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As mentioned earlier, it's masking tape, she'd be free in 5 seconds. My parent's have worse photos of me.
 

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It's so 'not funny', I'm inclined to wonder if the fake story isn't a cover for this rather horrible image. While there is something in what you say, this is not a subject for any kind of a joke - and if someone is asking me to consider it to be a joke, I'm going to be suspicious. If someone taped one of my daughters down 'for a joke' and posted it on the 'net, it's entirely possible they'd never find the body and I'd have been somewhere else, with impeccable witnesses. Just jokin' obviously. Haha.
I suggested it was bad judgment, not that it was funny. Bad judgment, and -given the quote on the image - possibly a misguided attempt at humor, as.opposed to evidence of a child trafficking plot.

Am I to infer from your post that you suspect me of something now? If so, can you please be specific so we can try to clear this up through proper channels. I don't like leaving an accusation hanging there.
 

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For reasons I can't put my finger on, the creation of Slenderman keeps nagging at me. This reminds me of it, somehow
That's an interesting parallel.

Another parallel that occurs to me comes from ten or so years ago when I was still naive enough to believe that bloggers might make a positive difference to political life in the UK. Instead, the leading political blog to emerge purported to be anti-establishment, but quickly became a right-wing attack blog with a vile free-for-all in the comments (thinking about it, I think it was that experience of watching the decline and fall of political blogging from a decently civilised exchange of opposing views to the tone set by the sewer of Guido Fawkes that has made me so concerned about the political threads here. But I digress...). That site kept insisting, along with constant homophobic innuendo, that there were photos showing former Prime Minister Gordon Brown in poses that were simultaneously sexualised and infantilised. The sock-puppets regular commenters below-the-line kept these rumours alive. It seems no smear is de trop for the less scrupulous political operators in the UK and, indeed, across the pond.

But there is yet another parallel that springs to mind: in amongst all the many scrupulously documented genuine outrages and horrors described in GULAG Archipelago, there is a seemingly throwaway line about Party leaders having young children in convenient positions under their desks, forced to perform sexual acts on the grandees. Given the sober truth of everything else Solzhenitsyn described in that book - and part of its power, at least in translation, is the understated, even tone of the narration: he studiously eschews hyperbole everywhere else - and the enormity of the system at the top of which these people stood, why would he choose to embellish their evil still further? So can we take that line at face value? Beria, certainly, was notorious for favouring underage girls, and there are truly horrible accounts of his subordinates having to make their own children available to him, in the certain knowledge of his intentions. Given what else the Communist hierarchy was capable of doing, why would they be put off breaking this particular taboo?

It's not even as if the CPSU was uniquely murderous - there were plenty of other 20th century totalitarian regimes that experienced no obvious qualms in doing away with their own citizens. It may seem a leap to go from totalitarian regimes to what we are pleased to call democracies, and still there's the Belgian scandal that allegedly implicates politicians from that country, and there are rumours that continue to swirl around various recently deceased politicians in the UK. Despite my second paragraph, I can't quite quell the nagging suspicion that there may well be embers of fire underneath all the smoke.
 
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That's an interesting parallel.

Another parallel that occurs to me comes from ten or so years ago when I was still naive enough to believe that bloggers might make a positive difference to political life in the UK. Instead, the leading political blog to emerge purported to be anti-establishment, but quickly became a right-wing attack blog with a vile free-for-all in the comments (thinking about it, I think it was that experience of watching the decline and fall of political blogging from a decently civilised exchange of opposing views to the tone set by the sewer of Guido Fawkes that has made me so concerned about the political threads here. But I digress...). That site kept insisting, along with constant homophobic innuendo, that there were photos showing former Prime Minister Gordon Brown in poses that were simultaneously sexualised and infantilised. The sock-puppets regular commenters below-the-line kept these rumours alive. It seems no smear is de trop for the less scrupulous political operators in the UK and, indeed, across the pond.

But there is yet another parallel that springs to mind: in amongst all the many scrupulously documented genuine outrages and horrors described in GULAG Archipelago, there is a seemingly throwaway line about Party leaders having young children in convenient positions under their desks, forced to performing sexual acts on the grandees. Given the sober truth of everything else Solzhenitsyn described in that book - and part of its power, at least in translation, is the understated, even tone of the narration: he studiously eschews hyperbole everywhere else - and the enormity of the system at the top of which these people stood, why would he choose to embellish their evil still further? So can we take that line at face value? Beria, certainly, was notorious for favouring underage girls, and there are truly horrible accounts of his subordinates having to make their own children available to him, in the certain knowledge of his intentions. Given what else the Communist hierarchy was capable of doing, why would they be put off breaking this particular taboo?

