in Denver, CO, 20th April, 2000 A.D.

 
I think the solicitor who represents someone I've recently taken to court is a time traveller. He sent me a letter which arrived a couple of days before Christmas, but it's dated the 3rd January 2018. I'm going to phone him tomorrow and ask if he knows the winning lottery numbers.
 
TheLeeds said:
I think the solicitor who represents someone I've recently taken to court is a time traveller. He sent me a letter which arrived a couple of days before Christmas, but it's dated the 3rd January 2018. I'm going to phone him tomorrow and ask if he knows the winning lottery numbers.
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Remember to ask him how he managed to send the letter back in time.
 
Make a point to keep the envelope (for the postmark) or otherwise document the actual receipt date, in case the difference - not just two days, but two years - makes some difference legally or procedurally.
 
EnolaGaia said:
Make a point to keep the envelope (for the postmark) or otherwise document the actual receipt date, in case the difference - not just two days, but two years - makes some difference legally or procedurally.
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2 years?
 
lawyers love playing with the timeline, especially during the christmas/new year period, however they would typically work it the other way, date it the 18th december, send it the 21st, give you 2 weeks to respond ... let the holiday volume of mail do the rest
 
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