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The up coming Neoconspiracy to steal the Mid Term elections

Did Bush missuse electronic voting to steal his last win ?

  • Nope it was all above board

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  • Yes he sure did steal it

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Another Diebold Source Code Leak
By Avi Rubin, Johns Hopkins University
October 22, 2006
This article was posted on Avi Rubin's Blog. It is reposted here with permission of the author.



This week, three disks containing Diebold source code, that appear to have come from Wyle Labs and Ciber Inc, the independent testing authorities that certify voting machines for federal qualificaiton, were delivered anonymously to a former Maryland state delegate. The story was covered this morning in the Washington Post and the Baltimore Sun. I was asked by a reporter to inspect the disks to verify their contents, and I enlisted Adam Stubblefield and my Ph.D. student Sam Small, and together we examined them.

The disks contained source code for the BallotStation software, which is the software on the voting machine, and what was labeled as GEMS, which is the back end tabulation system. The GEMS disks were password protected, and while I'm certain we could have cracked them, we chose not to. The BallotStation source code was not protected at all. It was the 2004 version, which is newer than the source code we analyzed in 2003, and appears to be slightly later than the version analyzed by the Princeton team. I would love the opportunity to perform a similar analysis on this code, but yesterday, we were only given the opportunity to inspect to the code to determine whether it was genuine. As a condition to inspecting the disks, we agreed not to make copies or to perform any other activity with the software. An analysis of this source code would answer many questions that I've been asked about whether Diebold fixed the problems we encountered in our previous analysis. Of course, I don't believe that all of the problems we found back then are even fixable, but some of them are.

I've been getting calls all day asking exactly what the significance is of the new software leak. I'm not really sure. If the software leaked out of Diebold, then they obviously have not learned any lessons about securing their proprietary information. If, as I suspect (due to the labels on the disks), the software leaked out of the testing labs, then that is a serious problem that has to be addressed. Don't get me wrong - I think that voting system software should be available to the public, but that is a different issue from whether or not testing labs are competent at protecting things that they are trusted with and that they believe they are supposed to protect

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This software leak brings once more into question the security of electronic voting machines.
With no audit trail available and security breached, will this once again open the door to the Bush Neocons to steal the Mid Terms and keep control over both houses ?



This is not the first time that Diebold source code has been leaked. In early 2003, Diebold critic Bev Harris uncovered similar source code while conducting research using Google Inc.'s search engine.

Soon after, researchers at Johns Hopkins University and Rice University published a damning critique of Diebold's products, based on an analysis of the software.

They found, for example, that it would be easy to program a counterfeit voting card to work with the machines and then use it to cast multiple votes inside the voting booth.

Diebold says it has since introduced security enhancements to its products, but the fact that the company's sensitive source code has again leaked out is not a good sign, according to Avi Rubin, a computer science professor with Johns Hopkins and one of the authors of the 2003 report.

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Conspiracy leaked a few days before it happens ?????


edited by TheQuixote: fixed links
 
Poll?

Did the poll close after only one vote?

I'm not being given a voting option.

Talk about stealing elections! <g>
 
The day the paper trail disappeared is the day the significance of our votes ended.
 
Attention mods! Some URLs need clipping before this page veers off to one side... ;)
 
We are dealing with crooks and liars, they are professional criminals, theft is what they do for a living. The terms "diebolding" and "swiftboating" have become part of the common english vocabulary.

The Bushites are fully capable of stealing this election, using these extremely insecure and insider hackable voting systems. To what extent they will steal the election is the only question.

Diebold - no paper trail, easily hacked..... who do you WANT to win? and Rove's answered that..... I think Rove is counting on another wussy lawyerly roll-over..... and if we let that happen we deserve what we get.....

Perhaps they intend to steal the election with rigged electronic voting equipment, and then start rounding up and imprisoning or murdering enough Dems to cow the rest into submission.