It's not even as if the CPSU was uniquely murderous - there were plenty of other 20th century totalitarian regimes that experienced no obvious qualms in doing away with their own citizens. It may seem a leap to go from totalitarian regimes to what we are pleased to call democracies, and still there's the Belgian scandal that allegedly implicates politicians from that country, and there are rumours that continue to swirl around various recently deceased politicians in the UK. Despite my second paragraph, I can't quite quell the nagging suspicion that there may well be embers of fire underneath all the smoke.
In response to your last paragraph, K, while I don't have your vast political knowledge, I do understand what you mean about smoke and embers.

I've never had any doubt such activities exist in some form (though why there should be so many pedophiles is beyond me). I tend to think it's because power-mad people seek power like a drug, and abuse of a vulnerable population is, I suppose, an easy way for the power-mad to get their fix. That's the only way I can make sense of it. Even some of the most hardened criminals draw the line when it comes to child molestors.

What I tend to disbelieve is that such organizations operate on a large scale while communicating through hints and signs. It just seems illogical. In terms of organized crime, even a moderately successful drug dealer operates by word of mouth, not hints in wall art. And such activities as suggested by pizzagate would be much higher stakes - like spend the rest of your natural life in prison stakes.

In short - I 've no doubt that it happens, but I'm not at all convinced that it happens the way conspiracy theorists seem to think it does.
 

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I suggested it was bad judgment, not that it was funny. Bad judgment, and -given the quote on the image - possibly a misguided attempt at humor, as.opposed to evidence of a child trafficking plot.

Am I to infer from your post that you suspect me of something now? If so, can you please be specific so we can try to clear this up through proper channels. I don't like leaving an accusation hanging there.
I don't suspect you of anything, not at all, I was responding to this:

, it was probably someone's idea of a joke.
No accusation aimed at you, just what I think of such a 'joke'.
 

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You do know it's 4chan just trolling people on the internet right and that they have a track record for doing things like this.
 

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Well, some guy with a gun just got arrested at the pizza shop.

http://www.thedailybeast.com/articl...izzeria-caught-up-in-alt-right-fake-news.html
News is reporting that he fired a shot inside the pizza place as well.

http://www.nbcwashington.com/news/l...ed-at-Comet-Ping-Pong-in-NW-DC-404634716.html
'Kin Ell !! ... I can't see that place staying open for much longer. I wonder what Tripadvisor has to say about the place? *scuttles off to trip advisor*

edit: here we go

https://www.tripadvisor.co.uk/Resta..._Pong-Washington_DC_District_of_Columbia.html
 

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Brief details of a videoconference interview with the gunman from inside jail

He drove 350 miles from his hometown to Washington but seems unable to tell why he shot a military-style assault rifle inside the pizza restaurant.

Mr. Welch, the father of two daughters, said he woke up Sunday morning and told his family he had some things to do. He left “Smallsbury,” a nickname for his hometown, for the 350-mile drive to Washington with the intention of giving the restaurant a “closer look” and then returning home. He wanted to “shine some light on it.” As he made his way to Washington, he felt his “heart breaking over the thought of innocent people suffering.” Once he got to the pizzeria, there was an abrupt change of plans. Mr. Welch would not say why he took a military-style assault rifle inside the restaurant and fired it. According to court documents, Mr. Welch said he had come armed to help rescue the children.

Mr. Welch said that he had acted in haste and that, if he could, he would do a lot of things differently. “I regret how I handled the situation,” he said.
 

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Two conspiracy theories meet! Article by Zapruder's granddaughter!

There Are No Child Sex Slaves at My Local Pizza Parlor
By ALEXANDRA ZAPRUDER DEC. 10, 2016
WASHINGTON — On any given day, locals flock to Comet Ping Pong, a pizza joint here not far from where I live, to eat, talk and, of course, play Ping-Pong. But last Sunday, a man armed with a military-style assault rifle and a pistol turned up for an entirely different reason: to see for himself whether the restaurant was indeed, as right-wing fake news reports and conspiracy websites have declared, the hub of a vile child sex-slavery ring masterminded by Hillary Clinton.

