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This thread has been stripped of the substantial number of postings that addressed "politics" and other matters not directly related to parties leveraging the current wave of George Floyd related protests and riots to their own ends. This housekeeping exercise was the only (I repeat - only ... ) acceptable way to avoid simply trashing everything that had been posted about the protests / riots and whose interests may be served.
This is something I came across over the past couple of days when reading news media relating to the protests and subsequent civil unrest in Minneapolis-St Paul.
There are reports that alt-right and/or white supremacist people from out of town or out of state have been instigating the damage, looting and arson that was seen after the largely peaceful protests earlier in the week.
From Forbes: https://www.forbes.com/sites/sergei...as-from-out-of-state-mayor-says/#6257f600264d
"“I want to be very, very clear: The people that are doing this are not Minneapolis residents,” Minneapolis Mayor Jacob Frey added. “They are coming in largely from outside of the city, from outside of the region, to prey on everything we have built over the last several decades.”
According to Saint Paul Mayor Melvin Carter, every person arrested in the city last night was from out of state: “We don’t know these folks,” he reiterated.
Department of Public Safety Commissioner John Harrington confirmed evidence of white supremacist groups trying to incite violence; Many posted messages online that encouraged people to go loot in Minneapolis and cause mayhem.
Walz, who also announced that he would fully mobilize the Minnesota national guard for the first time in 164 years, called the unrest “an organized attempt to destabilize civil society with no regard for civil life or property.”
The dynamic has changed over the last couple days, Walz, Carter and Frey said. Protests gradually shifted from being peaceful on Tuesday, but as more people came from outside of the city, they’ve turned increasingly violent in recent days."
From MPR [Minnesota Public Radio] news https://www.mprnews.org/story/2020/...among-those-fomenting-violence-in-twin-cities :
"DeVario Bogenholm, a 23-year-old who’s lived in Minneapolis for most of his life, blames outsiders, who are mostly white, for turning peaceful protests violent Friday night. He turned to Facebook to post a video of him and a friend confronting a group of young, white men who were smashing out storefront windows.
“Who’s destroying these buildings? These white dudes and we’re stopping them,” his friend, Noah Saba, said to the camera, then waved the phone to show footage of a group of white men on bicycles in front of a group of vandalized and burning buildings, “They’re setting these fires.”
Bogenholm said the video doesn’t fully capture the mob, with people of color largely at the back of the crowd and young white men initiating the damage to buildings.
Bogenholm and his friend demanded the men apologize for vandalizing the buildings and making black people look bad and then told them to leave. He said more people in the crowd turned on the men, and they rode off on bicycles.
“They knew they were in the wrong,” Bogenholm said. “And it was making us look bad.”
Hundreds of buildings across the Twin Cities have been damaged in the riots. A native youth cultural center, neighborhood bars and a building full of artist studios are among the structures that have been set on fire.
Minneapolis City Council member Jeremiah Ellison spent Friday night driving around his ward to ensure people stayed safe. He said property destruction at protests, which he doesn’t support, normally is focused on symbols of power like police cars.
“When you see no protest, there’s no mob sweeping through the north side, yet you see these fires popping up the main business corridor, that’s the thing that rang odd to me,” Ellison said. “Burning down small black- and immigrant-owned businesses, that doesn’t seem in lockstep with the tone of the protests.”
There are allegations that one particular vandal 'the umbrella man' is a policeman (unverified) acting as agent provocateur.
https://www.ajc.com/news/police-deny-link-mysterious-umbrella-man-who-broke-windows-during-riot/3j8cSrRBHjvnvX0PRwIYIP/#:~:text=Speculation had social media buzzing Friday after an unidentified man,the man was an impostor.
There are real overtones of the recent Hong Kong protests (to me at least) with what sounds like volunteer or paid agitators taking advantage of the situation to foment something very nasty.
*Please don't let this thread veer off into politics*
This thread has been stripped of the substantial number of postings that addressed "politics" and other matters not directly related to parties leveraging the current wave of George Floyd related protests and riots to their own ends. This housekeeping exercise was the only (I repeat - only ... ) acceptable way to avoid simply trashing everything that had been posted about the protests / riots and whose interests may be served.
