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Oops! The Silly Mistakes Thread

Just out of curiosity - could any Americans reading this tell me what you think the law is regarding having guns of any sort here in the UK?
I only ask because quite often (not on the FTMB mind) I see comments from American citizens which give the impression that they think that here in the UK we are for some reason allowed to have handguns, or firearms in general, and/or that the police are all armed, similar to in the US.
You can't even own a water pistol or toy Colt 45 if you're going to 'open carry' them in case someone spots you with it, panics and calls the police. This has happened.
 
You can't even own a water pistol or toy Colt 45 if you're going to 'open carry' them in case someone spots you with it, panics and calls the police. This has happened.
5his is why in the late 80's or early 90's toy manufacturers started making toy guns in bright colours rather than the traditional gun metal grey/nickle plate
 
95% correct.

Certain categories of ordinary people can own certain types of handgun, e.g.:

a) Black powder, muzzle-loading handguns can be owned on a Firearm Certificate.

b) Deer stalkers, for example, are legally allowed to own metallic cartridge handguns (the kind everyone here is thinking about) for humane destruction of injured deer, though few pursue this option.

c) Air pistols (muzzle energy up to 6ft-lbs.) are free for anyone over 18 to purchase. Over 6ft-lbs. you’d require an FAC (see above).

maximus otter
Don’t Athletic Olympic shooters get to own handguns?
 
I'm an American and I do not comprehend the attitude toward gun laws here among people who believe it is unconstitutional to limit their access to military grade weapons. But then, I'm one of those "anarchist" "socialists" who wants to destroy the country by having universal health care.

You can't even own a water pistol or toy Colt 45 if you're going to 'open carry' them in case someone spots you with it, panics and calls the police. This has happened.

5his is why in the late 80's or early 90's toy manufacturers started making toy guns in bright colours rather than the traditional gun metal grey/nickle plate
Alas, this isn't enough to protect certain children from being shot and killed by some police officers.

Kudos to Britain for not needing to arm all their police officers or clad them in body armor like we do here. :(
 
Kudos to Britain for not needing to arm all their police officers or clad them in body armor like we do here. :(
Well not all of them ar least.
Pic from the G7

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Just out of curiosity - could any Americans reading this tell me what you think the law is regarding having guns of any sort here in the UK?
I only ask because quite often (not on the FTMB mind) I see comments from American citizens which give the impression that they think that here in the UK we are for some reason allowed to have handguns, or firearms in general, and/or that the police are all armed, similar to in the US.
We're straying from topic here, but...

I was aware that rank and file police were not armed - I thought it was common knowledge even when I was a tot. I knew it was difficult for civilians to get handguns, but didn't realize it was effectively a total ban.

On the other hand, I'm perplexed by the huge disparity in US gun laws. In New York City (near me) you need very special circumstances to own and especially carry handguns if you're not police or in a private security firm (high-profile individuals fearing attacks, jobs involving large amounts of money/valuables, etc.). But while visiting Arizona I was surprised to see a man on a motorcycle wearing six-guns on his hips - legally.

By the way, what's the law, generally, about toy guns in the UK? In the US, most toy guns these days have to be brightly colored, or at least have to have a bright colored nozzle, to avoid being mistaken for the real thing. It wasn't always that way: I remember once going to a Halloween costume party in New Jersey circa 1980 dressed as a 1920s gangster, with a 1960s-vintage toy gun in a borrowed shoulder holster. I was surprised that another guest was concerned that the gun was real; jumping to that kind of conclusion seemed alien to me.
 
As a kid, I bought a toy Colt .45 and was very disappointed when opening the box at home to find it was beige. Still, a tin of black Air-Fix paint later...
Silver paint mixed with black and a bit of blue would have given the perfect shade of gunmetal.
 
Yup, it's not the case that the British police are not armed. Officers on the beat aren't but can call up armed back-up.
That makes sense to me. Some situations are potentially lethal to police officers and in those situations they need a more robust defense.

I wish, though, that we had some similar moderation over here instead of our fetishistic obsession with deadly arms. :(
It's one thing to make a silly mistake, it's another to make a silly mistake and kill someone.
 
That makes sense to me. Some situations are potentially lethal to police officers and in those situations they need a more robust defense.

I wish, though, that we had some similar moderation over here instead of our fetishistic obsession with deadly arms. :(
It's one thing to make a silly mistake, it's another to make a silly mistake and kill someone.
When I'm out cycling or driving, I might have a disagreement with another road user where angry words are exchanged. While this might be unpleasant it's no worse than playground bickering.

However, in certain countries one could be shot over such a random spat. What a terrifying thought. I don't know how people live with that.
 
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By the way, what's the law, generally, about toy guns in the UK? In the US, most toy guns these days have to be brightly colored, or at least have to have a bright colored nozzle, to avoid being mistaken for the real thing.

36 Manufacture, import and sale of realistic imitation firearms:

(1) A person is guilty of an offence if—

(a) he manufactures a realistic imitation firearm;
(b) he modifies an imitation firearm so that it becomes a realistic imitation firearm;
(c) he sells a realistic imitation firearm; or
(d) he brings a realistic imitation firearm into Great Britain or causes one to be brought into Great Britain.

https://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/2006/38/section/36

38 Meaning of “realistic imitation firearm”:

(1) In sections 36 and 37 “realistic imitation firearm” means an imitation firearm which—

(a) has an appearance that is so realistic as to make it indistinguishable, for all practical purposes, from a real firearm; and
(b) is neither a de-activated firearm nor itself an antique.

