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Then surely it's ignorance and not the device used that's the problem? I know that there's a lot of fear and superstition, but until people break through this, we'll be stuck in the stoneage enlightenment-wise.
spillage said:I think the "Demons get you " and the bans were mainly due to Christian peacekeepers. Such is with Tarots and runes etc. Could be a legacy from the fascistic ways of the early Christians and their Pagan bashing.
"Oppose my God and I shall thwart thee" sort of nonsense.
"Don't meddle in the unknown!" Is a common one.... anti-science anyone? lol! :lol:
Could I ask, all the posters who fear the Oui-Ja... are you or were you brought up religiously?
The Pentecostal Oui-Ja board destroying does sound manically obsessive, no offense.
tygerkat said:Spillage, I'm not in the least bit religious; I'm anti-religious if anything. I'm not really afraid of them just wary because of all the stories I've heard about them. Can't remember the last time (if ever) I heard of some good coming from using the things.
Redhead said:P.S. We tested the "authenticity" of the board by using it wearing blindfolds. It worked fine, but only spelled gibberish.
Only when the blindfolds were off, did it spell actual words.
horik said:Redhead said:P.S. We tested the "authenticity" of the board by using it wearing blindfolds. It worked fine, but only spelled gibberish.
Only when the blindfolds were off, did it spell actual words.
Kinda backs up what I've long suspected about these boards - that someone amongst the users is either consciously or (more likely IMHO) subconsciously manipulating the glass.
I dabbled a bit with them in my youth but nothing ever occured to make me believe that spirits of the dead were contacting us - the results were always either vague, common knowledge or stuff that couldn't be sustantiated.
Redhead said:I have seen the planchette ( or pointer) move very slowly, and sometimes very quickly....so quickly in fact that it was hard to keep our hands on it.
There is no space between words---you have to figure out what it is spelling and try to make sense of it.
Since it didn't work for us sensically when we were blindfolded and couldn't see the letters, I am starting to lean towards the power of mind/ energy causing it to move. Having said that, I may just try an experiment by having someone else and myself place our hands on any ole object and see if that can move.
However, on the other hand, if we are really communicating with the dead, why do they need a Ouija board to talk to us? Why don't they just write us notes and leave them on the kitchen table for us?
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I have been using a Ouija board since I can remember, and while it produces an eerie aura and is the basis of countless creepy tales, I am not convinced we are contacting the dead.
If we are, why don't they ever tell us anything useful?
It drives me crazy...
Human 84, the movement is definitely touch-related. The very second there are no hands on it, all movement stops.
Human_84 said:But is it touch related in the sense that theres a culprit who purposely moves it to scare the other people? When I played with people before I was always certain one of the other people was purposely moving it.
spillage said:After a few contacts full of misspellings we actually had a spirit tell us to turn on some lights so he could see the board better!
Sounds like a cop out to me. They can shift things and materialise things, but they need a light to see what they are spelling? Hmmmm.... Giggle!
Isis said:Redhead I always felt that ouija boards were moved by somebody's mental energies but on the one occasion I tried it with neighbours I found it wasn't exactly. I was pregnant with my first child and had decided if it was a boy it would be called Gavin and if a girl. Karen. As soon as I touched the moving piece I felt like an electric current going down my arm and I consciously tried to mentally spell out Gavin. At first the piece started towards G but then went straight to K and spelled out Karen.
spillage said:"Will power"? Subconcious yearnings, or even that combined. A twitch from anticipation pushing the thing and expectation taking over.
If it's a case of "The spirits using the mortals to communicate" then why can't the mortal be blindfolded? Why is there nothing spelled out that can't be done by an illusionist or mindreader? Bah.. this could go on forever with excuse after excuse and thoretical reasoning.
The point is....it doesn't stand up to scrutiny so no matter how much experience one has with them, there's only the vaguest hint at anything paranormal about them.
spillage said:"Will power"? Subconcious yearnings, or even that combined. A twitch from anticipation pushing the thing and expectation taking over.
If it's a case of "The spirits using the mortals to communicate" then why can't the mortal be blindfolded? Why is there nothing spelled out that can't be done by an illusionist or mindreader? Bah.. this could go on forever with excuse after excuse and thoretical reasoning.
The point is....it doesn't stand up to scrutiny so no matter how much experience one has with them, there's only the vaguest hint at anything paranormal about them.