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Are We Really Fatter Nowadays?

You can’t win.

A MacDonalds Big Mac, fries, and, coke combo meal is 1,600 calories.

This is half of a person’s calories for the day.
 
I agree Yithian,

My wife and I, with our medical problems, try to eat healthy.

But, the southern states in the U.S. are the stroke/heart attack center of the U.S.

Why is this ?

Because people in this area believe if it ain’t fried in oil, it ain’t food.
 
You can’t win.

A MacDonalds Big Mac, fries, and, coke combo meal is 1,600 calories.

This is half of a person’s calories for the day.
More than half for most men of middle age who don't have physically active jobs. I gain weight if I consistently eat more than 2000 calories a day and I walk 40 minutes a day (- 200 calories).

....even the burger on its own is more calories than I eat for a meal.
 
I agree Yithian,

My wife and I, with our medical problems, try to eat healthy.

But, the southern states in the U.S. are the stroke/heart attack center of the U.S.

Why is this ?

Because people in this area believe if it ain’t fried in oil, it ain’t food.
That's like the Scottish diet then. Legendarily unhealthy. :(
 
When Cromwell defeated the Scots around 1700s, he sent the Scots to the Blue Ridge Mountains of East Tennessee.

To this day the Scots in Tennessee do Highland Games and the Scottish music is the basis of Country Music.
Love Country Music, especially The Judds!
And you're right, the south is the center of Country Music.
 
That's like the Scottish diet then. Legendarily unhealthy. :(
Although I read somewhere that actually Scottish recruits to the British Army in the 19th century were much healthier than English ones; the former tended to eat a lot more oats and vegetable stews whereas a good proportion of the latter had subsisted on bread and lard and weak tea for much of their early lives.
 
I really don’t think so.
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T63 circa Paddy’s Day 2023

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I have to watch what I eat (post menopausal with the fat convertion ratio of a really good pig) and I am often astonished by the fact that people will eat as a 'snack' what I would consider to be a main meal. I know I have to keep my calorie intake down to under 2000 to not gain weight (and that's with running 5 miles a day and having quite an active job), and many people seem to think nothing of noshing down 1000 calories just to kill time.

Because of my tendency to gain weight I'm very aware of calories, so maybe that's why I notice.

Except for cake. Cake has no calories at all, right?
 
I'm going with " for money reasons". Especially since some of the weight loss surgery clinics shacks told the hypothetical BBC person to put weight on in order to get weight loss surgery.
Whereas, I've relations who want weight-loss surgery - a gastric band etc. - and they were told "You need to lose some weight before we risk putting you under." Fair enough - weight does factor into anasthetic - but it sounds like they're taking the piss.

Recently, t'missus got a book called Ultra-Processed People (after hearing the author talking very sensibly on the radio) - the point of it being that a diet with a majority of ultra-processed food is a massive cause of weight gain. Put simply, he advises "read the ingredients label - if you wouldn't find them in a basic kitchen cupboard, steer clear."
 
I have to watch what I eat (post menopausal with the fat convertion ratio of a really good pig) and I am often astonished by the fact that people will eat as a 'snack' what I would consider to be a main meal. I know I have to keep my calorie intake down to under 2000 to not gain weight (and that's with running 5 miles a day and having quite an active job), and many people seem to think nothing of noshing down 1000 calories just to kill time.

Because of my tendency to gain weight I'm very aware of calories, so maybe that's why I notice.

Except for cake. Cake has no calories at all, right?
Right now I'm having Eight O'Clock coffee with a slice of zucchini bread for breakfast.
The zucchini bread is made by a specialty Canadian Bakery and shipped here periodically, can't find it in any bakery in the US.
Delicious and low calorie!
 
I seems zucchini pasta is gaining popularity as one big cup is 30 calories while the same in regular pasta is 210 calories.

I have never tried zucchini pasta myself so I don’t know the taste.
 
Whereas, I've relations who want weight-loss surgery - a gastric band etc. - and they were told "You need to lose some weight before we risk putting you under." Fair enough - weight does factor into anasthetic - but it sounds like they're taking the piss.

Recently, t'missus got a book called Ultra-Processed People (after hearing the author talking very sensibly on the radio) - the point of it being that a diet with a majority of ultra-processed food is a massive cause of weight gain. Put simply, he advises "read the ingredients label - if you wouldn't find them in a basic kitchen cupboard, steer clear."
You're right about that - I read the labels on everything we eat, and if one of the ingredients is 'high fructose corn syrup', or even 'corn syrup', I put it down. (I don't know what that even is.) Along with sugar as the first ingredient. And I don't know about other countries, but our foods are labeled with calorie content, fat, cholesterol, sugar, salt, etc.
It's amazing what they process and package and serve up to us as 'food'.
 
I seems zucchini pasta is gaining popularity as one big cup is 30 calories while the same in regular pasta is 210 calories.

I have never tried zucchini pasta myself so I don’t know the taste.
I haven't seen that here yet - if I do I'm going to try it!
 
As I have read about zucchini pasta, it seems they have a tendency towards being watery.
 
Zucchini pasta is, I believe, simply zucchini shredded on a coarse grater or with something called a spiralizer. You don't really have to cook it, just mix it in to a hot sauce and it will tenderise itself. Known in the UK as 'courgetti'.
Got to do something to make courgettes more interesting..
 
