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Jimmy Savile

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escargot1 said:
Timble2 said:
Not sure that a character reference for JS from the Yorkshire Ripper is going to help matters...

:rofl:

I keep looking at this comment and laughing again. :lol:
Funny peculiar, not funny, ha ha.

Got to admit, of all the Savile related rumours, allegations, relationships, accounts, coincidences, etc., it's his dalliance with Sutcliffe, that I find the most disturbing.
 
Here's a thoughtful GQ article by dance music historian Frank Broughton:

The Oddfather

I always knew Jimmy Savile was a wrong'un; I was certain his cupboards were rattling with skeletons. But rather than a monumental kiddie-fiddler, I had him down as a reconstructed gangster atoning for sins of violence.

etc
 
escargot1 said:
Here's a thoughtful GQ article by dance music historian Frank Broughton:

The Oddfather

I always knew Jimmy Savile was a wrong'un; I was certain his cupboards were rattling with skeletons. But rather than a monumental kiddie-fiddler, I had him down as a reconstructed gangster atoning for sins of violence.

etc

Great article, nice find.

Once again, I must point that my DJing is in no-way related to DJ J-Sav. :shock:
 
CarlosTheDJ said:
escargot1 said:
Here's a thoughtful GQ article by dance music historian Frank Broughton:

The Oddfather

I always knew Jimmy Savile was a wrong'un; I was certain his cupboards were rattling with skeletons. But rather than a monumental kiddie-fiddler, I had him down as a reconstructed gangster atoning for sins of violence.

etc

Great article, nice find.

Once again, I must point that my DJing is in no-way related to DJ J-Sav. :shock:

Do you wear a shell suit and a huge medallion? Just asking. :)
 
I think the term No shit, Sherlock can be applied to this

Jimmy Savile 'engineered' his TV shows to abuse children

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/ ... ldren.html

The TV presenter and radio DJ created shows such as Top of the Pops and Jim’ll Fix It with the aim of enabling him to carry out sex attacks on hundreds hundreds of victims, the expert said.
Mark Williams-Thomas, a former child protection officer, is now working on a follow-up programme to his original ITV1 documentary about Savile’s abuse, which shocked the nation and triggered a crisis at the BBC when it was broadcast last month.
The new film looks at the full extent of the presenter’s predatory attacks on young girls and a smaller number of boys from his time at Radio Luxembourg in the 1950s onwards.
It also examines how he got away with it for so long, and whether the British establishment turned a blind eye.
 
FFS :roll:

If Jimmy Saville 'created his shows' in order to abuse children, he would have come up with Minipops, wouldn't he?
 
Not at all. No adults mixed with the children on the Minipops studio floor. There was no male presenter with built-in opportunities to fondle and grope young participants either on camera or behind the scenes. The creepiness of Minipops could be enjoyed in a pedophile's own front room - no need to be there in person.

I remember Minipops. Didn't find it disturbing at the time, just irritating.
 
jimllfixitvan.jpg
 
That's just awful! That poor fellow!
 
Another version of the handyman story has a picture of the personalized number-plate that the yobs took the trouble to paint so neatly in white and black over the real one: P4 EDO.

Here is the story as it appeared on a site called Tabloid Truths

This version blanks the phone number which is so conspicuous in BRF's pasted pic.

Given that a respray and change of name were more or less inevitable . . .



:hmm:

edit "were," not "was" in last sentence!
 
Glad to see they managed the 'ae'.
Heartening.
 
theyithian said:
Glad to see they managed the 'ae'.
Heartening.

Yes, that is surprising.
 
Hmmm. The different spellings of 'paedo' make me suspect all is not as it seems with this story...
 
He should change the name to "Nice One Cyril".

My first thought was that it was his mates who did this.
Looking again though, that spunking cock is just too well drawn to be done by spraycan. The words like "Nonce" and "Perve"are certainly more Paintshop than paint can.

Perhaps the only genuine bit was the reg plate, thanks to the convenient EDO ending.
 
Strange Savile-related shenanigans in Yorkshire -

SAVILE – and other Party-Animals

I normally post a short extract of an article but I'm putting up the whole page here as it is so weird that it might disappear!


