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Star Trek

Hogarth999 said:
Many would disagree, Darmok isn't regarded as a classic Star Trek episode for no good reason.
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Yes, I realise that many people have rated it as one of the best TNG episodes of all time.
But it just made me cringe.
 
After last week's dreadful sing-along-a-silliness and the bizarre cartoon crossover from a week or so before, I was glad to see a genuine return to form for the ST:SNW season finale.
A full-on Gorn conflict scenario provided plenty of spectacular action and the introduction of a legendary ST character was truly inspired.
An almost painful cliffhanger leaves us desperately wanting more!
 
blessmycottonsocks said:
After last week's dreadful sing-along-a-silliness and the bizarre cartoon crossover from a week or so before, I was glad to see a genuine return to form for the ST:SNW season finale.
A full-on Gorn conflict scenario provided plenty of spectacular action and the introduction of a legendary ST character was truly inspired.
An almost painful cliffhanger leaves us desperately wanting more!
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I'm looking forward to watching the finale over the weekend.

I enjoyed the sing-along episode for what it was, but it really wasn't necessary to shoehorn in an episode like this. It doesn't really fit with the Star Trek feel. Taken on its own and viewed as a musical rather than as Star Trek it was actually quite good and an entertaining bit of fun. Christina Chong has a fair set of pipes on her. My wife commented on how you could tell she has a background in singing.

It wasn't quite up to the level of Buffy's Once More with Feeling episode, but that's likely down to this type of episode fitting better into the Buffy universe.

Did any one else spot the Once More with Feeling reference to
BUNNIES
 
Mythopoeika said:
Darmok - remember that episode of TNG?
That was an example of the writers running out of ideas. I found it excruciating and frustrating. Although... some might disagree.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Darmok
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According to the Wiki page ""Darmok" is generally regarded one of the greatest episodes of Star Trek, as well as one of Patrick Stewart's most iconic performances as Captain Picard. In 2016, The Washington Post ranked "Darmok" the second best episode of all Star Trek television."

It's put me in the mood to watch it again.
 
blessmycottonsocks said:
According to the Wiki page ""Darmok" is generally regarded one of the greatest episodes of Star Trek, as well as one of Patrick Stewart's most iconic performances as Captain Picard. In 2016, The Washington Post ranked "Darmok" the second best episode of all Star Trek television."

It's put me in the mood to watch it again.
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I think it appealed because it was an original concept.
I'm too much of a realist to truly love it.
 
I recall a short story (not the name, not the author) where aliens landed and, being inscruitable an' all, requested that humans communicated with them. Not in a Terran languages - they had access to all - but communicate.
Lots of false starts, lots of aggression, but the 'winner' was someone so grief-stricken that their words, their tone, their body-language all transcended the boundary. When words are not enough, emotion - even between human/animal or human/alien might do the trick.
A fan of ST:NG, I never enjoyed 'Darmok' but I saw what it was trying to do. To understand emotions while the expression is embedded into the language. You might not know what someone is fearful of but you can see they fear. How do you communicate more complex ideas without a shared language?
 
One of my grandkids informed me that today Friday September 8th is “ Star Trek Day “ that celebrates the first episode that aired September 8, 1966 called “ The Man Trap “.

The original pilot episode called “ The Cage “ was aired at a later date because NBC thought the show as stupid.

Because of this Jeffery Hunter playing the character “ Pike “ walked out of the project.
 
charliebrown said:
One of my grandkids informed me that today Friday September 8th is “ Star Trek Day “ that celebrates the first episode that aired September 8, 1966 called “ The Man Trap “.

The original pilot episode called “ The Cage “ was aired at a later date because NBC thought the show as stupid.

Because of this Jeffery Hunter playing the character “ Pike “ walked out of the project.
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A great day!

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I've been watching Lower Decks recently, which I'm loving. I'm not sure how, but it works in ways I never though possible.

I've only just finished Season 1, so looking forward to the next 3 seasons.

Does anyone else think that Badgey is actually Bill Cipher from Gravity Falls?
 
Mr. Banooka said:
I've been watching Lower Decks recently, which I'm loving. I'm not sure how, but it works in ways I never though possible.

