sherbetbizarre
Special Branch
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Yes, and in them she admits to faking stuff!Why would Janet fake things? Would this terrified little girl really want any more attention? Have you seen Janet in interviews lately?
Yes, and in them she admits to faking stuff!Why would Janet fake things? Would this terrified little girl really want any more attention? Have you seen Janet in interviews lately?
MH, you are being questioned, over on FF.What is it with these posters? They keep saying that they need 'concrete evidence',Can they actually show one single piece of 'concrete' evidence, over any paranormal activity since records began?
What they are asking for, is the impossible.Unless, of course, GLP were to come clean over matters.That is highly unlikely to happen.Firstly, because he has signed the Official Secrets Act. Secondly, because to alter his stance now would leave him open to ridicle. It would label him as a Fraud.He is unlikely to want that, is he?
So what we are left with is circumstantial evidence. And, of course, my own experience of the events. My experience is second to none.Except that I wasn't taking notes at the time. Nor did I keep a diary. Thats about the only thing that GLPs book is useful for.
A timeline over events is indeed useful.
Those posters have absolutely no idea of what I went through.
They speak out of ignorance, of course, and their general responses seem to be the result of accepting the Status Quo, for nearly 40 years now.
That is not my fault.
If I were to relate my experience of being hynotised by John Beloff in 1980, over these matters would that make a difference?
These posters seem to think that everything is a situation of black and white.
Life is more complex than that.
There is nothing much more complex than the events of the Enfield case.
If I were to tell of how that hypnotism only served me for approx 5 years, would that make a difference?
Or how I was re-hypotised, forcibly and this time with the use of drugs and then was labotomized via electric shock treatment?
Do you think that this would make a difference?
I doubt it. They would then want proof of this.
There is no doubt in my mind, that if Maurice Grosse had still been alive then he would have wanted to speak to me. That he would seek to see me and speak to me in person.
He would not have run away, like Guy Playfair has.
This is the crux, WHY the need to discredit a child. What danger did she pose or data did she possessed? If this could be answered clearly and concisely you would have people paying attention.
Controlled opposition to what? Again what was so important.
Some more from my conversation with him that he's given me permission to post. There is some juicy stuff here:
And then here is a comment he just posted on the Polterwotsit board.
I will only post things he says on here if he provides new information, like he has. There will be no more "I can't tell you". I understand how that might have rubbed people the wrong way.
For those posters accusing me of being SC, all I can say is that our writing styles are visibly different (hint: one of us is American and the other is British), and the moderators have the ability to check our IP addresses.
Not that difficult to hide your IP - people use proxies.
Didn't realize SC had been a Mental Health consumer - it can be a harrowing experience and with that I'm out of this thread.
The supercharged agenda, the proximity in time ... it's enough to convince the casual observer you're the same desperado.
Didn't realize SC had been a Mental Health consumer - it can be a harrowing experience and with that I'm out of this thread.
I'm not saying that to belittle anyone but it does complicate things.
Truth be, the only significant difference is I didn't throw him onto ignore when I should have.we are nothing alike at all.
Was janet really a terrified little girl? i seem to remember she was just the opposite.NOW she seems a terrified and broken women, but i suppose thats what messing with secret services does to you
Well said. Perhaps if she'd had a better advocate when she was young, rather than all the exploitative twattery she got, she might have had a better chance.
"Intelligence has had an arm in major publishing for decades"
They didn't do too well with 'Spycatcher' or the Zicon affair did they.
Ok, thanks, and apologies for the rather crap grammar in that post
You can tell the age of the poster by their posts Ok, how old am I ?
43?You can tell the age of the poster by their posts Ok, how old am I ?
I was pulling your leg dearGoing through your posts it's clear that you're from somewhere in the UK (forgive me if you're Irish or Scottish or something since I have difficulty telling the difference).
Most of your posts are very short so it's not easy to get a good read on you. I'd say you are on the younger side. If you wrote a couple long posts, it would be much easier to tell.
The point being, I'm not a psychic, but you can tell the difference between a British poster that is 50+ and a younger American poster. I don't think there is anything controversial about that.
I guess i am about your age
I'm 54.I guess i am about your age
This makes no sense when his book said the events were genuine poltergeist activity, and he still appears on TV and in print - to this day - saying it was real!Playfair was a government plant/handler placed there to monitor the situation under the guise of writing a book. In order to discredit the poltergeist activity in the media, he created the circumstances that led to Janet being accused of faking events.
Anybody doing anything more productive than sneering and placing ad hominem attacks would be welcome in this thread.
I'd argue certain members of this board have a vendetta again SC, for IMO very suspicious reasons.
don't you wonder how it's possible all this seemingly genuine paranormal activity went on and THEN accusations of fakery appeared later on? How can it be real and fake? Why would Janet fake things?
Question: And what could they (the suspicious reasons) possibly be?
Oh yeah, but apart from that...?
apologies...been away on 'digital detox' and notice that other posters have previously covered the same lines of enquiry
Lol, yes, the terrifying Fortean Secret Police: our chief weapons are inquisitiveness and politeness *shudder*
I think 'scientists' tend to cover specific areas of expertise. Would a metallurgist have much clout confirming/denying a poltergeist? I guess you mean people working in fields related to the human experience. Yes their default position is likely to be one of scepticism as all experimental data to date is at best inconclusive regarding anything paranormal.It's not about only discrediting Janet, she is just a pawn. It's about discrediting paranormal activity to the public. Why this is done is up for debate, but most believers on this board have long realized how odd it is that paranormal activity is so strictly denied by the scientific and academic communities. Now we are beginning to open up a can of worms showing that this is on purpose.
Well I'm not sure why MI6 specifically gets name checked. Is this poltergeist activity a national security risk ala Helen Duncan? Was this entity spilling the beans on something classified? Surely MI6 is military in nature. Don't you mean MI5 or police? Just how much school did the poor children miss when subject to this alleged programming. Did no one notice?Controlled opposition to what really happened. Namely, genuine poltergeist activity witnessed by numerous people. Playfair was a government plant/handler placed there to monitor the situation under the guise of writing a book. In order to discredit the poltergeist activity in the media, he created the circumstances that led to Janet being accused of faking events. If you think the idea of a MI6 agent being present in an event like this is unusual, it isn't. More people work in intelligence or close to intelligence than you can imagine.
As for why Janet would say she faked some things, read SC comments above that I just posted. These people were broken and forced to forget. If you don't believe the government has the ability to do this, just look up MK Ultra.