Kudos to Snowman X for nailing it!
Looks like Charlie White is a photographer that works with props to make disturbing images:
[ begin linkdump: ] (mostly from "Understanding Joshua")
http://www.skmu.no/dt_main.asp?gid=26&aid=919&g26=x&g3=x&g1=x&maingid=
http://www.ocma.net/Exhibitions/body_biennial.html
http://www.pbs.org/wnet/egg/234/
http://www.artnet.com/magazine/reviews/higgins/higgins8-7-01.asp
http://www.npr.org/programs/watc/features/2002/june/white/
(NSFW?) http://www.themorningnews.org/archives/people/charlie_white.shtml
(NSFW) http://images-eu.amazon.com/images/P/3980760294.02.LZZZZZZZ.jpg
[end linkdump.]
Looks like Charlie White is a photographer that works with props to make disturbing images:
[ begin linkdump: ] (mostly from "Understanding Joshua")
http://www.skmu.no/dt_main.asp?gid=26&aid=919&g26=x&g3=x&g1=x&maingid=
http://www.ocma.net/Exhibitions/body_biennial.html
http://www.pbs.org/wnet/egg/234/
http://www.artnet.com/magazine/reviews/higgins/higgins8-7-01.asp
http://www.npr.org/programs/watc/features/2002/june/white/
(NSFW?) http://www.themorningnews.org/archives/people/charlie_white.shtml
(NSFW) http://images-eu.amazon.com/images/P/3980760294.02.LZZZZZZZ.jpg
[end linkdump.]
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Who'd a thunk it?
Easy to be wise after the fact i know, but it certainly looked fake to me.
Case closed anyway as the chaps above have pointed out.
The seriously strange issue here, however, is the shocking presence of closet Iron Maiden fans here on the message board! :_omg:
Its been a while...
Love is a razor and I walked the line on that silver blade,
Slept in the dust with his daughter, her eyes red with
the slaughter of innocence.
But I will pray for her,
I will call her name out loud.
I would bleed for her,
If only I could see her now...
*As he drags his leather jacket from cold storage*
Easy to be wise after the fact i know, but it certainly looked fake to me.
Case closed anyway as the chaps above have pointed out.
The seriously strange issue here, however, is the shocking presence of closet Iron Maiden fans here on the message board! :_omg:
Its been a while...
Love is a razor and I walked the line on that silver blade,
Slept in the dust with his daughter, her eyes red with
the slaughter of innocence.
But I will pray for her,
I will call her name out loud.
I would bleed for her,
If only I could see her now...
*As he drags his leather jacket from cold storage*
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I have to admit my dog analysis was somewhat flawed. (I even said so in the original post.) I was trying to work out what could be that size with that kind of dentition, as South American cats don't tend to get that big. (Then again, as I've already proven on this thread, what the hell do I know?)
I admit that I didn't even really notice the snout and the lack of prominence. My bad.
Still, good to see that if you don't know something, you just need to ask the right people the question. (Although it could be argued that Goldstein lucked out on this one.)
I admit that I didn't even really notice the snout and the lack of prominence. My bad.
Still, good to see that if you don't know something, you just need to ask the right people the question. (Although it could be argued that Goldstein lucked out on this one.)
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Re: Who'd a thunk it?
Iron Maiden evoques quite a lot of Fortean images, don't you think?
The Yithian said:
Iron Maiden evoques quite a lot of Fortean images, don't you think?
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Actually, it looks about the right size for a jaguar skull. But it clearly is a fake. Thanks for the Charlie White links - quite a Fortean artist! I wonder if he was an influence on Peter Jackson?
Oh yeah, and i *knew* there was an album cover that the orcs with chains through their faces in PJ's LOTR reminded me of...
:stfu:
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Re: Who'd a thunk it?
I am the Trooper...
The Yithian said:
I am the Trooper...
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Yes, without a shadow of a doubt it's a digitally manipulated image, "'shop"ped or otherwise. Having done many photo manips myself, it's clear that the colours on the head are simple background samples (to maintain ambience) and the boy on the right and his stick are both additions to the original photo. It's a nice attempt, but pretty blatant digital trickery.
