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Not As Environmentally Friendly As Promised

Mythopoeika said:
True, they do have their downsides. However, apart from hydroelectric dams, the ones you mention don't use up huge tracts of land that could be used for farming. Solar is the worst for that - it occupies land formerly used for crop-growing or as pasture land.
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At least in America, there is plenty of land that is otherwise unsuitable for use, deserts and such.

Also, crops that arent suitable to being farmed by giant farm machinery can often be grown under the solar panels
https://www.agritecture.com/blog/20...-to-be-a-bumper-crop-for-agrivoltaic-land-use
 
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Mythopoeika said:
True, but we have none here. Although... some of these solar farms may eventually cause desertification. Which will then be blamed on global warming.
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Do trees cause desertification? Solar farms are basically trees, thin trunk, provides shade, spaced such that sun reaches the ground.
 
kamalktk said:
Do trees cause desertification?
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It might depend on the types of trees. Planting a monoculture of evergreens can kill underbrush and any deciduous trees that try to take root.
But yes, I take your point.
 
Mythopoeika said:
Different story over here. The UK doesn't have much land to spare.
By comparison, each state In the US (barring maybe a couple of exceptions) has lots of land for all kinds of uses.
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Well, we do have some though. Unfortunately the current financial incentives favour repurposing productive farmland rather than, for example, marshland or linksland.
 
Tunn11 said:
My car at least does have a handbrake it just sets when you stop and releases when you pull away. There is a switch on the consul to put it on and release it.

I actually prefer a "proper" handbrake
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Our dealership told us the horror story of a woman who had a courtesy car and couldn’t pull out at the roundabout because it had an automatic break that she hadn’t been told how it worked. Poor woman.
 
MorningAngel said:
Our dealership told us the horror story of a woman who had a courtesy car and couldn’t pull out at the roundabout because it had an automatic break that she hadn’t been told how it worked. Poor woman.
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The, to my mind dangerous fuel/environment saving device that I always turn off is the engine cut out and "automatic" re start.* OK if you are waiting at lights but trying to pull out into traffic the delay while the engine starts is enough to get you T boned.

*Neatly gettingback on topic :wink2:
 
Tunn11 said:
The, to my mind dangerous fuel/environment saving device that I always turn off is the engine cut out and "automatic" re start.* OK if you are waiting at lights but trying to pull out into traffic the delay while the engine starts is enough to get you T boned.

*Neatly gettingback on topic :wink2:
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All these ‘improvements’ don’t seem to be.
 
Tunn11 said:
My car at least does have a handbrake it just sets when you stop and releases when you pull away. There is a switch on the consul to put it on and release it.

I actually prefer a "proper" handbrake
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But that misses the point. Will it deploy in an emergency if the car is still moving? If not it doesn't count as a second brake.
 
Cochise said:
But that misses the point. Will it deploy in an emergency if the car is still moving? If not it doesn't count as a second brake.
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I have a mk7 Golf without a traditional handbrake but there is a handbrake function.If I need to use the handbrake while moving then I can by pulling up the silver coloured part and keeping it pulled up. FDA669CC-84DD-4F79-B3AC-94B7572A98D6.jpeg
 
Cochise said:
But that misses the point. Will it deploy in an emergency if the car is still moving? If not it doesn't count as a second brake.
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Never tried, it should. Theb switch should enable it to work in the same way that pulling on a handbrake would. I'll give it a go at low speed and see what happens
 

Amid explosive demand, America is running out of power​

AI and the boom in clean-tech manufacturing are pushing America’s power grid to the brink. Utilities can’t keep up.​


Vast swaths of the United States are at risk of running short of power as electricity-hungry data centers and clean-technology factories proliferate around the country, leaving utilities and regulators grasping for credible plans to expand the nation’s creaking power grid.

In Georgia, demand for industrial power is surging to record highs, with the projection of electricity use for the next decade now 17 times what it was only recently. Arizona Public Service, the largest utility in that state, is also struggling to keep up, projecting it will be out of transmission capacity before the end of the decade absent major upgrades.

The soaring demand is touching off a scramble to try to squeeze more juice out of an aging power grid while pushing commercial customers to go to extraordinary lengths to lock down energy sources, such as building their own power plants.