(2) For the purposes of this section, an imitation firearm is not (except by virtue of subsection (3)(b)) to be regarded as distinguishable from a real firearm for any practical purpose if it could be so distinguished only—

(a) by an expert;
(b) on a close examination; or
(c) as a result of an attempt to load or to fire it.

https://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/2006/38/section/38

maximus otter
 
I'm an American and I do not comprehend the attitude toward gun laws here among people who believe it is unconstitutional to limit their access to military grade weapons. But then, I'm one of those "anarchist" "socialists" who wants to destroy the country by having universal health care.
Burn the witch!
 
A Florida town sold off a municipal building, unaware they were selling off their municipal water tower as well.
Florida town accidentally sells municipal water tower

A small town in Florida accidentally sold its water tower in a blundered real estate transaction.

A businessman purchased a municipal building underneath the city of Brooksville’s water tower last April for $55,000 with the goal of converting it into a gym. However, when Bobby Read went to the county to get an address for his new business location, he was told the parcel he bought included the entire water tower site ...

Luckily for the town, Read was willing to give it back. County records show he transferred the water tower back to Brooksville through a warranty deed last month. ...

City Manager Mark Kutney blamed the use of a bad legal description for what happened. The city’s redevelopment agency director resigned after the accidental sale. ...
FULL STORY: https://apnews.com/article/fl-state-wire-florida-oddities-06eafdb630de8b57ffdefd0a947cb7cf
 
Uh-oh! It's mutating. It's only a matter of time until more Florida Town headlines appear. Then come the memes. The documentaries. The increased popcorn sales.
 
I'm an American and I do not comprehend the attitude toward gun laws here among people who believe it is unconstitutional to limit their access to military grade weapons. But then, I'm one of those "anarchist" "socialists" who wants to destroy the country by having universal health care.




Alas, this isn't enough to protect certain children from being shot and killed by some police officers.

Kudos to Britain for not needing to arm all their police officers or clad them in body armor like we do here. :(

Here in the UK, as you'll know, there is no common culture of gun-carrying. We don't own them, we don't feel we need them, we hardly even think about them.

Guns are legally held by certain parties for sport or work but a farmer, for example, who can own a shotgun can't buy an assault rifle.

We're not perfect - Britain has had American-style spree killings over the years. Many Brits could probably recall and name them, they're so unusual.
But we certainly don't expect to hear about them happening most weeks or have to design schools with 'anti-shooter' features.

Seriously, not being flippant here: how do Americans deal with the knowledge that any stranger they encounter might have a gun and shoot them? :dunno:
 
Here in the UK, as you'll know, there is no common culture of gun-carrying. We don't own them, we don't feel we need them, we hardly even think about them.

Guns are legally held by certain parties for sport or work but a farmer, for example, who can own a shotgun can't buy an assault rifle.

We're not perfect - Britain has had American-style spree killings over the years. Many Brits could probably recall and name them, they're so unusual.
But we certainly don't expect to hear about them happening most weeks or have to design schools with 'anti-shooter' features.

Seriously, not being flippant here: how do Americans deal with the knowledge that any stranger they encounter might have a gun and shoot them? :dunno:
This post from @ramonmercado is case in point https://forums.forteana.org/index.p...-responses-disruptions-etc.67104/post-2079117
Someone in Atlanta, Georgia shooting someone over a row about a face mask, how fecking petty and it cost someone their life :(
 
Here in the UK, as you'll know, there is no common culture of gun-carrying. We don't own them, we don't feel we need them, we hardly even think about them.
[. . .]
Seriously, not being flippant here: how do Americans deal with the knowledge that any stranger they encounter might have a gun and shoot them? :dunno:
1. I think my brain is calibrated for the UK, as I too do not own guns, or feel I need them, and hardly think of them.
2. I don't believe we really deal with the knowledge that any stranger we encounter could have a gun. It's called "being in a state of denial."
 
A parachutist has left several people injured after he got tangled in wires at the Allianz Stadium during the game between Germany and France.

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"Several people have been taken to hospital to receive treatment for injuries caused by a protester who parachuted into the Allianz Arena during France's win over Germany.

European football's governing body Uefa said "law authorities will take the necessary action" for what it called a "reckless and dangerous" act.

Debris fell on to the pitch and stands when the parachutist got tangled in wires carrying an overhead camera.

The man landed heavily on the pitch."

https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/57488478
 
1. I think my brain is calibrated for the UK, as I too do not own guns, or feel I need them, and hardly think of them.
2. I don't believe we really deal with the knowledge that any stranger we encounter could have a gun. It's called "being in a state of denial."

I sometimes try to think of something we Brits have to put up with that affects everyone directly or indirectly, costs a fortune, is hotly debated, makes us look look pitiful to other countries...

I can only come up with the royals, who generally only shoot wildlife or carefully-raised hapless game.
 
I sometimes try to think of something we Brits have to put up with that affects everyone directly or indirectly, costs a fortune, is hotly debated, makes us look look pitiful to other countries...

I can only come up with the royals, who generally only shoot wildlife or carefully-raised hapless game.
Queuing?
 
It's also deeply satisfactory to let someone pop through if they only have a few items, or if they're paying for fuel and you have a huge basket full of cut-price rotting food that you've already resigned yourself to being poisoned by so a couple of minutes more probably won't make any difference...

*cough*
 
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