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Wow! Iron Maiden are on WDR (German Telly) right now! Freaky, or What! :eek!!!!:
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Sertile said:
Sorry but I'm not familiar with this referrence. Can you go into a bit more detail?
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Cave Imp Photo
When I saw the chupa head I was instantly struck by the similarities.
I'm sure it's been discussed a time or two somewhere on the Fortean Times boards, but I don't have the time to look for any specific threads at the moment. You should be able to see the picture here:
http://www.cyberspaceorbit.com/cavelf.jpg
Apparently it's appeared in a few publications and was thought by some to be an authentic photograph of some sort of "demon," hopping along the walls of a cave (helped along by a wild story or two). I'll admit, the image is quite striking, and I was even taken in by it's magic for a time (In fact I used to have a picture of it sitting on my desk!) but it's supposed to have turned out to be nothing but a carving in some sort of English attraction called "Crystal Caves," or something along those lines, in Cheddar.
When I saw the chupa head I was instantly struck by the similarities.
I'm sure it's been discussed a time or two somewhere on the Fortean Times boards, but I don't have the time to look for any specific threads at the moment. You should be able to see the picture here:
http://www.cyberspaceorbit.com/cavelf.jpg
Apparently it's appeared in a few publications and was thought by some to be an authentic photograph of some sort of "demon," hopping along the walls of a cave (helped along by a wild story or two). I'll admit, the image is quite striking, and I was even taken in by it's magic for a time (In fact I used to have a picture of it sitting on my desk!) but it's supposed to have turned out to be nothing but a carving in some sort of English attraction called "Crystal Caves," or something along those lines, in Cheddar.
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I was in the same year as Steve Harris out of Iron Maiden-
he must be getting really old now...
perhaps thats his head.
he must be getting really old now...
perhaps thats his head.
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chupa skeleton remains
skeleton of chupa
I haven't seen the photos on this site before. i don't know if they are hoaxes or if anyone here has seen them before. what d'you think?
skeleton of chupa
I haven't seen the photos on this site before. i don't know if they are hoaxes or if anyone here has seen them before. what d'you think?
I saw a chupacabra's corpse once at the county fair, as a matter of fact. This was no Minnesota Iceman, though; it was a piece of shit. The thing was part of an "animal freak show" that included a live four-legged duck, some odd fish passed off as mermen, and a bunch of pig embryos floating around in jars. The chupacabra was the main attraction, and lay in the middle of a large crate padded with hay. My imagination raced, thinking maybe, just MAYBE somebody had gotten lucky and actually killed one of the little devils. Sadly, all I got was a crude, fiberglass skeleton glued to the bottom of the crate with some rubber "intestines" pouring out. Unfortunate that I didn't have my camera, or else I could post it on Art Bell's website with all the other "authentic" chupa remains
Caught on video?!?
Sorry to drag up the Chupa corpse again, but I couldn't
pass this one up:
http://www.geocities.com/ufomiami.geo/DIGITAL/Caught.html
Use this for the video:
http://www.geocities.com/ufomiami.geo/DIGITAL/CloseUp.mpg
__________________________________________
THE RECORDING
The duration in which the animal can be seen is of approximately 4 seconds. The distance from the camera's position to the subject under analysis is approximately 15 to 20 meters.
Its appearance, at a glance, is that of a black panther combining canine and ape characteristics. But detail is only possible through the result of an objective digital analysis.
TRUE APPEARANCE OF THE ANIMAL
Its size--horizontally-- is approximately 1.8 meters long by 1.4 meters tall.
It has two ears similar to those of a donkey but much thinner, with an approximate length of 30 centimeters. When these are in repose, they remain straight and forward (rigid). Upon observing or feeling itself under observation, it moves them backward at a 90 degree angle, approximately. At no time does it relax or put its ears back, as is the case with most animals; they always move in the same direction, from front to back.