  • The absurdity of this story would be laughable if it hadn’t led a man to bring a rifle to a restaurant filled with families. And if it hadn’t resulted in an army of online terrorists harassing the owner, his employees and others along that block of Connecticut Avenue, accusing them of unspeakable crimes and even issuing death threats.

    I’ve seen my share of conspiracy theories. My grandfather, who accidentally took a home movie of President John F. Kennedy’s assassination — now known as the Zapruder film — was implicated in some of the most delusional stories about that event: He had colluded with the C.I.A. to allow his film to be altered just days after the assassination; he had secret ties to Lee Harvey Oswald through a co-worker who later married Oswald’s close friend; and, wait for it, he was the one who pulled the trigger through an elaborate gun-as-camera mechanism at the bidding of the Jewish Mafia. ...
http://www.nytimes.com/2016/12/10/o...l-pizza-parlor.html?smid=tw-nytimes&smtyp=cur
 

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Someone says he has found out what they're doing to the kids. I suppose this is meant to be satire. o_O

 

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The Pizzagate things has been seized upon by the major tin foil-hatters with all sorts of crazy ideas about global elite satanic conspiracies and so on.

The said, the restaurateur has very odd taste in decor and has posted some rather disturbing things on social media, and it is difficult to think of an innocent explanation to one of Podesta's emails in particular.

My guess is that there may be something buried there somewhere, but it will just be sad and grubby rather than the proof of shape-shifting lizards the loons are looking for.
 

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What a load bull shit that video is.its just clutching at straws.
 

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There are many strange circumstances surrounding PizzaGate. It's easy to see why it has become a conspiracy theory.
ive skimmed through some of the instagram posts held on voat ... looks like a lot of flim-flam to me ... wheres the smoking gun ?
 

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ive skimmed through some of the instagram posts held on voat ... looks like a lot of flim-flam to me ... wheres the smoking gun ?
If there was a smoking gun, it would no longer be a conspiracy theory, would it?
 

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Why not? Some conspiracy theories turned out to be true.
 

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... theres not a lot of smoke either !
 

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ive skimmed through some of the instagram posts held on voat ... looks like a lot of flim-flam to me ... wheres the smoking gun ?
I don't think there's a smoking gun. There are some creepy instagram posts, some disturbing artwork and an email which talks about a hot tub party with prepubescent girls. It's all a bit grubby and yucky and it wouldn't surprise me if something unpleasant had occurred. The rest of it, with lurid tales of people trafficking, satanic rituals and the rest of it is pure tin foil hattery.
 

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Huge #PizzaGate News! Comet Ping Pong is officially UNDER Investigation by DCMPD!
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Hey everyone! This is great news and I just can't wait to tell you about it. Comet Ping Pong is under investigation for the Child Porn = Cheese Pizza they were selling on their server on the encrypted section of the Comet website. This is now in the hands of the Police who are doing their job! Let's all thank god for the good people at the DCMPD who are doing their job and going up against this sick disgusting behaviour by the "untouchable" elites in the swamp. I pray we see justice for this and I pray for protection for the DC Police.

 

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Here's how I picture it: "Detective Johnson, we are going to tell these idiots that someone is officially investigating because they wont stfu about this, and you drew the short straw."

Also, the guy is pissed that youtube is buffering (because 'youtube is in on it too') as he tries to stream live video from his car while driving on the highway... and he's posting his rants that youtube is censoring him... on .
 

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Article linking pizzagate to the SRA panic of the 80s and to historical conspiracy theories.

https://www.motherjones.com/politic...ing-conspiracies-so-obsessed-with-pedophilia/

British historian Norman Cohn, in his book Europe’s Inner Demons, finds elements of pedophile conspiracies throughout history. In the 1st century B.C., members of the Catiline conspiracy, an aristocratic plot to overthrow the Roman Republic, supposedly swore an oath over the entrails of a boy and then ate them. And in the witch hunts of the 15th–17th centuries, tens of thousands of people were tortured and killed over allegations that they’d performed ritual child murder, among other heinous acts.

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In this dialogue, written by Marcus Minucius Felix in the 2nd century, the Roman pagan Caecilius Natalis speaks of Christians the way Pizzagaters described John Podesta and his fellow liberal elite. Natalis is particularly incensed by the cult’s initiation ritual. The details are as “revolting as they are notorious”: New members are initiated into the cult, he reports, by stabbing and killing an infant who has been coated in dough.
 