What are they planning? What do they know that we don't know? Why are these men smiling?

You ask what they have up their sleeves? We've fallen asleep at the wheel again-- VOTING FRAUD, DIEBOLD, VOTING FRAUD, DIEBOLD, VOTING FRAUD-- did your vote get counted last time? I know mine didn't, and neither did my neighbor's, my friends, or all the people I poll-watched for in Cincinnati-- these guys are SMUG AND SMILING for a very good reason-- they do not even need to campaign....

http://newsbusters.org/node/8383
 
I'm in a funny position. I believe voting is incredibly important but think it's almost pointless the way we actually vote. To say I'm suspicious about electronic voting is putting it mildly but the reality is that 'paper ballots' and the paper trail itself, which is important in rigging cases, also makes a mockery of anonymous voting.

There are some days when there isn't enough tin foil in the world.

sigh
 
"We don't know what happens inside these machines. We as citizens are not allowed to know," said Edward Felten, a professor of computer science and public affairs at Princeton University.
New Technology, New Problems
Recently, Felten and his Princeton colleagues showed just how easy it was to tamper with the new technology.
They gave a voting machine a virus and flipped the outcome of a mock election.
Fifteen electronic voting states don't require paper receipts, which is the physical proof necessary for a recount.

http://abcnews.go.com/GMA/story?id=2610298

wait for it, wait for it

Land slide republican victory :roll:



I voted early October 23, 2006 at my Precinct 74 that is in Dallas, but tied to Collin County. This was not the first time I voted on a computer so my experience can not be blamed on insecurity of what I was doing.

I am a independent voter who has never voted for a party, but for the individuals who run for office.

The beginning of the ballot was concerning a bond issue for Dallas with many items that filled the screen. I voted all those and moved on to the votes for individual candidates for state office.

I DID NOT VOTE FOR ANY REPUBLICANS. I was very careful about my choices and watched as each X was placed in the correct box.

When the candidates for judicial places came up I had a big problem with the machine. If I had the screen before my eyes I could identify exactly who it was I was choosing. the trauma I experienced has over ridden who I was voting for in my memory. There were three names that offered me the choice of Rep and Lib. Three times in succession I choose Lib, but the machine gave my vote to the Rep !!!!!!!.

This first tine if happened, the thing that popped out of my mouth so the election officials could hear me was, “This machine is not recording my vote as I chose it.” I made the correction on the first error. The second time I chose Lib for the next candidate and the machine gave my vote to the Republican. I continued to speak up. Then when it happened a third time and I was noisy, a woman came over and stood beside me.

She watched I as I finished my choosing. I voted for the State Board of Education Representative and then the the slate offered only Republicans for the rest of the offices. I did not vote for any of them telling the woman when I did not want a candidate with no opposition I did not give them my vote.

As the summary appeared for me to check it, Perry, Dewhurst and Combs all had an X WHICH I AM SURE I DID NOT GIVE TO THEM. As the woman watched, I ran the summary twice to be sure that it was correct as I intended it to be voted before removing the card from the machine.

I was so shaken I came home to call the Collin County Election Bureau to verbally report this experience. I had seen the demonstration by the Princeton Professor on the news who proved that a virus could be inserted into a Diebold machine and votes scrambled to suit an overriding software program. The woman I talk to in McKinney, Texas was not the Director of the Collin County Election Office I later learned, but she suggested I write to the three elected people who represent me at the federal level who voted to use machines in Texas that do not offer a paper trail to be checked if a voter feels his/her votes have been compromised by electronic tinkering.

http://hammeroftruth.com/2006/10/25/mes ... old-voter/

It'l be alright on the night the Neocons tell us !
 
techy, if the democrats win this election would you be prepared to concede that there is no conspiracy regarding these machines and election results in general in the US?
 
techy, if the democrats win this election would you be prepared to concede that there is no conspiracy regarding these machines and election results in general in the US?

sure would Ted

I would add tho that I think any voting system where recounts are impossible should be scrapped due to it being to easy to rig remotely so to speak.

