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Legs With No Body, Running Along The Road

escargot said:
I'd be advising Sis to take an eye test. Sight anomalies need checking out.

I worked on an eye unit and learned that 'seeing things' can be a sign of conditions like cataracts and retinal damage.

Our brains try to make sense of things we 'see'. Last year I saw black insects and birds swirling around when my eye was full of blood. It was a minor retinal tear, which condition I believe was popular on t'board last spring.
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Interestingly I recently overheard a conversation between opticians about referring a client to a specialist due to repeated "eye migraines". I'd never heard of this before.
 
PeteS said:
Interestingly I recently overheard a conversation between opticians about referring a client to a specialist due to repeated "eye migraines". I'd never heard of this before.
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Trevp666 said:
IIRC we do have a thread on this because I get them occasionally and have commented there.
Scintillating Scotoma is the one.
https://www.healthline.com/health/scintillating-scotoma#:~:text=A scotoma is an aura,of an underlying health condition.
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Yup, there are different types of migraine, well, people can suffer form a variety of symptoms separately or together.

I used to have what I'd call 'sick migraines', known to the Victorians as a 'sick headache', with the full works of head pain, nausea, photophobia etc.
This gradually eased off over the years to just the sight disturbances. I'd certainly call that an 'eye migraine'.

Had one of those yesterday in fact. Rang my boss in case it went bad ways and I had to go home but all was well.
 
escargot said:
Yup, there are different types of migraine, well, people can suffer form a variety of symptoms separately or together.

I used to have what I'd call 'sick migraines', known to the Victorians as a 'sick headache', with the full works of head pain, nausea, photophobia etc.
This gradually eased off over the years to just the sight disturbances. I'd certainly call that an 'eye migraine'.

Had one of those yesterday in fact. Rang my boss in case it went bad ways and I had to go home but all was well.
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My mother used to have the full works, I have the nausea and headache but skipped the worst of the symptoms, and my middle daughter suffers from the complete set. I've now found that I get visual disturbances but not the headache, so there are some things to be said for ageing.
 
Aren’t “eye” migraines really called ocular migraines? They’re the sort that I tend to have…..The first time I had one, I was convinced that I was having a stroke!
 
Sgt Girth said:
Aren’t “eye” migraines really called ocular migraines? They’re the sort that I tend to have…..The first time I had one, I was convinced that I was having a stroke!
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Yup, 'eye migraines' is descriptive and what non-medical people might say.
 
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Was there in 2004 for several weeks, the castle is just up to the right and affords a great view over this area. Did some work at the supposedly haunted Prince Rupert Hotel, sadly saw nothing but the activity was cemented around the suites in the oldest part of the building so didn't spend much time there apart from sticking my head in when unoccupied. Th owner and longer-serving member of staff were convinced it was haunted
 
I found this fascinating legs-with-no-body account on Mumsnet's current Halloween Spooky Stories thread:

NaughtyBoyGeorgeMichaelJacksonBrown 03/10/2023 17:10

This was just over 20 years ago in my late teens. It was August and I was staying at my then boyfriend's house; he worked on the family farm and had a cottage next to the farm house. It was harvest and due to weather, he was working through the night. The combining had been done in field 9 and was up there alone baling the straw alone (while I was snuggled in bed!). It was around 2am and I he came bursting in calling my name. Obviously panicked and expecting an accident I come rushing and he tells me to put a jumper and shoes on and follow him. I keep saying why, why, why but he just shakes his head and paces in the kitchen until I do as I'm told.

I follow him out to the tractor in the lane, get in and we set off. He starts giggling and says he has seen legs. You can imagine me - what legs, where, an accident, blood, are they ok, a mannequin, are you winding me up, this isn't funny, I'm tired etc. Then he explains...

He was in the top-ish corner of the field, lights on, following the straight line of cut straw when he's seen something in the field. As he gets closer he says it looks exactly like a pair of legs and boots but cut at the waist (never mentioned any gore) and they were stood up but moving, like they were doing the twist but slowly and with no fucking torso or head. And he needs me to see it too. After about 10 mins we get to the field but I can hardly fucking breathe by this point and start saying to go back, go back (I'm a lot braver now!). We're both in hysterics and he does turn round. On the way back, we ring his uncle who is in the main farm house (think we just needed an adult!) and he says he is on his way and meets us in his pickup halfway back to the farm. I get in the pick up and the two of them go back to the field. I drove back to the cottage and got inside and locked the door shaking. Only about 10 mins later the tractor comes roaring in at full speed both hop out and run into their own houses. He says it was still there but he doesn't want to talk about it and they didn't get out but got closer and could not see it as anything other than someone stood there doing the twist without anything above the belly button. I knew it was serious because the baler was left in the field and the tractor was left out and that was a big no no.