“When you look at the numbers, it is staggering,” said Jason Shaw, chairman of the Georgia Public Service Commission, which regulates electricity. “It makes you scratch your head and wonder how we ended up in this situation. How were the projections that far off? This has created a challenge like we have never seen before.”

The power crunch imperils their ability to supply the energy that will be needed to charge the millions of electric cars and household appliances required to meet state and federal climate goals.

https://web.archive.org/web/2024030...om/business/2024/03/07/ai-data-centers-power/

maximus otter
 
maximus otter said:

Amid explosive demand, America is running out of power​

AI and the boom in clean-tech manufacturing are pushing America’s power grid to the brink. Utilities can’t keep up.​


Vast swaths of the United States are at risk of running short of power as electricity-hungry data centers and clean-technology factories proliferate around the country, leaving utilities and regulators grasping for credible plans to expand the nation’s creaking power grid.

In Georgia, demand for industrial power is surging to record highs, with the projection of electricity use for the next decade now 17 times what it was only recently. Arizona Public Service, the largest utility in that state, is also struggling to keep up, projecting it will be out of transmission capacity before the end of the decade absent major upgrades.

The soaring demand is touching off a scramble to try to squeeze more juice out of an aging power grid while pushing commercial customers to go to extraordinary lengths to lock down energy sources, such as building their own power plants.

“When you look at the numbers, it is staggering,” said Jason Shaw, chairman of the Georgia Public Service Commission, which regulates electricity. “It makes you scratch your head and wonder how we ended up in this situation. How were the projections that far off? This has created a challenge like we have never seen before.”

The power crunch imperils their ability to supply the energy that will be needed to charge the millions of electric cars and household appliances required to meet state and federal climate goals.

https://web.archive.org/web/2024030...om/business/2024/03/07/ai-data-centers-power/

maximus otter
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This is the real issue, not climate change.
I don't understand why people are avoiding the real solution.


*whisper* The solution? It's nuclear.
 
Mythopoeika said:
This is the real issue, not climate change.
I don't understand why people are avoiding the real solution.


*whisper* The solution? It's nuclear.
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I don't understand this comment. Climate change is still a very REAL issue that results in greater power usage.
There is not a simple single "solution" for this.
 
It's not nuclear..

I doubt very much that there is an embargo on not bombing power plants to bring a country to its knees. It is a very comprehensive threat.
 
Sharon Hill said:
I don't understand this comment. Climate change is still a very REAL issue that results in greater power usage.
There is not a simple single "solution" for this.
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More people requiring more charge for more devices, cars etc. Weather is nothing compared to all modern families now needing a continual use of resources and power for charging devices and a fridge that now somehow needs an internet connection. Climate has fluctuated throughout history. Population has massively increased. Reduce the world’s population by half and that’s going a long way to a ‘single solution’ to the problem.
 
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Sharon Hill said:
I don't understand this comment. Climate change is still a very REAL issue that results in greater power usage.
There is not a simple single "solution" for this.
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Serious question. Why does climate change result in more power usage?

I would think the solution is to build more power stations. The PTB know that so why haven't they done that already?
 
It may be down to the lead in times for permissions, land registry and years of build completion which would probably outsee the popularity of the government planning it. In other words, they’d be out out before they can claim any benefit. Short termism versus long term gain.
 
kesavaross said:
Serious question. Why does climate change result in more power usage?

I would think the solution is to build more power stations. The PTB know that so why haven't they done that already?
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Air conditioning usage, for one thing.

Also things like electric cars shift the energy needed for use from having been produced 65+ million years ago (aka dead dinosaurs aka petrol), to having to produce that energy now.
 
Analogue Boy said:
It may be down to the lead in times for permissions, land registry and years of build completion which would probably outsee the popularity of the government planning it. In other words, they’d be out out before they can claim any benefit. Short termism versus long term gain.
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That's the problem the world over in a nutshell. The electric car is a perfect example of that. It is not a solution, it is simply creating a different problem that will need yet another solution which will then create yet another different problem.
 
kamalktk said:
Air conditioning usage, for one thing.