But yes if the Liberals win I will hold my hand up and say the machines must not have been rigged this time.
 
Why is Karl Rove so visibly happy, and telling everyone that Republicans will hold on to their majority in both houses? He knows the fix is in, that's why.

We are as asleep in this country as the Germans were when the Nazis took over! And many of the things I've seen here recently are similar to what happened in Germany back then in the 1930s.

The exit polls are always accurate, yet since 2000, the exit polls have shown one result, and the machines have shown the results switched! This happened with Gore in Florida in 2000; with Max Clelland in Georgia in 2002; in Ohio, and 18 other States in the last Presidential race, and it will happen again in November. The "official" line will be that exit polls are "useless" (even though they are considered to be the "gold standard" by election monitors in foreign countries, for declaring whether election "results" are accurate), and that the "sampling" was incorrect. You will be told that Republican strategy (read Karl Rove) pulled the rabbit out of the hat at the last minute with successful flooding of the airwaves with negative ads. Don't believe it!

Polls show that 57% of Americans are "fed-up" with the Republicans. And more than 50% say they intend to vote Democrat. Such bad polling figures haven't been seen since 1994 when people felt the same way about the Democrats and Newt Gingrich and the Republicans won control of both houses of Congress. When figures like that occur, people are ready for a change, and the only change is to vote against the current majority party.

Many Republican Senators and Representatives are at 43% or less in the polls in the last few days. It is a fact of truthful and accurate polling that any candidate in a two candidate race who is an incumbent, but only has 43% or less, days before the election, will lose. Watch "miraculous" turnarounds happen and Republicans win 52%-48% or 50-49%, or 51-49% when they were behind in the polls on election eve. Also watch the exit polls show Democrats sweeping the board, but the "results" showing the opposite!

http://www.opednews.com/articles/opedne ... ve_so_.htm

as far as I can tell there should be a total collapse for the Republicans according to poll data.

we will see soon
 
As an aside, though, due to the extreme and precise gerrymandering of House of Representative districts it's almost impossible for a true "total collapse", on the scale of historical ones (eg in 1920 the Republicans picked up 62 house seats) to occur today.

Even when national 'generic ballot' polls show standard Democratic house candidate X ahead 52%-35% of standard Republican candidate Y, all but ~10% of house races are essentially pre-rigged, if you will, because 90% of the districts have been drawn so that one party or the other has an overwhelming advantage. :(
 
ted_bloody_maul said:
techy, if the democrats win this election would you be prepared to concede that there is no conspiracy regarding these machines and election results in general in the US?

I personally wouldn't. There's rigging and there's rigging. A total scam as opposed to the political equivalent of a butcher keeping his thumb on the scales are two different things.
 
techybloke666 said:
sure would Ted

I would add tho that I think any voting system where recounts are impossible should be scrapped due to it being to easy to rig remotely so to speak.

But yes if the Liberals win I will hold my hand up and say the machines must not have been rigged this time.

do you mean the Democrats? the Liberals haven't a chance.

jefflovestone said:
I personally wouldn't. There's rigging and there's rigging. A total scam as opposed to the political equivalent of a butcher keeping his thumb on the scales are two different things.

i'd agree that the democrats winning wouldn't neccessarily disprove some form of rigging but i'd imagine that it would be at the margins. does anyone know if this would apply to the precinct in dallas mentioned earlier?

i kind of suspect now that for the forseeable future that many Democrats and critics of the Republicans will use this as an excuse for any defeat and in effect turn it into a winning hand. that isn't to say that they're wrong but i think the claim will be made regardless of the facts.
 
U.S. Military Blocks Troops From Visiting Alternative News Websites

Wonkette | October 27 2006

We realize that when it comes to freedom of the press, the USA has fallen to Number 53 in the world — tied with our fascist homies in Croatia and the islanders of the Kingdom of Tonga! — but do we have to make is so damned obvious?