- This thread is dedicated to conspiracy aspects of the protest / riot events. That's why it's in the Conspiracy section.
- This thread is NOT about the Floyd killing per se, police brutality in general, gun control in the USA, social inequality, other protests and movements, the history of race relations in America, or racism in general.
- This thread is not an acceptable venue for inquiries about the posted material that's been removed nor discussion of where and / or how discussion of those other subjects may occur.
- This thread will survive only so long as members stick to the stated topic.
This is something I came across over the past couple of days when reading news media relating to the protests and subsequent civil unrest in Minneapolis-St Paul.
There are reports that alt-right and/or white supremacist people from out of town or out of state have been instigating the damage, looting and arson that was seen after the largely peaceful protests earlier in the week.
From Forbes: https://www.forbes.com/sites/sergei...as-from-out-of-state-mayor-says/#6257f600264d
"“I want to be very, very clear: The people that are doing this are not Minneapolis residents,” Minneapolis Mayor Jacob Frey added. “They are coming in largely from outside of the city, from outside of the region, to prey on everything we have built over the last several decades.”
According to Saint Paul Mayor Melvin Carter, every person arrested in the city last night was from out of state: “We don’t know these folks,” he reiterated.
Department of Public Safety Commissioner John Harrington confirmed evidence of white supremacist groups trying to incite violence; Many posted messages online that encouraged people to go loot in Minneapolis and cause mayhem.
Walz, who also announced that he would fully mobilize the Minnesota national guard for the first time in 164 years, called the unrest “an organized attempt to destabilize civil society with no regard for civil life or property.”
The dynamic has changed over the last couple days, Walz, Carter and Frey said. Protests gradually shifted from being peaceful on Tuesday, but as more people came from outside of the city, they’ve turned increasingly violent in recent days."
From MPR [Minnesota Public Radio] news https://www.mprnews.org/story/2020/...among-those-fomenting-violence-in-twin-cities :
"DeVario Bogenholm, a 23-year-old who’s lived in Minneapolis for most of his life, blames outsiders, who are mostly white, for turning peaceful protests violent Friday night. He turned to Facebook to post a video of him and a friend confronting a group of young, white men who were smashing out storefront windows.
“Who’s destroying these buildings? These white dudes and we’re stopping them,” his friend, Noah Saba, said to the camera, then waved the phone to show footage of a group of white men on bicycles in front of a group of vandalized and burning buildings, “They’re setting these fires.”
Bogenholm said the video doesn’t fully capture the mob, with people of color largely at the back of the crowd and young white men initiating the damage to buildings.
Bogenholm and his friend demanded the men apologize for vandalizing the buildings and making black people look bad and then told them to leave. He said more people in the crowd turned on the men, and they rode off on bicycles.
“They knew they were in the wrong,” Bogenholm said. “And it was making us look bad.”
Hundreds of buildings across the Twin Cities have been damaged in the riots. A native youth cultural center, neighborhood bars and a building full of artist studios are among the structures that have been set on fire.
Minneapolis City Council member Jeremiah Ellison spent Friday night driving around his ward to ensure people stayed safe. He said property destruction at protests, which he doesn’t support, normally is focused on symbols of power like police cars.
“When you see no protest, there’s no mob sweeping through the north side, yet you see these fires popping up the main business corridor, that’s the thing that rang odd to me,” Ellison said. “Burning down small black- and immigrant-owned businesses, that doesn’t seem in lockstep with the tone of the protests.”
There are allegations that one particular vandal 'the umbrella man' is a policeman (unverified) acting as agent provocateur.
https://www.ajc.com/news/police-deny-link-mysterious-umbrella-man-who-broke-windows-during-riot/3j8cSrRBHjvnvX0PRwIYIP/#:~:text=Speculation had social media buzzing Friday after an unidentified man,the man was an impostor.
There are real overtones of the recent Hong Kong protests (to me at least) with what sounds like volunteer or paid agitators taking advantage of the situation to foment something very nasty.
*Please don't let this thread veer off into politics*
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