No, it was just the usual boring bus trip. We didn't find out until the next day that anything had happened. I certainly don't think I saw anything out of the ordinary. but then I didn't know what to look out for (or, indeed, that there was anything to look out for).
Turkey says Jamal Khashoggi, a Saudi journalist who writes for The Washington Post, killed by a ‘murder’ team inside the Saudi consulate in Istanbul. Saudi Arabia disputes report. Post editor says if Turkish report true "a monstrous and unfathomable act.” https://twitter.com/byaaroncdavis/status/1048823719991365632
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"Turkish officials are wary of releasing the recordings, fearing they could divulge how the Turks spy on foreign entities in their country, the officials said [as they discussed the recordings against Turkish wishes, revealing how Turks spy on foreign entities in their country]"
These leaks always have the feature of all of the downsides of disclosure (burning sources and methods) with none of the upsides (no formal accusation with requirement for response at intl level, no sanctions, easy for KSA to claim is false etc)
Pro-Turkish govt newspaper: There are recordings from inside the Saudi Embassy, but by extremely curious and unlikely happenstance those recordings were definitely not taken by us and were 100% definitely not us bugging the embassy.
I mean... “dissident journo turns on his recording device before entering consulate” doesn’t strike me as wildly implausible on face.
"Apple promptly gives recording uploaded to iCloud to Turkish government" does tho
I thought the story was that his wife had access via an iPhone on the same account he’d left with her
I mean, it's *possible*. But I think under such circumstances the audio of it would have been made public by now.
It's utterly implausible if you have a nerd's understanding of Watch x iPhone x iCloud and you're aware she had the phone. No way to get the recording to iCloud.
He had an Apple watch that he synched to other devices and the cloud and he had it recording when he walked into the consulate, per @MSNBC
More likely is that careless/clueless American officials disclosed the existence of the recordings to the Washington Post, revealing Turkish bugging of Saudi consulate. Now Turkish authorities are trying far-fetched explanations to limit damage to their relationship with Saudis.
Nassim Nicholas Taleb @nntaleb
The approach to the murder of the journo by Saudi Barbaria (if details are true) illustrates the conflation the sophisticated w/what looks sophisticated.
The most sophisticated approach wd have been to use a cheap hitman on a motorcycle.
Saudis acted like academic economists.
I was thinking alone those lines today. The Russians eliminated chechen separatists in Istanbul also using their own hitmen,but more the "hitman on a motorcycle" way. Apparently the Saudis didn't want a corpus delicti, they must have thought it would save them from int'l condemn.
Wouldn't the most sophisticated method have been to have a known Saudi representative shoot him in broad daylight in a busy public area? You wouldn't be able to question the audacity of it and it would be simple and direct. The worst plan, therefore the smartest.
You’re assuming it was a cold blooded murder and not an, ahem, involuntary repatriation and anaesthesiological screwup.
A close friend of Washington Post columnist Jamal Khashoggi tells @Isikoff and me that Saudi Crown Prince MBS may have felt emboldened by Trump’s anti-media rhetoric. “Trump hates journalists and he would not react if we kill one journalist,” says Khaled Saffuri.
Bloomberg Politics @bpolitics
Saudi Arabia is reportedly considering saying missing journalist Jamal Khashoggi died in a botched interrogation. Here's the latest https://bloom.bg/2RTih2c
This is why I always bring a bone saw and plastic bags to the interrogations I do. Just in case.
Just spoke to the King of Saudi Arabia who denies any knowledge of whatever may have happened “to our Saudi Arabian citizen.” He said that they are working closely with Turkey to find answer. I am immediately sending our Secretary of State to meet with King!
Nassim Nicholas Taleb @nntaleb
Donaldo, please call the king of Saudi Barbaria again for his second version of the story.
In other words, Saudi Barbaria is saying:
"We didn't mean to kill him; we just tortured him to death"
Branko Milanovic @BrankoMilan
We have many globalization-related innovations these days:
-- A detention center held in a foreign country where you can *abuse* people w/o regard to your laws
-- Poisoning of your former agents in a foreign county
-- Killing of a dissident in your consulate in a foreign country
Police charge man, 77, in connection with deaths of Renee MacRae and her son, after they went missing more than 40 years ago on their way to Perthshire by Frances Rougvie
September 11, 2019, 12:28 pm
Police investigating the disappearance of Renee MacRae and her son Andrew have today arrested and charged a man in connection with their deaths.
The 77-year-old was arrested in the north of England this morning by detectives from Police Scotland’s Major Investigation Team and is expected to appear at Inverness Sheriff Court later today.
Renee and three-year-old son vanished while en route to Perthshire in 1976.
A detailed forensic search of Leanach Quarry, near Inverness, continues and the bodies of Renee and three-year-old Andrew have not been recovered.