On its abdominal region it present four cannulae or segmented tubes which appear to emerge from its dorsal area and are attached to its body. These cannulae, ended in semi-rounded points, hang beneath its abdomen forming a ring. Something similar can be found on its neck but these are short, thick and semi-conical. Between its nasal region and muzzle other dangling cannulae can be seen, these being shorter and lighter in color, and which it appears to be able to contract and extend at will. Speculatively, it might be able to employ them as siphons to drain its victims' blood.
Between these cannulae, which emerge under its nose, a strange pair of vampire-like fangs can be seen to emerge from the upper mandible, linking in a rounded manner, opening slightly at their ends and curving backward, like powerful claww.
It has a powerful jaw and a broad muzzle with long upper fangs.
Its nose presents large nasal openings, a combination of pig, mandrill and wolf.
Seen sideways, its face resembles that of a large feline, but seen face-on, [it resembles] a fusion between wolf, feline, pig and mandrill. It further presents a slight protuberance in the upper rear part of its skull.
It features a pair of curvilinear upper wings which fold and emerge from behind its neck, like the wings on a hawk. These weings present three folds from beginning to end, with the last one fold being the one of largest size.
It is further endowed with two medium-sized lateral fins that emerge from behind each one of the front legs, which are linked to a "semi-rectangular" prominence or bulk located in the underarm joint of said extremity.
The wings resemble those of a bat, where bones adhered to the skin can be identified, showing several final flolds and fan-shaped joints on the base.
It features membranes or pseudo-wings which link the front arms with the medial abdominal region of its body and has characteristics which are very similar to the aforementioned wings, only thinner. In a resting position, these [pseudo-wings] assume the shape of an inverted "V". Its skin is slightly lighter in color and crossed by thin bones.
It has a short tail, measuring some 20 cm. in length with a mean thickness of 5 cm. resembling a thick sausage, which it shakes quickly.
Its upper wings, when folded over its back, become fused with its fur. Slight protuberances (on its back) can be seen which would be the edges of the pointed folds of the folded wings. Toward the end of the body, the endings or tips of the wings mounted (sic) or in repose can be clearly seen, above and between the tail.
It's hind legs are noticeably longer than the front ones. It walks with its hind legs flexed--as though crouching--opening them sideways; it walks normally with its front legs. Its gait has a certain resemblance with that of a large lizard. Both arms and legs on its upper section appear thick and strong. Four long frontal toes joined by a membrane can be seen in its hind legs, plus a dewclaw with medium sized nails.
The color of the creature's skin on its head and the ends of its feet and hands are dark in color, rather black, while the rest of the body has a dark brown shade that is only slightly lighter in the abdominal area. Reddish shades are evident on its nose and upper wings (back). Certain lighter shades can also be seen toward the tips of the upper folded wings (over the tail).
It is not possible to establish sexual organs.
It walks quickly, talking great strides, but the movement of its wings and face (attention and reaction) is far swifter. Movements are very similar to those of a lizard.
Its eyes are elongated and swept backward, menacing, curved and following the shape of its skull.
The analyses are still ongoing. New details on this creature may still be found.
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I think this is by the same folks who brought
us the fairy-folk in the solar lamp!
Its a cat for crying out loud!
TVgeek
Sorry to drag up the Chupa corpse again, but I couldn't
pass this one up:
http://www.geocities.com/ufomiami.geo/DIGITAL/Caught.html
Use this for the video:
http://www.geocities.com/ufomiami.geo/DIGITAL/CloseUp.mpg
__________________________________________
THE RECORDING
The duration in which the animal can be seen is of approximately 4 seconds. The distance from the camera's position to the subject under analysis is approximately 15 to 20 meters.
Its appearance, at a glance, is that of a black panther combining canine and ape characteristics. But detail is only possible through the result of an objective digital analysis.
TRUE APPEARANCE OF THE ANIMAL
Its size--horizontally-- is approximately 1.8 meters long by 1.4 meters tall.
It has two ears similar to those of a donkey but much thinner, with an approximate length of 30 centimeters. When these are in repose, they remain straight and forward (rigid). Upon observing or feeling itself under observation, it moves them backward at a 90 degree angle, approximately. At no time does it relax or put its ears back, as is the case with most animals; they always move in the same direction, from front to back.