I've only just finished Season 1, so looking forward to the next 3 seasons.

Does anyone else think that Badgey is actually Bill Cipher from Gravity Falls?
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Lower Decks is superb. Much better than some of the live action material of late. I did love the New World's crossover!
 
Channel surfing today and came across Star Trek, original series episode 73. "Whom Gods destroy" The baddie is a meglomaniac former star fleet officer. For no aparent reason the bad guy had one silver boot and one gold.
This grabbed my attention more than the plot asearlier this week I was looking at some star wars trivia C3PO had a silver leg- Is tmis matched legs a SCi-Fi thing?
 
Nah.
Possibly a continuity error/ future trivia subject.
No doubt "real" fans will flood the internet with "Well, actually ..." explanations.
 
Predicting the future - again.

In the 1990s the Star Trek series Deep Space Nine predicted a dystopian vision of 2024 homelessness that has parallels with reality.

It's tempting to view fictional stories set far in the future as visions – dystopian or otherwise – of what might come to be. But the most successful works are able to survive and reach new audiences even after their predictions have been proven untrue. For instance, the perpetual war of George Orwell's Nineteen Eighty-Four never came to pass by the year of its title. Nor did the interplanetary travel of Stanley Kubrick's 2001: A Space Odyssey exist by the new millennium. Nonetheless, these stories remain relevant, decades on from their predicted dates, thanks to their broader insights on timeless themes – from authoritarianism to human evolution.

With 11 television series and 13 films, produced across seven decades, Star Trek has inevitably seen several predicted events on its timeline proven untrue. In the original 1960s series, Star Trek's most famous villain, Khan, introduced viewers to the "Eugenics Wars", a massive conflict arising in the 1990s due to experiments in human genetic engineering. Later instalments predicted more tough times ahead, with World War III scheduled to begin in 2026, followed by an era of "post-atomic horror". ...

According to 1990s series Star Trek: Deep Space Nine, one of humanity's worst mistakes comes to a head in 2024. But unlike Star Trek's other predictions of global disaster, this mistake exists at a more relatable level. And, as we enter the real 2024, it remains a challenge that is just as urgent as when the episodes aired.

The challenge in question is homelessness, and humanity's mistake is to hide from the problem, rather than solving it. The issue is addressed in the two-part episode Past Tense, which aired in January 1995. This instalment sees series protagonist Commander Sisko and his crewmates accidentally transported back in time from their 24th-Century starship to San Francisco in 2024.

As they are waking from the unconsciousness of time travel, Sisko and his crew member Dr Bashir are mistakenly identified as homeless by armed officers. "There's a law against sleeping in the street," they tell the confused time travellers. Sisko and Bashir are escorted to a walled-off section of the city, known as a Sanctuary District. We learn that this facility is designed to separate the homeless and unemployed from the rest of society. "By the early 2020s, there was a place like this in every major city in the United States," Sisko explains to Bashir. ...

https://www.bbc.com/culture/article...space-nine-episode-that-predicted-a-us-crisis
 
The Bell Riots subject is only just 'trending' on social media.
To me, this isn't a prediction, or even a foresight using sociology. It's a coincidental echo.
 
Oh dear.
I'm getting echoes of the Buffy episode 'Once More, with Feeling'. Aaargh.
 
As soon as you said that, AB, I immediately recalled ...
At least the captain looks like he's doing it under duress.
 
I can imagine so.
How is it maintaining and respecting the original property - which was serious on the whole, with some humour - by injecting song and dance routines?
 
Analogue Boy said:
Surely the last thing the world needs…
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The sad thing is, that in isolation, the episode was done very well and was enjoyable. Christina Chong has a hell of a set of pipes!

The problem for me is that it was tonally off from the rest of Star Trek. It was a bold experiment, but for me it didn't fully land. Overall though, as I said, in isolation it's enjoyable and has some good tunes. Musicals aren't everyone's taste, so I can fully understand some people hating it. However, it's a single episode of an otherwise exceptionally entertaining show, so I am willing to forgive. And after all, it's not like this single episode has replaced all the other episodes of Star Trek.

The Lower Decks crossover episode made up for this...
 
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