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Sleeping dogs will be allowed to lie.

Digging up political arguments from 2016 is unhelpful.

Post deleted. Thread will follow if content posted doesn't pertain to Conspiracy.
 

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The ghost of Pizza Gate lives on.
Conspiracy theorists calling the artist Marina Abramovich a satanist has made Microsoft cancel a campaign promoting their Hololens 2.
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Bill Gates’ Microsoft Cancel Marina Abramovic Campaign After People Flood Video Calling Her Out As a Satanist
April 15, 2020 Baxter Dmitry News, US 2 Comments



On Good Friday, the holiest day in the Christian calendar, Bill Gates’ Microsoft released a commercial promoting its association with the elite’s favorite artist: Marina Abramovic, a renowned Satanist.

After a huge backlash from internet users, the Microsoft official video was set to “private” and all traces of the doomed campaign are now scrubbed from Microsoft’s official website.

VigilentCitizen report: To promote its “mixed reality: device Hololens 2, Microsoft teamed up with prominent occultist Marina Abramovic to create an art project named The Life.

In a promotional video posted on Microsoft’s official YouTube account, Abramovic is described as the “most legendary performance artist working now”.

The art project consists of people wearing the Holohens device to witness a ghostly version of Abramovic appearing out of nowhere while walking around while wearing a symbolic red dress.

In the video, which was released on Good Friday, Marina says that the project allows her to attain a form of immortality.

The Life is dealing with what is going to stay after I’m not there anymore, and I can face myself, and this frightening experience. Really like you’re facing your own ghost, but it is always this greater idea of immortality. Once you die the work could never die because the work of art can continue. In performance, the piece is only in the memory of the audience and nowhere else. Here I am kept forever.”

The video was not well received at all. After a flood of negative comments and about 90% thumbs down, Microsoft set the video to “private”. Since nothing can be truly deleted from the internet, the video was re-uploaded by other sources.

Microsoft also removed all traces of the campaign from its official website – although it still appears in Google search results:

More at https://newspunch.com/bill-gates-mi...-people-flood-video-calling-her-out-satanist/
 

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See now, that gives me cause for concern.
I know this thread is old, still nothing has been trully looked into. The now private instagram account housed many disturbing pics w insanely obvious sinister comments. Yes. This alone should of raised a few flags. Besides james elifantes name literally means lover of small kids, babies, boys. Basically.
 

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The ghost of Pizza Gate lives on.
Conspiracy theorists calling the artist Marina Abramovich a satanist has made Microsoft cancel a campaign promoting their Hololens 2.
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Bill Gates’ Microsoft Cancel Marina Abramovic Campaign After People Flood Video Calling Her Out As a Satanist
April 15, 2020 Baxter Dmitry News, US 2 Comments



On Good Friday, the holiest day in the Christian calendar, Bill Gates’ Microsoft released a commercial promoting its association with the elite’s favorite artist: Marina Abramovic, a renowned Satanist.

After a huge backlash from internet users, the Microsoft official video was set to “private” and all traces of the doomed campaign are now scrubbed from Microsoft’s official website.

VigilentCitizen report: To promote its “mixed reality: device Hololens 2, Microsoft teamed up with prominent occultist Marina Abramovic to create an art project named The Life.

In a promotional video posted on Microsoft’s official YouTube account, Abramovic is described as the “most legendary performance artist working now”.

The art project consists of people wearing the Holohens device to witness a ghostly version of Abramovic appearing out of nowhere while walking around while wearing a symbolic red dress.

In the video, which was released on Good Friday, Marina says that the project allows her to attain a form of immortality.

The Life is dealing with what is going to stay after I’m not there anymore, and I can face myself, and this frightening experience. Really like you’re facing your own ghost, but it is always this greater idea of immortality. Once you die the work could never die because the work of art can continue. In performance, the piece is only in the memory of the audience and nowhere else. Here I am kept forever.”

The video was not well received at all. After a flood of negative comments and about 90% thumbs down, Microsoft set the video to “private”. Since nothing can be truly deleted from the internet, the video was re-uploaded by other sources.

Microsoft also removed all traces of the campaign from its official website – although it still appears in Google search results:

More at https://newspunch.com/bill-gates-mi...-people-flood-video-calling-her-out-satanist/
She calls herself a satanist. Shes fully open about het beliefs yet most people pay no attention or just dont care..her beliefs are her business but shes connected w too many political figures.
 
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