SAVILE – and other Party-Animals

An ‘In My View’ follow-up article, continuing the Real Whitby investigation into the local activities of Jimmy Savile:

“Did North Yorks Police ‘fix it’ for Jim?”

“Savile: North Yorks Police/Council Cover-Up?”

IN THE PUBLIC INTEREST

The inner workings of the Town Hall in Scarborough often appear turgid and dull to the casual observer. However, careful scrutiny over a period of time is sometimes rewarded by the gradual emergence of hitherto unsuspected links.

Take, for example, the tip-off I received via FaceBook back in September 2010, reporting on a range if wrongdoings, including the alleged existence of a Class-A substance-abuse culture amongst management personnel at Scarborough Borough Council (SBC):

“I ve seen team leaders snort cocaine off their dashboards then set off driving. It’s a disgusting organization!”
. . . and this from someone identifying himself as a former SBC employee – a claim that proved easy to verify, since the writer and I share mutual Friends on FaceBook.

I raised the matter immediately with SBC Chief Executive Officer Jim DILLON in an email dated 12th September 2010.

Ten days later, I received a response from the then Head of Legal & Support Serrvices Ian Anderson, who told me: “As I believe you will appreciate this information is inadequate to be treated as a whistleblowing allegation”.

Stone-walled – but no denial. So I immediately responded by sending an FOIA request for, amongst other information, the full gamut of internal SBC documentation relating to drug-abuse within SBC, including any reports passed to the North Yorkshire Police. My FOIA was formally acknowledged the following day – and that (wouldn’t you know it?) is the last official word that I have ever succeeded in extracting from SBC on the subject of cocaine-usage by Council personnel. Once again, stone-walled – and still no denial.

I did message SBC and NYCC Councillor Bill CHATT (who featured prominently in a recent Tim Hicks article here on Real Whitby), asking if he could shed any light on the subject, and attaching a ‘screen-shot’ of the above FaceBook posting. He could not. But on 30th November 2010, he did send me a message that I could only interpret as a ‘warning off’. So I asked him for clarification and he came back, the following day, with this (SPG properties retained):

“in simple terms stop stirring the shit,you will become untouchable. if you are not already?”
For a Council that professes to take such a pride in its ‘openness and transparency’, SBC certainly does seem to have its share of dark secrets. But let me leave that ‘thread’ dangling for a moment; we will pick it up in due course . . .

I clearly remember (ten years ago) a well-lubricated dinner guest of mine (a long-serving Scarborough Borough Councillor) telling us that the Police turned a blind eye to many goings-on in Whitby. She spoke of fellow Councillors and senior Council and Police Officers engaging in ‘spin-the-bottle’ parties at Sandsend, and of naked ‘rituals’ at the old alum excavations behind the cliffs near Kettleness – and at some standing-stones on the moors – throughout the ‘seventies, ‘eighties and ‘nineties, by which time the intoxicant of choice had graduated from alcohol and/or marijuana to cocaine and/or amphetamines, and the preferred activities had taken on a more sinister character. She clammed up when encouraged to elaborate. At the time, I dismissed all that as chit-chat, straight out of the bottle. Now, I am not quite so sure . . .

In March 2010, an acquaintance of mine in Scarborough found a hand-delivered unaddressed envelope in his post-box. The envelope contained a photocopy of a letter purportedly sent to Diane Clarke, the Field Director of the Yorkshire Conservatives. The letter (scan reproduced below, in redacted form) refers, by name, to a prominent North Yorkshire career politician, alleging the use of sexual impropriety “to secure influential positions”.

My acquaintance scanned it and passed the original to the Scarborough News, from whence it has never re-emerged. The Scarborough News and the Whitby Gazette, be it remembered, do not practice investigative journalism, avoid all controversy and print only Council press releases on issues as ‘sensitive’ as this:

Shortly afterwards, a man in his fifties came into my acquaintance’s shop, asking if there would be any interest in photos of a ‘satanic ritual’ taking place at some standing-stones up on the moors, involving high-profile local dignitaries and officials, for publication on the web. My acquaintance, of course, expressed an interest, with the caveat that digital images would be more convenient. The stranger suggested that it could probably be arranged and that he would return in a few days. He never did.