Another Marine stationed in Iraq has sent us a screenshot of what happens when you need some hot news on Macaca and Foley:forbidden, this page (http://www.wonkette.com) is categorized as (Personal Pages) ALL SITES YOU VISIT ARE LOGGED AND FILED.Nice little threat at the end, too. Asswipes.
Notice the other browser tabs. Two actual “personal pages” that rah-rah for Bush (What’s her name, the wannabe Coulter, and Hugh Hewitt) show up just fine, as our Marine Operative confirms. But “Talking Points Memo,” which is apparently one of the “left leaning” sites one hears so much about these days, is prohibited.

Writes the Corporal: “I think that this kind of censoring is a big deal. I can understand blocking porn, music and movies, and blatantly illegal sites, but blocking sites that some higher up just doesn’t agree with is disgusting. They are blocking a huge portion of voters from information that will help them determine which side to vote for. Because of this, the only news we get is from the big corporations or conservative based sites.”

http://prisonplanet.com/articles/Octobe ... Troops.htm

If the machines let them down they can always try things like this too
 
this thread seems to have gone a little quiet 8)

latest results:

Democrats win House
7:46 ET, Wed 8 Nov 2006
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By John Whitesides, Political Correspondent

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - Democrats swept Republicans from power in the House of Representatives and moved to the brink of capturing the Senate, where their final victory could be delayed by a possible recount in Virginia.

Democrats rolled up gains of about 30 seats in the House in Tuesday's elections, riding to a huge victory on a wave of public discontent with the Iraq war, corruption and Republican President George W. Bush's leadership.

In a setback to Bush and Republicans, Democrats picked up four of the six Senate seats they needed for a majority and led in races for the other two, in Montana and Virginia, threatening to take control of both chambers of Congress for the first time in 12 years.

A potential recount and possible legal challenges in Virginia could delay the final result, dredging up memories of the 2000 presidential election recount that lasted five weeks.

Virginia Democrat James Webb had an 8,000-vote advantage over Republican Sen. George Allen out of more than 2 million cast. A recount could stretch into December, leaving Senate control uncertain.

In Montana, Democrat Jon Tester also held a narrow lead on Republican Sen. Conrad Burns, but a final result was not expected until later on Wednesday.

The narrow governing majorities in Congress, especially the Senate, were almost certain to spawn more partisan gridlock and political warfare during Bush's final two years in the White House.

Bush scheduled a news conference for 1 p.m. EST (1800 GMT) to discuss the results.

Democratic control of the House will make outspoken liberal Rep. Nancy Pelosi the first female speaker and could slam the brakes on much of Bush's agenda and increase pressure for a change of course in Iraq.

"Tonight is a great victory for the American people," Pelosi told a Democratic rally on Capitol Hill. "Today the American people voted for change, and they voted for Democrats to take our country in a new direction."

All 435 House seats, 33 of the 100 Senate seats and 36 of the 50 governorships were at stake. Democrats beat Republican Sen. Rick Santorum, the third-ranking Republican in the Senate and one of the Democrats' biggest targets this year.

Connecticut Sen. Joseph Lieberman, running as an independent, beat Democratic anti-war challenger Ned Lamont, who had defeated the former vice presidential nominee in the Democratic primary.

Democratic Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton sailed to an easy re-election win in New York, setting up a likely 2008 presidential run.

"This is a wake-up call to the Republican Party," said Republican Sen. John McCain of Arizona on CNN.

DEMOCRATIC GOVERNORS WIN BIG

Democrats also scored big wins in governors' races, taking six seats from Republicans and winning a national majority that could give them an edge in the 2008 presidential election. California Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger rolled to easy re-election.

In ballot initiativs on social issues, voters in seven states rejected same sex-marriage, providing one of the few bright spots for conservative Republicans in otherwise disappointing elections.