Whereas, I've relations who want weight-loss surgery - a gastric band etc. - and they were told "You need to lose some weight before we risk putting you under." Fair enough - weight does factor into anasthetic - but it sounds like they're taking the piss.

Recently, t'missus got a book called Ultra-Processed People (after hearing the author talking very sensibly on the radio) - the point of it being that a diet with a majority of ultra-processed food is a massive cause of weight gain. Put simply, he advises "read the ingredients label - if you wouldn't find them in a basic kitchen cupboard, steer clear."
'Processed' is only a small part of the issue. The addition of sugars and fats to food you wouldn't reasonably expect to have much of either pushes the calorie counts way up - both of those additives broadly have 6-700 calories per 100g. Lean chicken is a little over 100 calories for the same weight.

Those 'well known' tuna lunches seem like a healthy lunch but they're 300 odd calories and a careful read of the label will tell show about a third of the calories are sugars/fats. If I make my own using tinned mixed beans, tuna and whole-meal rice, with the same calorie count the portion is twice the physical size (at least). 500 calories of that mixture (and some soy sauce) is a pretty good (large) healthy lunch.

I have to keep under 2000 calories to not put on weight and keep over 1500 to aovid starvation responses - I've experimented and adjusted - I count them - and keep myself to 1800 a day more or less - which is why I've lost 35 pounds in two years and kept it off.

There is no 'diet' that works long term, there's only 'changing your eating pattern for life'. And it's not easy :)

I seems zucchini pasta is gaining popularity as one big cup is 30 calories while the same in regular pasta is 210 calories.

I have never tried zucchini pasta myself so I don’t know the taste.

Pasta has a reputation as 'healthy'. It's not, it's a refined carbohydrate. It's no more a health food than white bread. Replace it with vegetables and you'll be far better off.

Got to do something to make courgettes more interesting..
Slice, season well, fry in olive oil until both sides are dark brown.
 
'Processed' is only a small part of the issue. The addition of sugars and fats to food you wouldn't reasonably expect to have much of either pushes the calorie counts way up - both of those additives broadly have 6-700 calories per 100g. Lean chicken is a little over 100 calories for the same weight.

Those 'well known' tuna lunches seem like a healthy lunch but they're 300 odd calories and a careful read of the label will tell show about a third of the calories are sugars/fats. If I make my own using tinned mixed beans, tuna and whole-meal rice, with the same calorie count the portion is twice the physical size (at least). 500 calories of that mixture (and some soy sauce) is a pretty good (large) healthy lunch.

I have to keep under 2000 calories to not put on weight and keep over 1500 to aovid starvation responses - I've experimented and adjusted - I count them - and keep myself to 1800 a day more or less - which is why I've lost 35 pounds in two years and kept it off.

There is no 'diet' that works long term, there's only 'changing your eating pattern for life'. And it's not easy :)



Pasta has a reputation as 'healthy'. It's not, it's a refined carbohydrate. It's no more a health food than white bread. Replace it with vegetables and you'll be far better off.


Slice, season well, fry in olive oil until both sides are dark brown.
Exactly, which is why I read the labels on everything now. It's shameful how much sugar, salt and fats are tossed into our foods.
I did buy fried fish for dinner, but I made cilantro lime rice and honey carrots as sides.
I try to avoid muffins though I love them, as they are something like 600 calories for one, which is outrageous. If I do have one, I exercise longer. You're right - it's a life choice!
 
Pasta has a reputation as 'healthy'. It's not, it's a refined carbohydrate. It's no more a health food than white bread. Replace it with vegetables and you'll be far better off.
That's why Mussolini wanted Italians to stop eating it and start eating more rice instead.
He said it made people too 'sluggish'.

Continuing the subject of this thread though, the British and Americans have taken Italian cuisine and totally ruined altered it, making our versions of 'Italian' food much more unhealthy than they normally would be.

Massive plates of pasta with lots of meat and pizza with half a pound of cheese on is not the Italian way.
In fact, meat was very rarely eaten as people could not afford it.
Even today dishes often have no meat in.
 
That's why Mussolini wanted Italians to stop eating it and start eating more rice instead.
He said it made people too 'sluggish'.

Continuing the subject of this thread though, the British and Americans have taken Italian cuisine and totally ruined altered it, making our versions of 'Italian' food much more unhealthy than they normally would be.

Massive plates of pasta with lots of meat and pizza with half a pound of cheese on is not the Italian way.
In fact, meat was very rarely eaten as people could not afford it.
Even today dishes often have no meat in.
Loving - and learning to cook Italian meals - I agree with this. A filling, delicious dinner can be gnocci, a spoon of pesto and a sprinkling of parmesan is enough. It's the flavour that counts. When it comes to pizza, a little detail that caught my appreciation is that it tends to be thin-crust and eaten with a knife and fork, the last detail being a 'limiter' to gorging oneself as it tends to slow down consumption IMO?
Still, I can't fight the desire I have for tiramisu, though I've come to appreciate pears poached in red wine!
Here's a coincidence; t'wife and myself always reserve Saturday as 'treat night', when neither of us needs to cook. Sometimes takeaway Chinese or pizza, on occasion we can afford to dine out. This afternoon, we snagged a reservation for two at a lovely Scarborough Italian restaurant that changes it's menu each month and specialises in 'home' cooking; not just pasta and pizza but delicious meals such as saltimbocca.
 
If I order a pizza, it's topped with lots of vegetables.
A doctor told me pasta is not good for us, same with cheese.
 
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