We will let that ‘thread’ dangle for a moment, too . . .

Further to the allegations regarding the Savile connection to the ‘chamber’ in Whitby, with its sado-masochistic bondage and ritualistic paraphernalia reported in last Monday’s article (to which I am now hearing the name of a very senior local political figure and former MP being included), I have now interviewed a newspaper photographer who confirms that, back in the ‘eighties, he and a fellow journalist (on receipt of a tip-off from a member of the clergy in the Pickering area, to the effect that certain high-profile people would be performing a ‘naked satanic ritual’) staked out a site on the edge of the moors, to the north-west of Scarborough.

Equipped with camera and infra-red film, they scooped pictures of the said ‘naked satanic ritual’ and presented an explosive illustrated story to their editor at the local paper, who, having at first waxed highly enthusiastic, quickly performed a volte face and ‘buried’ it – because (they were told) of the ‘political sensitivity’ of some of the participants . . .

Given the now widespread allegations against Jimmy Savile of sexual abuse, rape, beatings and necrophilia, his basement ‘dungeon’ in Leeds, the ‘chamber’ in Whitby (with it’s whipping-post), the allegations of sex-and-drugs sessions and the al fresco ‘satanic rituals’ on the edge of the moors – to say nothing of the on-going investigations by six Police Forces over a period of fifty years, it is extremely difficult to believe that North Yorkshire Police in the Scarborough/Whitby area could conceivably have been “unaware” (how often we hear that) of the existence and activities of the Savile set – ‘The Club’ – and its central position in much of the foregoing. Or its high-profile membership.

That the Savile set – ‘The Club’ – was widely believed to be central to these depravities is clear – yet we are expected to believe that the Authorities knew nothing of all this.

As I stated in my third attempt to elicit a comment from SBC Leader Councillor Tom FOX, a few days ago:

“It stretches all credulity beyond the breaking-point to suggest that a complete information black-out could have existed with respect to Savile’s extended periods of residence in Scarborough.”
The suspicion that Savile was far-sighted enough to implicate, and thereby incriminate (through the implied – or applied – threat of blackmail), influential holders of public office in his activities has been raised at the BBC, in Leeds, in Manchester, at Broadmoor, at Stoke Mandeville Hospital, at Glencoe, at Haut de la Garenne, and (perhaps most shockingly) at Bryn Estyn, near Wrexham in North Wales – where, according to some blogs, young people died in the course of these horrific abuses.

Noteworthy is the fact that Savile-biographer Dan Davies has reported that Savile is also alleged (by fellow DJ Tony Calder) to have routinely kept Chief Police Officers on-side, to ‘cover his back’ – ie protect himself from arrest.

It is for Operation Yewtree and the anticipated Public Inquiry to determine the truth (or otherwise) of the huge roster of allegations against Savile. But the preponderance of probability is persuasive enough for most objective observers; Savile almost certainly did bring his perversion with him to Whitby and Scarborough – where, according to today’s papers, “victims have told detectives Savile masterminded a gang of pervs from his luxury flat” – a luxury flat, by the way, that Scarborough & Whitby’s Robert GOODWILL MP (Con.) was reportedly ‘stunned’ to learn had yet to be searched by the North Yorkshire Police.

That “gang of pervs”, needless to say, was known locally as ‘The Club’, and there is little doubt that it included amongst its members xxx xxxxxxx xxx xxxxx xx xxxxxxxxxxx xxxxxxxxxx xxxxx xxxxxxxxx, as well as other prominent and influential local ‘dignitaries’.

Meanwhile, we are expected to believe that SBC Leader Councillor Tom FOX, having completed his long career with the North Yorkshire Police (concluding as Acting Chief Inspector – the man in charge), knew nothing of all this and actively supported the bestowal of lavish civic honours upon Savile – he was “unaware” – another manifestation of the culture of concealment at SBC.

So who now, in the Local Authorities, will evince the courage and integrity to come forward in public and say, “Yes. The rumours were rife. I knew there was a risk of something terrible happening, and I was wrong to remain silent for so long”.