He's up a couple of hours later - he slept but i bloody couldn't and went back to finish up and said there was nothing there in the light of day. We broke up not long after (well, we already had broken up but I was still in love so hanging around in hope - remember I was very young!). And neither he nor Ed would talk about it, just brushed it off as a laugh with one of those 'shut up now' expressions. So I don't know if they ever investigated another night or the following harvest.

I hadn't heard any ghost stories about the place but I don't think there's any farm that doesn't have a history of accidents/ warning stories to stop kids playing around dangerous things. Maybe there was an old farmer who had been scythed in half in field nine. Maybe it was prank with an old scarecrow. Maybe it was a feed bag trapped on a stick in a funny spot. I did find the whole place scary after dark and heard some weird noises but that's pretty normal in an old house in the middle of nowhere. I really wish I had gone and seen for myself because I haven't seen anything else, ever.

Source: https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/am_i_b...251-to-start-the-spooky-stories-thread?page=5
 
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Queen Griddle said:
I found this fascinating legs-with-no-body account on Mumsnet's current Halloween Spooky Stories thread:

NaughtyBoyGeorgeMichaelJacksonBrown 03/10/2023 17:10

This was just over 20 years ago in my late teens. It was August and I was staying at my then boyfriend's house; he worked on the family farm and had a cottage next to the farm house. It was harvest and due to weather, he was working through the night. The combining had been done in field 9 and was up there alone baling the straw alone (while I was snuggled in bed!). It was around 2am and I he came bursting in calling my name. Obviously panicked and expecting an accident I come rushing and he tells me to put a jumper and shoes on and follow him. I keep saying why, why, why but he just shakes his head and paces in the kitchen until I do as I'm told.

I follow him out to the tractor in the lane, get in and we set off. He starts giggling and says he has seen legs. You can imagine me - what legs, where, an accident, blood, are they ok, a mannequin, are you winding me up, this isn't funny, I'm tired etc. Then he explains...

He was in the top-ish corner of the field, lights on, following the straight line of cut straw when he's seen something in the field. As he gets closer he says it looks exactly like a pair of legs and boots but cut at the waist (never mentioned any gore) and they were stood up but moving, like they were doing the twist but slowly and with no fucking torso or head. And he needs me to see it too. After about 10 mins we get to the field but I can hardly fucking breathe by this point and start saying to go back, go back (I'm a lot braver now!). We're both in hysterics and he does turn round. On the way back, we ring his uncle who is in the main farm house (think we just needed an adult!) and he says he is on his way and meets us in his pickup halfway back to the farm. I get in the pick up and the two of them go back to the field. I drove back to the cottage and got inside and locked the door shaking. Only about 10 mins later the tractor comes roaring in at full speed both hop out and run into their own houses. He says it was still there but he doesn't want to talk about it and they didn't get out but got closer and could not see it as anything other than someone stood there doing the twist without anything above the belly button. I knew it was serious because the baler was left in the field and the tractor was left out and that was a big no no.

He's up a couple of hours later - he slept but i bloody couldn't and went back to finish up and said there was nothing there in the light of day. We broke up not long after (well, we already had broken up but I was still in love so hanging around in hope - remember I was very young!). And neither he nor Ed would talk about it, just brushed it off as a laugh with one of those 'shut up now' expressions. So I don't know if they ever investigated another night or the following harvest.

I hadn't heard any ghost stories about the place but I don't think there's any farm that doesn't have a history of accidents/ warning stories to stop kids playing around dangerous things. Maybe there was an old farmer who had been scythed in half in field nine. Maybe it was prank with an old scarecrow. Maybe it was a feed bag trapped on a stick in a funny spot. I did find the whole place scary after dark and heard some weird noises but that's pretty normal in an old house in the middle of nowhere. I really wish I had gone and seen for myself because I haven't seen anything else, ever.

Source: https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/am_i_b...251-to-start-the-spooky-stories-thread?page=5
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This story really sounds like a set up - the storyteller was set up. At no point does she say that she saw anything. She only expresses her reaction to the story that was being told to her and the building of her fear and imagination of what it could be.