The Democratic sweep in the House reached deep into Republican bastions like Indiana, where three incumbents lost, and Kansas, where incumbent Rep. Jim Ryun was defeated.

"We're finally beginning to become a national party again after 12 years," said Democratic Party chief Howard Dean, who has worked to build up party operations in all 50 states.

The Democratic victory in the mid-term elections gives the party control of House legislative committees that could investigate the Bush administration's most controversial decisions on foreign, military and energy policy.

Democrats have promised votes on much of their agenda within the first 100 hours of taking House power, including new ethics rules, a rise in the minimum wage, reduced subsidies to the oil industry and improvements in border and port security.

Early exit polls showed voters disapproved of the war in Iraq by a large margin, but voters said corruption and ethics were more important to their vote, CNN said.

Democrats hammered Republicans for spawning a "culture of corruption" in Washington, with four Republican House members resigning this year under an ethics cloud.

The party was hit by allegations about influence peddling, links to convicted lobbyists and a Capitol Hill sex scandal involving Republican Rep. Mark Foley's lewd messages to teenage male congressional assistants.

The campaign-trail debate was dominated by Iraq, and Bush defended his handling of the war to the end despite job approval ratings mired in the mid-30s. He questioned what Democrats would do differently and predicted Republicans would retain control of Congress.

History was with the Democrats -- the party holding the White House traditionally loses seats in a president's sixth year.

http://uselections.uk.reuters.com/top/n ... 21915.html

blimey just imagine what the results would have been if they hadn't been fixed ;)

oh hang on ...


FBI probes dirty tricks claims amid voting machine problems in U.S. election

Deborah Hastings, The Associated Press
Published: Tuesday, November 07, 2006

While new voting machines confounded some midterm election poll workers, reports of dirty tricks and voter intimidation surfaced across the United States on Tuesday, prompting federal investigations in at least two states.

In Virginia, election officials contacted the FBI over complaints of voter intimidation in the hard-fought race between Republican Senator. George Allen and Democrat Jim Webb. Jean Jensen, secretary of the Board of Elections, said her office received reports of phone calls apparently encouraging voters to stay home on Election Day. Other calls directed voters to the wrong polling place.

In Indiana, the FBI was investigating allegations that a Democratic volunteer at a Monroe County polling site was found with unprocessed absentee ballots.

Other states reported voter intimidation problems and dirty tricks.

In Arizona, three men, one of them armed, stopped Hispanic voters and questioned them outside a Tucson polling place, according to voting monitors for the Mexican American Legal Defense and Educational Fund, which photographed the incidents and reported them to the FBI.

In Maryland, sample ballots suggesting Republican Gov. Robert Ehrlich and Senate candidate Michael Steele were Democrats were handed out by people bused in from out of state. Democrats outnumber Republicans in Maryland by nearly 2-1.

An Ehrlich spokeswoman said the fliers were meant to show the candidates had the support of some state Democrats. They were paid for by the campaigns of Ehrlich, Steel and the Republican party.

More than 80 per cent of the voters were expected to cast some type of electronic ballot Tuesday, which was the deadline for major reforms mandated by the federal Help America Vote Act, passed by Congress to prevent a rerun of the 2000 election debacle.

In Denver, up to 300 people stood outside some polling sites. One was Democratic gubernatorial candidate Bill Ritter, who waited an hour and 40 minutes.

“It’s actually heartening,” he said. It means people “understand the process is important enough to be patient and wait in line.” Nonetheless, Democratic party officials asked a judge to extend poll hours because of the delays.

A long ballot and new machines caused the disruptions, according to Colorado secretary of state spokeswoman Lisa Doran. “Despite the training, some of the election judges are intimidated by the machines,” she said.

Computer glitches and poll workers’ unfamiliarity with the new equipment were also blamed for long lines in such states as Tennessee, South Carolina and Illinois.