One might have hoped that that person would be SBC Leader Councillor Tom FOX, whose positions of privilege within both the North Yorkshire Police and Scarborough Borough Council, over a total of four decades, identify him as exceptionally well-placed to make such a statement.

So I ask him the question for the fourth time:

“Would the Leader confirm or deny that, as a former ranking Police Officer in Scarborough, and as long-serving leading Councillor since that time, he was aware that elements within the Authorities were cognisant of concerns of the gravest nature in respect of the activities of Sir Jimmy Savile, yet nevertheless played a leading rôle in the lavish civic honours bestowed upon a man now widely reviled as the worst and most degenerate sexual predator in the Borough’s history?”

I think we should be told. It is commendable that, at Councillor Tom FOX’s own urgent behest, SBC has now removed Savile‘s name from its “Roll of Honorary Freemen of the Borough”.

What remains to be answered is how it ever came to be there in the first place.

And I leave you with another alarming thought:

If such monstrous crimes as these could remain hidden, how much ‘transparency’ can we expect about more prosaic matters – planning consents, allowances, procurement and the like?

You decide.



:shock:

and again, :shock:

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P_M
 
Edit 2:

After a bit of Moderation and conferring, I've put the text back. The only actually named personage against whom allegations have been made appears to be dead. I've removed the name, anyway. The allegations still seems a bit more than normally wild. Actual tangible evidence somewhat scant.

P_M
 
WhistlingJack said:
FFS :roll:

If Jimmy Saville 'created his shows' in order to abuse children, he would have come up with Minipops, wouldn't he?

In hindsight Minipops looks like a bad idea that someone thought would work and C4 quickly realised they made a mistake.

In hindsight, we know that Savile helped create formats where he would be working with children every single week, and now that we know he was a paedophile you have to stand back and question the formats of programmes like Clunk Click and Jim'll Fix It as being something beyond what they actually seem.

The thing is Savile wasn't obvious even though he hid in plain sight. There certainly seems to be the need to rewrite a huge chunk of popular culture in the light of the continuing revelations.
 
Also, he knew many of the children were from troubled backgrounds (brought in from kids homes, etc) so he knew they wouldn't really be believed, if they came forward.
 
WhistlingJack said:
Hmmm. The different spellings of 'paedo' make me suspect all is not as it seems with this story...

Also, if you google the 'phone number and his name, you don't come up with any results.
I can't imagine that he wouldn't be listed on any websites.
 
Savile's NHS access scrutinised
By Branwen Jeffreys, Health correspondent, BBC News

Charities say the NHS needs a greater sense of urgency in its investigations into how Jimmy Savile was given extensive access to hospital premises.
The health service is setting up four investigations following allegations of abuse by Savile but it could be up to a year before they publish their reports. :shock:
This includes an internal inquiry at the Department of Health.

Critics say that the process must be as transparent as possible so that "the public itself" can judge.
The entertainer was given extensive access over decades to three NHS hospitals; Stoke Mandeville, Leeds General Infirmary and the high security psychiatric hospital Broadmoor.
Each hospital is to carry out its own investigation, with a further internal inquiry at the Department of Health into how Savile was appointed to a taskforce at Broadmoor.

Overseeing the work of all four of these inquiries will be Kate Lampard, a former barrister who is also vice chairman of an NHS regional authority in the south of England.

Two months after the allegations of abuse against Savile were first broadcast it is still not clear what the detailed remit of each inquiry will be, what efforts will be made to contact former staff and patients and when or how the results of the inquiries will be made public.

Steven George, a former patient at Broadmoor, is among those who want answers. Since he was at the hospital he has undergone a sex change, but says as Alison Pink he was sexually assaulted by Jimmy Savile.
While the police are investigating all the criminal allegations, Mr George says he wants the NHS to answer other questions about the access given to Savile.
He said: "Who individually decided to give him the keys - why? What did they think he could do other than raise the profile of Broadmoor? Why was he given the amount of freedom to roam unescorted with the keys, once he got the keys?"