The fact that the baler was left in the field really has no relevance. It was disconnected from the tractor, which was done by the boyfriend as he was working alone. Not something that would have been done in an apparent moment of fear and panic.

The tractor was already in the yard, so again, irrelevant. Growing up on a farm, machinery that is being used is often left in a field that is being worked on. Not usual that whatever is being driven would be left in the field, but a tractor being left in yard is not unusual.

The boyfriend has time to drive the tractor (without baler, I will surmise) home and drive both of them back, but call the uncle to drive his pickup out. Hmmmmm.

She was set up for a laugh. The uncle and boyfriend may have had to fix something while in the field, but, again I will surmise, they did not investigate a sighting.
 
brownmane said:
This story really sounds like a set up - the storyteller was set up. At no point does she say that she saw anything. She only expresses her reaction to the story that was being told to her and the building of her fear and imagination of what it could be.

The fact that the baler was left in the field really has no relevance. It was disconnected from the tractor, which was done by the boyfriend as he was working alone. Not something that would have been done in an apparent moment of fear and panic.

The tractor was already in the yard, so again, irrelevant. Growing up on a farm, machinery that is being used is often left in a field that is being worked on. Not usual that whatever is being driven would be left in the field, but a tractor being left in yard is not unusual.

The boyfriend has time to drive the tractor (without baler, I will surmise) home and drive both of them back, but call the uncle to drive his pickup out. Hmmmmm.

She was set up for a laugh. The uncle and boyfriend may have had to fix something while in the field, but, again I will surmise, they did not investigate a sighting.
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Yes, the giggling struck me as an unusual response to a paranormal sighting.
 
catseye said:
As did something hanging around for long enough for boyfriend to go home and fetch someone, and bring them back to see.
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Though, according to the storyteller, she doesn't say she saw anything.

But, yes, it would be wonderful if things seen or heard would stay around for us to say "Look!" Wouldn't we all love to have a second person around to verify our paranormal experiences?


SimonBurchell said:
Yes, the giggling struck me as an unusual response to a paranormal sighting.
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I thought this as well, but people can have odd reactions when under stress, so I gave it the benefit of doubt.
 
Only about 10 mins later the tractor comes roaring in at full speed both hop out and run into their own houses. He says it was still there but he doesn't want to talk about it and they didn't get out but got closer and could not see it as anything other than someone stood there doing the twist without anything above the belly button. I knew it was serious because the baler was left in the field and the tractor was left out and that was a big no no.

So they went back, the boyfriend and the uncle and it was still there...
 
Queen Griddle said:
I found this fascinating legs-with-no-body account on Mumsnet's current Halloween Spooky Stories thread:

NaughtyBoyGeorgeMichaelJacksonBrown 03/10/2023 17:10

This was just over 20 years ago in my late teens. It was August and I was staying at my then boyfriend's house; he worked on the family farm and had a cottage next to the farm house. It was harvest and due to weather, he was working through the night. The combining had been done in field 9 and was up there alone baling the straw alone (while I was snuggled in bed!). It was around 2am and I he came bursting in calling my name. Obviously panicked and expecting an accident I come rushing and he tells me to put a jumper and shoes on and follow him. I keep saying why, why, why but he just shakes his head and paces in the kitchen until I do as I'm told.

I follow him out to the tractor in the lane, get in and we set off. He starts giggling and says he has seen legs. You can imagine me - what legs, where, an accident, blood, are they ok, a mannequin, are you winding me up, this isn't funny, I'm tired etc. Then he explains...

He was in the top-ish corner of the field, lights on, following the straight line of cut straw when he's seen something in the field. As he gets closer he says it looks exactly like a pair of legs and boots but cut at the waist (never mentioned any gore) and they were stood up but moving, like they were doing the twist but slowly and with no fucking torso or head. And he needs me to see it too. After about 10 mins we get to the field but I can hardly fucking breathe by this point and start saying to go back, go back (I'm a lot braver now!). We're both in hysterics and he does turn round. On the way back, we ring his uncle who is in the main farm house (think we just needed an adult!) and he says he is on his way and meets us in his pickup halfway back to the farm. I get in the pick up and the two of them go back to the field. I drove back to the cottage and got inside and locked the door shaking. Only about 10 mins later the tractor comes roaring in at full speed both hop out and run into their own houses. He says it was still there but he doesn't want to talk about it and they didn't get out but got closer and could not see it as anything other than someone stood there doing the twist without anything above the belly button. I knew it was serious because the baler was left in the field and the tractor was left out and that was a big no no.