On its abdominal region it present four cannulae or segmented tubes which appear to emerge from its dorsal area and are attached to its body. These cannulae, ended in semi-rounded points, hang beneath its abdomen forming a ring. Something similar can be found on its neck but these are short, thick and semi-conical. Between its nasal region and muzzle other dangling cannulae can be seen, these being shorter and lighter in color, and which it appears to be able to contract and extend at will. Speculatively, it might be able to employ them as siphons to drain its victims' blood.
Between these cannulae, which emerge under its nose, a strange pair of vampire-like fangs can be seen to emerge from the upper mandible, linking in a rounded manner, opening slightly at their ends and curving backward, like powerful claww.
It has a powerful jaw and a broad muzzle with long upper fangs.
Its nose presents large nasal openings, a combination of pig, mandrill and wolf.
Seen sideways, its face resembles that of a large feline, but seen face-on, [it resembles] a fusion between wolf, feline, pig and mandrill. It further presents a slight protuberance in the upper rear part of its skull.
It features a pair of curvilinear upper wings which fold and emerge from behind its neck, like the wings on a hawk. These weings present three folds from beginning to end, with the last one fold being the one of largest size.
It is further endowed with two medium-sized lateral fins that emerge from behind each one of the front legs, which are linked to a "semi-rectangular" prominence or bulk located in the underarm joint of said extremity.
The wings resemble those of a bat, where bones adhered to the skin can be identified, showing several final flolds and fan-shaped joints on the base.
It features membranes or pseudo-wings which link the front arms with the medial abdominal region of its body and has characteristics which are very similar to the aforementioned wings, only thinner. In a resting position, these [pseudo-wings] assume the shape of an inverted "V". Its skin is slightly lighter in color and crossed by thin bones.
It has a short tail, measuring some 20 cm. in length with a mean thickness of 5 cm. resembling a thick sausage, which it shakes quickly.
Its upper wings, when folded over its back, become fused with its fur. Slight protuberances (on its back) can be seen which would be the edges of the pointed folds of the folded wings. Toward the end of the body, the endings or tips of the wings mounted (sic) or in repose can be clearly seen, above and between the tail.
It's hind legs are noticeably longer than the front ones. It walks with its hind legs flexed--as though crouching--opening them sideways; it walks normally with its front legs. Its gait has a certain resemblance with that of a large lizard. Both arms and legs on its upper section appear thick and strong. Four long frontal toes joined by a membrane can be seen in its hind legs, plus a dewclaw with medium sized nails.
The color of the creature's skin on its head and the ends of its feet and hands are dark in color, rather black, while the rest of the body has a dark brown shade that is only slightly lighter in the abdominal area. Reddish shades are evident on its nose and upper wings (back). Certain lighter shades can also be seen toward the tips of the upper folded wings (over the tail).
It is not possible to establish sexual organs.
It walks quickly, talking great strides, but the movement of its wings and face (attention and reaction) is far swifter. Movements are very similar to those of a lizard.
Its eyes are elongated and swept backward, menacing, curved and following the shape of its skull.
The analyses are still ongoing. New details on this creature may still be found.
___________________________________________
I think this is by the same folks who brought
us the fairy-folk in the solar lamp!
Its a cat for crying out loud!
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I just dowloaded the video and saw the pictures in the other Spanish website. For the life of me, I can't see a thing that would not convince that this is not a dog or some other animal.
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Stuff like this makes me wonder why there are so many Mexican hairless dogs in the U.S. And they really like berrys, by the way.
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Now that is interesting. It does look rather dog like, but isn´t the front legs wrong? They seem odd to me. The way the knees go.
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Merrick said:
They are normal. Remember that the "knees" in the front legs fold backwards. It's not a knee by the way, I don't remember the English word, but it's the articulation between arm and forearm. It has not a rothula like the knee. If this thing is not a dog, it's still a canine.
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I think you mean 'elbow'? In dogs the 'knee' on the hind legs is called the stifle joint.