Buckinghamshire Healthcare Trust, which runs Stoke Mandeville, has said its inquiry panel will be headed by one of its own non-executive directors, Keith Gilchrist.
That panel is due to meet and decide its terms of reference in the coming weeks. Broadmoor hospital is expected to make a similar announcement later this week.

Leeds General Infirmary told the BBC: "The structure and make-up of the panel to lead our internal investigation is currently being decided upon."

The Department of Health said the trusts - in consultation with Kate Lampard - are taking preparatory action and will begin inquiries once they have agreement from the police and the local boards which oversee child protection.

But National Voices - a coalition of 130 health and care charities - said the NHS needs to show greater urgency and transparency.
Their chief executive Jeremy Taylor told the BBC: "These appear to be entirely internal inquiries, we don't even know the names of the people, all of them who are going to conduct the inquiries, what the terms of reference are, how long they're going to take.
"And actually we want all that out in the public domain so that the public itself can be involved and judge.
"That's really important for accountability of the NHS to the public it serves. "

Peter Walsh, from Action against Medical Accidents, says this is particularly important as the NHS has not always been open about its mistakes.
"The public need and deserve to be reassured that things in our current NHS are safe."

No health minister was been available to do interviews about the NHS Savile inquiries.
Health Secretary Jeremy Hunt recently told MPs he had full confidence that Kate Lampard would thoroughly oversee all the investigations.

A Department of Health spokesman said: "These are appalling allegations, and alongside the three NHS trusts involved, we're determined to get to the bottom of them. That is why Kate Lampard has been appointed to oversee these investigations and as part of this work she will identify lessons for the whole NHS where they are found.
"All four organisations undertaking reviews are scoping the work required and setting out robust processes that protect the interests of patients. Terms of reference for the reviews and details of the process will be published shortly."

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-20499664
 
I've removed the post regarding the latest arrest connected to Operation Yewtree as the identity of the person concerned has yet to be confirmed by a verifiable source as that of the person mentioned.
 
WhistlingJack said:
I've removed the post regarding the latest arrest connected to Operation Yewtree as the identity of the person concerned has yet to be confirmed by a verifiable source as that of the person mentioned.

Okie dokes.
 
this whole thing has largely passed me by although obviously ive heard it doing the rounds but one thing that has struck me - not sure if its been remarked upon - how convenient to get the olympic and paralympic games out of the way before the documentary broke !
 
Savile abuse part of Operation Yewtree probe 'complete'

The strand of a police operation investigating abuse carried out by Jimmy Savile has been completed, with the number of alleged victims believed to be well over 500, the BBC understands.
Scotland Yard said Operation Yewtree, the inquiry into historic abuse, was collating its report and hoped to publish early in the New Year.

Yewtree has three strands - offences committed by Savile, those by him and others and those just by others.
Seven people have been questioned.
Of these six were under arrest. High-profile names arrested in connection with the investigation are PR consultant Max Clifford, comedian Freddie Starr, DJ Dave Lee Travis and former TV producer Wilfred De'Ath, who all deny any wrongdoing. Gary Glitter, who was also arrested, has not yet made a statement.
A man in his 80s was also questioned and a man in his 60s was arrested on Monday.

Operation Yewtree has 30 officers and has so far cost around £2m.
Scotland Yard said it hoped to provide as clear a picture as possible of Savile's offending, "giving a voice to those who have come forward and helping shape future child protection safeguards".
"We are extremely grateful to those victims who have contacted us and commend their bravery. Without them we would have no investigation," a spokesman said.
"To date, in excess of 500 victims have come forward and we have recorded 200 allegations of sexual assault."

Savile, who died last year aged 84, was best known as a Radio 1 DJ and the presenter of the Jim'll Fix It show on BBC One.
The BBC has announced two inquiries as a result of the abuse claims and a further review into the current sexual harassment policies at the corporation.

There is a further investigation into the circumstances surrounding the dropping of a Newsnight investigation into Savile.
Other inquiries being carried out into Savile's behaviour, besides Operation Yewtree, include the director of public prosecutions' review into the decision not to prosecute Savile in 2009

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-20686219
 
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