He's up a couple of hours later - he slept but i bloody couldn't and went back to finish up and said there was nothing there in the light of day. We broke up not long after (well, we already had broken up but I was still in love so hanging around in hope - remember I was very young!). And neither he nor Ed would talk about it, just brushed it off as a laugh with one of those 'shut up now' expressions. So I don't know if they ever investigated another night or the following harvest.

I hadn't heard any ghost stories about the place but I don't think there's any farm that doesn't have a history of accidents/ warning stories to stop kids playing around dangerous things. Maybe there was an old farmer who had been scythed in half in field nine. Maybe it was prank with an old scarecrow. Maybe it was a feed bag trapped on a stick in a funny spot. I did find the whole place scary after dark and heard some weird noises but that's pretty normal in an old house in the middle of nowhere. I really wish I had gone and seen for myself because I haven't seen anything else, ever.

Source: https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/am_i_b...251-to-start-the-spooky-stories-thread?page=5
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I think anyone who choses the name NaughtyBoyGeorgeMichaelJacksonBrown is a strong indication that they're not taking themselves seriously and neither should we.
 
Wow it seems seeing the bottom half of legs is not that usual. Uncanny Fans your stories on Facebook has got a discussion with loads (because the latest podcast had some). I can’t link it though as it’s a private group.

I do know an occasion when ghostly legs were seen. But I don’t know if the upper half just wasn’t seen because of the angle.

Our old shop branch used to have various spooky goings on. There was one night when there were just two managers closing up. One saw legs walking across in the basement. She saw this from the stairs but it wasn’t the other manager she was elsewhere.

The basement was supposed to be haunted by a monk but she didn’t say they were wearing robes. The basement used to be an air raid shelter during the war. I’m not sure I’d have liked to be shut down there. Interesting note there is a culvert down there. I don’t know if the water helps us to see paranormal things.
 
Tunn11 said:
Does legs with no body remind anyone else of the Fresno Walkers/Nightcrawlers? (I couldn't see it mentioned on this thread and search this thread turned up nothing)
They seem to have part of a body but also a weird movement. Not sure if they've been proved to be fake or the methodology of faking them has ever been determined?
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The fine thread covering the Californian nocturnal strollers is here: https://forums.forteana.org/index.php?threads/fresno-alien-nightcrawler-stick-figure.44917/
 
'Uncanny" podcast Christmas special that features the white shorts and legs of a young child but no body above the waist:

"Daisy May Cooper believes her house is haunted. Three years ago, the award-winning actress and writer moved to a new-build house in the Cotswolds, but within weeks odd events start to trouble Daisy and her family: phantom footsteps, objects moving by themselves and ghostly apparitions. Now she’s called on the help of Danny to investigate. Will he survive the night in Daisy’s haunted house?"

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/play/m001tqgh
 
I smell sensationalism. Even Ciaran was half-hearted in his usual excuses and his final words were "It was a ghost!"
Still ... I wonder if it'll help her sell the house.
 
Stormkhan said:
Even Ciaran was half-hearted in his usual excuses and his final words were "It was a ghost!"
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Yes - it was the usual in-house-celebrity-treatment - a bit like the sudden change with Anne Robinson on The Weakest Link as soon as it was the celebrity version - go easy on your colleagues, you never know if you might be asking one for a job some day...
 
Queen Griddle said:
I found this fascinating legs-with-no-body account on Mumsnet's current Halloween Spooky Stories thread:

NaughtyBoyGeorgeMichaelJacksonBrown 03/10/2023 17:10

This was just over 20 years ago in my late teens. It was August and I was staying at my then boyfriend's house; he worked on the family farm and had a cottage next to the farm house. It was harvest and due to weather, he was working through the night. The combining had been done in field 9 and was up there alone baling the straw alone (while I was snuggled in bed!). It was around 2am and I he came bursting in calling my name. Obviously panicked and expecting an accident I come rushing and he tells me to put a jumper and shoes on and follow him. I keep saying why, why, why but he just shakes his head and paces in the kitchen until I do as I'm told.

I follow him out to the tractor in the lane, get in and we set off. He starts giggling and says he has seen legs. You can imagine me - what legs, where, an accident, blood, are they ok, a mannequin, are you winding me up, this isn't funny, I'm tired etc. Then he explains...

