As some of your good selves will be aware, I recently established a Facebook group, intended to effectively be a reincarnation of the 'UFO Research List' (UFORL), which I operated between 1999 - 2004 and attracted many seasoned and well-known ufolologists, resulting in some 10,000, moderated postings, hence a cordial environment, same as we experience here.
A main objective was to have a means of highlighting evidence discussed on the Forteana forums, which was resulting in significant new insights.
The epic 'Kelly-Hopkinsville' thread - which I will be contributing to again, shortly - primarily being an example.
Consequently, within a coup of months and some selective marketing, there are over 700 members, iagain ncorporating many of whom will be familiar to those with an interest in our eclectic subject.
Those who know myself from here, will be aware that whilst I especially enjoy discussions with forum members who might hold a differing view, I have frequently spoken out against the abject nonsense which pervades and yet venerated.
Which brings us back to this thread
Published yesterday on the Facebook 'UFO Research List' and reaching a wide, specific audience, was the following.
Although equally intended to be posted in this thread, that was put on hold, because of ongoing, new developments.
Therefore, this is an updated version and hopefully both self-explanatory and perhaps of interest.
JOHN LEAR AND BOB LAZAR -A CLOSE ENCOUNTER TOO FAR
The association between John Lear and Bob Lazar is well known.
It was by way of an introduction from Lear, that George Knapp became acquainted with Lazar in 1989 and subsequently publicised Lazar's extraordinary claims.
In a letter dated 13 December, 1987, to which a link is provided, Lear detailed his own outlandish claims, which Knapp had also highlighted during 1989 interviews with Lear, for Las Vegas radio station KVEG.
Lear's publication details quite specifically, the proclaimed origins of the archetypal 'grey' aliens, who had been clandestinely co-operating with the U.S. government in an information and technology exchange, until a 1979 dispute in an underground base at Dulce, New Mexico, led to conflict and mass fatalities.
Lazar equally avows a similar 1979 occurrence, this time at S-4, part of the Area 51 complex in Nevada.
Furthermore, in an early video, to which a link is attached, Lazer also provides quite specefic details, concerning origins of the entities at S-4.
Given that Lear's preposterous assertions are no more than a fabrication and with few exceptions, accepted as such, plus pre-date Lazar's alleged experiences at S-4, between December 1988 - 7 April 1989, there should not be the remotest comparison.
This is what both, respectively, have to say;
LEAR - LETTER
"The only known home of these visitors is that of the EBE's andwhich is Zeta Reticuli 1 & 2, a binary star system visible from theSouthern Hemisphere approximately 38 light years away with a spectralclass of G2, identical to our Sun".
LAZAR - VIDEO
"This technology that you have learned about thus far, was brought here by some alien beings from the Zeta Reticuli 1 & 2 star system.
These stars are located in the constallation of Reticulum, which can only be seen from the Southern Hemisphere.
Zeta Reticuli is a binary star system, which means it has 2 stars and is located approximately 30 light years from Earth.
These beings are from Reticilum 4, which is the 4th planet out from Zeta Reticuli 2"
Of all the planets, in all of the galaxies, in all of Universe, Zara's purportedly authentic aliens, coincidentally happen to live in the same neighborhood as Lear's fictitious ETs.
In another connection with the lamentable, hoaxed, MJ-12 documents and John Lear, when asked during a 1989 radio interview if he had a security badge, Lazar replied:
"It's a white badge. It has two -- a light blue and a dark blue -- diagonal stripes through it. On the top it says MAJ-12. The clearance level is called MAJESTIC; I don't know if that was, like I said before I don't know if that means anything as far as the MAJESTIC-12 documents go, or if they just called that clearance that as a nostalgia type of thing. My picture was on it -- what else was on it . . .
Caller:
Did it have both MAJ and MAJESTIC -- both words?
Lazar:
The only place I ever saw MAJESTIC was on Dennis's [Mariano] badge, who was my supervisor, and his badge looks slightly different. I don't know if it was an older kind or what.
(End)
One more revelation to perhaps keep in mind is that Linda Moulton Howe confirms:
"When it got to the Spring of 1990, Bob Lazar and John Lear and Bill Hamilton and others of us, were talking about getting together to do something in that Las Vegas region and Bob invited me on the memorial day weekend and that's when I heard his heartfelt description of growing up.
He was adopted, he was bright, but his family didn't have enough money to send him to college.
He had students who were going to MIT and Harvard, tells me that he never claimed that he got a degree, but that he did go up and sit in on some of the classes that his friends at MIT... and that he had a deep interest in all things electrical.
That eventually, this path of learning something by going to where his friends were at school and then ending up making choices where he could put himself in a position to do electronics work..."
(End)
As we know, there is zero existing documentation of Lazar's claimed academic credentials - a Masters in Physics from MIT and a Masters in Electronics Technology from Cal Tech.
Ad opposed to every morsel of supporting evidence vanishing from existence and thus proving his tales are true, as Lazar perpetually champions, we now have a prosaic explanation for this also.
It is consummately appreciated that belief, faith and trust in Lazar's veracity runs deep and any conclusions must he a personal judgement call.
It is all of the above facts, which are simply being highlighted to enable an accurate evaluation.
So long as we only deal in facts, there should not be an issue and no basis for objections.
This is hardly an enjoyable undertaking and guidance first saught from some friends it would impact.
Only on their advice did it proceed, for despite being most unwelcome, "enough is enough".
www.jceaston.com/John_Lear.pdf