In North Carolina, about 100 voters were left waiting at a church because the poll worker who had the key showed up nearly an hour late. In Pennsylvania, a computer programming error forced some to cast paper ballots. In Indiana, 175 precincts also resorted to paper. Counties in those states also extended poll hours to make up for delays.

As of midday, none of the stumbles seemed to signal a voting disaster, said poll watchers.

“Lots of fender-benders, but no major tie-ups,” said Doug Chapin, director of electionline.org, a nonpartisan group that tracks election problems. “It’s been a steady drumbeat, but nothing that rises to the level of `This could compromise the results.”’

Nevertheless, some of the mishaps raised the frustration level.

In Cleveland, where some voters in 2004 waited in 14-hour lines, problems with ballot-reading machines caused big delays.

Across the country, Democrats accused Republicans of sponsoring automated “robo-calls” that have infuriated voters. The recorded calls, which reached a fever pitch in the days leading up to the election, automatically dial and re-redial, promoting or trashing a candidate.

Republicans have denied responsibility. Some voters have reported being awakened in the middle of the night by such calls, and said that after they hung up, the phone rang again. Federal rules bar election phone solicitations after 9 p.m.

In some states, the effort to improve the integrity of the election system got off to a shaky start. Long lines formed, prompting appeals to judges to keep the polls open longer.

Kevin Caffrey, a 43-year-old school teacher from Denver and a registered Republican, was furious after he was forced to stand in line for more than an hour.

“Every individual who put me in line, I’m voting against them. I’ve been waiting in line like an animal. This is a nightmare,” he said.
© The Associated Press 2006

http://www.canada.com/topics/news/world ... b7&k=56361
 
the concept of the neocons - who's actually left in this motley crew? fukuyama has distanced himself in recent times and richard perle certainly didn't help fix the election result when he criticised bush earlier this week. given his involvement in the neocon PNAC conspiracy this all seems rather confusing.
 
I hope everyone's faith in democracy is now restored.
 
ted_bloody_maul said:
the concept of the neocons - who's actually left in this motley crew? fukuyama has distanced himself in recent times and richard perle certainly didn't help fix the election result when he criticised bush earlier this week. given his involvement in the neocon PNAC conspiracy this all seems rather confusing.

It looks like it's come a cropper IMHO. Discredited largely by the actions of it's proponents too - one of those things that probably sounded good on paper but doesn't stand up to the realities. One wonders now if GWB will start to lose those will similar views, especially if the Iraq situation gets unravelled. People may want to distance themselves from him. Still, depends on whether GWB can pull things back into some semblance of order in the next few years.
 
Waiting for the other shoe to drop. ie: the republicans using the fact that the voting machines weren't working properly in their favor (it works both ways), and taking this all to a recount whereby we start to see numbers changing all of a sudden.

Christ, the guy got in twice!!! Anything could happen.
 
I don't get it--why do you people have so much trouble with such a simple thing? Do we need to send observers down there? ;)
 
gncxx said:
I hope everyone's faith in democracy is now restored.
It will be when Blair is similarly humiliated by the GBP... :twisted:
 
rynner said:
gncxx said:
I hope everyone's faith in democracy is now restored.
It will be when Blair is similarly humiliated by the GBP... :twisted:

except they won't get the chance as he's standing down. unless the public votes for dave 'i talk to the trees' cameron then they'll have no choice but to vote for whoever the labour leader is.

probably gordon brown. ;)
 
Both Blair and GWB have been hoisted up on the petard of their own policies. Failure is probably the worst sort of humiliation. Blair is on his way out simply because he now lacks support - we'll have to see if GWB can claw back any of his power and influence in the next few years. Seeing as US foreign policy was a major sticking point, with Rumsfeld at the lead, it may always be possible for things to change in GWB's favour over the next few years if he uses a new broom to sweep away past mistakes. Blair is ostensibly finished - GWB may possibly recover.
 
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