He was in the top-ish corner of the field, lights on, following the straight line of cut straw when he's seen something in the field. As he gets closer he says it looks exactly like a pair of legs and boots but cut at the waist (never mentioned any gore) and they were stood up but moving, like they were doing the twist but slowly and with no fucking torso or head. And he needs me to see it too. After about 10 mins we get to the field but I can hardly fucking breathe by this point and start saying to go back, go back (I'm a lot braver now!). We're both in hysterics and he does turn round. On the way back, we ring his uncle who is in the main farm house (think we just needed an adult!) and he says he is on his way and meets us in his pickup halfway back to the farm. I get in the pick up and the two of them go back to the field. I drove back to the cottage and got inside and locked the door shaking. Only about 10 mins later the tractor comes roaring in at full speed both hop out and run into their own houses. He says it was still there but he doesn't want to talk about it and they didn't get out but got closer and could not see it as anything other than someone stood there doing the twist without anything above the belly button. I knew it was serious because the baler was left in the field and the tractor was left out and that was a big no no.

He's up a couple of hours later - he slept but i bloody couldn't and went back to finish up and said there was nothing there in the light of day. We broke up not long after (well, we already had broken up but I was still in love so hanging around in hope - remember I was very young!). And neither he nor Ed would talk about it, just brushed it off as a laugh with one of those 'shut up now' expressions. So I don't know if they ever investigated another night or the following harvest.

I hadn't heard any ghost stories about the place but I don't think there's any farm that doesn't have a history of accidents/ warning stories to stop kids playing around dangerous things. Maybe there was an old farmer who had been scythed in half in field nine. Maybe it was prank with an old scarecrow. Maybe it was a feed bag trapped on a stick in a funny spot. I did find the whole place scary after dark and heard some weird noises but that's pretty normal in an old house in the middle of nowhere. I really wish I had gone and seen for myself because I haven't seen anything else, ever.

Source: https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/am_i_b...251-to-start-the-spooky-stories-thread?page=5
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Hmmm...

'Interesting' Username aside, did this deserve such a skeptical reaction? My immediate thought was perhaps the lower half of a scarecrow that had blown into that field and got stuck on something that allowed to it sway round on the wind ("doing the twist"). In some areas of the country it is not a great idea to leave farm machinery in fields because of thefts being a real problem:

https://www.nfuonline.com/updates-a...e-up-by-9m-amid-huge-rise-in-machinery-theft/

Anyway, it seems the two men went back, saw the manifestation/scarecrow and were that spooked that they exited the scene, is that much different to many other such experiences?
 
Paul_Exeter said:
Hmmm...

'Interesting' Username aside, did this deserve such a skeptical reaction? My immediate thought was perhaps the lower half of a scarecrow that had blown into that field and got stuck on something that allowed to it sway round on the wind ("doing the twist"). In some areas of the country it is not a great idea to leave farm machinery in fields because of thefts being a real problem:

https://www.nfuonline.com/updates-a...e-up-by-9m-amid-huge-rise-in-machinery-theft/

Anyway, it seems the two men went back, saw the manifestation/scarecrow and were that spooked that they exited the scene, is that much different to many other such experiences?
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I don't think my replies were too skeptical. I did not discount the storyteller's narrative, but do feel that she was being set up.

I did refute her assumptions of why farm machinery may or may not be left in particular places.

The fact that she saw nothing and is only expressing her emotional reactions to other's' experiences does lead me to categorize this as a foaf story. She cannot give actual details of what happened as she wasn't there.
 
SimonBurchell said:
Yes - it was the usual in-house-celebrity-treatment - a bit like the sudden change with Anne Robinson on The Weakest Link as soon as it was the celebrity version - go easy on your colleagues, you never know if you might be asking one for a job some day...
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I agree that 'Uncanny' can get a starry-eyed over celebrities, such as the episodes where celebrities chose their favourite episode but contributed nothing else. But this may be a directive from the commissioning editors that the show should feature 'names' rather than something Danny necessarily wants, especially given that his book features ordinary folk not looking for more media exposure. Remember, this isn't an independent podcast but a BBC production and he will have had to sell his product to them.

By the time the episode with Daisy May Cooper was broadcast she had moved out of that house and to the best of my knowledge it is no longer on the market so it has either been sold or returned to holiday let status. I did find what I am 99% certain is the house but I had I follow a series of clues and pore over maps of pre-Beeching railways, etc. Most people won't go to those lengths, therefore I feel we can discount attracting buyers as a motive.