Also things like electric cars shift the energy needed for use from having been produced 65+ million years ago (aka dead dinosaurs aka petrol), to having to produce that energy now.
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Then stop producing electric cars. Search instead for a different solution. There was an inventor during the 90's that made an engine that ran on water. It converted the water to hydrogen. He drove across America using about 20 gallons of water. Those in the energy business scared him off from pursuing his invention further. So much for all things 'green'.

On a different note, the theory that oil comes from shale, etc, seems to be increasingly coming under doubt. Some wells that only had a short's life span keep producing oil. There's one near where I live knick named the Gatwick Gusher. It's near Gatwick Airport, UK. It was only supposed to produce oil for a few years yet 10 odd years later, they're still pumping oil.
 
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kesavaross said:
Then stop producing electric cars. Search instead for a different solution. There was an inventor during the 90's that made an engine that ran on water. It converted the water to hydrogen. He drove across America using about 20 gallons of water. Those in the energy business scared him off from pursuing his invention further. So much for all things 'green'.

On a different note, the theory that oil comes from shale, etc, seems to be increasingly coming under doubt. Some wells that only had a short's life span keep producing oil. There's one near where I live knick named the Gatwick Gusher. It's near Gatwick Airport, UK. It was only supposed to produce oil for a few years yet 10 odd years later, they're still pumping oil.
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My usual request - got a link for this?
 
hunck said:
My usual request - got a link for this?
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No. If I made links for everything I came across I'd need another computer just to keep track of it all. And even then, I don't have a clue how to catalogue it all. I checked it out at the time and was satisfied it was genuine. I also read about it in a Nexus magazine that gave numerous sources for the article including his daughter who had begged her father to just drop it before he ended up dead. So he stopped any further pursuing of his invention.

Sometimes, maybe do your own research as well. I do. So can you. The question is will you?

I keep coming across this problem. I say frequently to do your own research but people in general won't. Why? It's not complex unless the person relies on Google or worse still, the BBC, which is heavily censored and controlled. No real research based on Google searches is worth reading unless it's tittle tattle. Even Wikipedia lies about some subjects.

A good few months ago I said to a neighbour about the Nord Stream pipe line and to check out a ladies comments about it before it happened. Her name is Victoria Newland. She is a US political person and I don't know what office she holds, or did hold, but it is or was an important one. ( I have no interest in US politics or any politics). US politics confuse me anyway. I saw that neighbour a few week ago and I asked him had he checked it out. Guess what the answer was?

I have now given up on such things. From this point onwards on this forum, I am not going to bother. There is no point. People in general will believe only what the tv or the MSM tells them. It's of course better to go with what you know and have been taught than search outside that 'box'.

A last parting question, do research on the CIA program started in the early 50's called MK Ultra. MK standing for Mind (K)Control and it's long term purpose to control what the people think via the controlled advertising, tv and the MSM. I bet very, very few will do that to any extent. I also bet that quite a few on here know all about it but are keeping quiet.

For me, that is my last post on such things. It's not in keeping with this forum. I prefer things 'time slip' and 'UFO' which fascinate me. Also ghosts, another enigma along with general forteana.
 
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I can confirm the story. It was reported that a man had created a car engine that ran on water but he faced an industry that would rather he hadn’t. Nexus printed the saga so that’s a good bet for doing your research.
 
MorningAngel said:

Craig Phillips: TV star shaken after Jaguar brakes fail during drive​


https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-68514718
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Just like the runaway the police had to shepherd off the motorway recently…
A runaway electric car had to be boxed in between police cars after an electrical fault left the driver unable to brake on a motorway.
The driver of the Jaguar I-Pace had been travelling on the M58 at about 14:15 GMT on Wednesday before calling police to plead for help.
Officers were able to escort the car on to the M57 and then the M62.
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We’ve all had computer problems. We all know they’re a common occurence. That’s always going to be a point of failure potentially leaving you helpless in a speeding death trap.
 
Analogue Boy said:
Just like the runaway the police had to shepherd off the motorway recently…

We’ve all had computer problems. We all know they’re a common occurence. That’s always going to be a point of failure potentially leaving you helpless in a speeding death trap.
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There was another one I think I shared the other day. So that’s three, that we know of.
 
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