Yes, she has always had a keen interest in the paranormal and has attended ghost hunting events and you could certainly argue she was primed to interpret any strange noises in the house as ghostly activity. As regards the other experiences:

1. The Roman soldier sighting was by the housekeeper who "thinks she is a medium" and probably knew the Roman history of the area, so it will always be a weak one unless we hear it in the housekeeper's own words.

2. The hot tub is close to the lake itself and so the man seen outside near it may have moored a small boat thinking it was a different property or some other reason and then departed across the water before they got outside to investigate. Or, he may have been on the deck of a boat pulled up alongside and not actually on the property, but from her father's viewpoint sitting indoors it appeared as if he was on the decking. Finally, he may have been staff. But, as ever, we weren't there and he was...

3. The "whisper" in the upstairs room could have been wildlife, the wind, the timbers settling... That is, not a strong one.

4. The paintings on the wall being taken down is definitely hard to explain, although it was experienced by the housekeeper and not Daisy which would add an element of doubt except that according to Daisy it was two different housekeepers at different times

5. Hearing someone on the stairs when alone in the house is a familiar one to us Forteans and hard to explain but skeptics will point to it being a wooden building next to water.

6. The legs wearing white PE shorts without an upper body that is both seen and heard by Daisy is truly high-strangeness and what makes the episode so compelling. Skeptics will argue she was lying on the bed at the time and so was it a daydream? Yet she heard the feet pounding on the wooden floor which strongly suggests she was awake. Such a shame the child wasn't older and able to back up her experience. This one is definitely unexplained and it isn't as if Daisy needs the publicity when her career is doing so well. Rather, she is an 'Uncanny' listener like us and wanted to share her baffling experience.
 
Paul_Exeter said:
Skeptics will argue she was lying on the bed at the time and so was it a daydream? Yet she heard the feet pounding on the wooden floor which strongly suggests she was awake.
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I confess to be one of them. How does the sound affect whether it was a dream or not? I have had dreams that have been influenced by outside noise. Knocks on the door. Owls screeching etc.

I went back and listened to the segment again as I have been thinking how I would have felt if it had been me. I mean ACTUALLY felt. Just doing something completely ordinary and suddenly a pair of legs comes running in. I guess no-one could know how they would really act but I reckon I would have screamed my head off! And she has her young son with her! But she said she and her son just watched the legs as they ran round the bed. And although she describes it as very frightening, she says the sound was the most frightening part. I don't know, it just sounds a bit "altered state" to me.

What does everyone else think?

I agree that it is sincere and not about publicity though. Why shouldn't successful people get ghosts too?:litg:
 
Min Bannister said:
I confess to be one of them. How does the sound affect whether it was a dream or not? I have had dreams that have been influenced by outside noise. Knocks on the door. Owls screeching etc.

I went back and listened to the segment again as I have been thinking how I would have felt if it had been me. I mean ACTUALLY felt. Just doing something completely ordinary and suddenly a pair of legs comes running in. I guess no-one could know how they would really act but I reckon I would have screamed my head off! And she has her young son with her! But she said she and her son just watched the legs as they ran round the bed. And although she describes it as very frightening, she says the sound was the most frightening part. I don't know, it just sounds a bit "altered state" to me.

What does everyone else think?

I agree that it is sincere and not about publicity though. Why shouldn't successful people get ghosts too?:litg:
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From a skeptical viewpoint you might argue that the 'thump, thump' noise was external to the house and in her daydream state she associated with a memory of a child running, perhaps at school. However, Daisy states that her child watched the legs move around the room as well, so this is suggestive of a second witness. Perhaps the most challenging aspect of the ghost-from-the-past hypothesis is that the legs made that noise, whereas if they were a stone tape (or similar) recreation of a past event then why did they interact with the wooden floor? Also Daisy states she moved into a new build, but doesn't the narrative then move to 'previous occupants"? I need to check this aspect out.

But we have been here before, second-guessing the witnesses to fit our own hypotheses. Ultimately, if we are Forteans and we or someones else has researched the case in question and eliminated obvious hoaxing then surely we have to give credence to our witnesses's testimonies? Otherwise we may as well all join Metabunk and spend our time coming up with answers that are more convoluted and less believable than the original phenomena :)
 
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