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- Sep 18, 2001
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I thought Rockall was Hy Brazil?Today's lump of rock accused of being Atlantis is... *draws name out of hat* Rockall!
This medieval map shows (Hy) Brasil as slightly South of Rockall 's location, but certainly close enough to be considered the same small island given the inaccuracies of early maritime charts. It's way too far North to be confused with the Atlantean land mass (i.e. The Azores plateau).It's in more or less the right location.
https://www.ibtimes.co.uk/more-sign...ious-civilisation-found-spanish-marsh-1603470Atlantis Rising explores this hypotheses, but finds more compelling evidence in one of the largest marshes in Europe, in Donaña National Park which archaeologists have been excavating for years. This location had already been the subject of another National Geographic documentary, 'Finding Atlantis,' in 2011.
The marsh in question used to be an open bay, adjacent to the strait of Gibraltar. "This is important because Plato says that Atlantis was located adjacent to the Pillars of Hercules, the name given in Antiquity to the promontories at the entrance to the Strait of Gibraltar", Freund explains. [...]
"One of the key things I learnt when making this film is that when we say 'Atlantis', we are not talking about a particular spot, but about a civilisation. I think we can find remnants of this civilisation from the eastern Mediterranean all the way to the Atlantic. Southern Spain may have been the centre of a civilisation which spread to Malta, Santorini or all the other places we have investigated," said Jacobovici.
While the film makes an interesting case, it may fail to convince the many historians who believe that Atlantis is just an allegory, a story about moral and ethics for which Plato found inspiration by looking at cities and societies around him. Most academics believe the story of Atlantis may have been the philosopher's warning to Athens and its inhabitants not to become blinded by hubris.
This candidate for the site of Atlantis was mentioned back in 2004 within this thread (see post #45). I always thought this location made a lot more sense than most of the more commonly cited ones. It's good to know someone's finally been able to research the area in more detail.
More and more, I'm becoming persuaded that the Richat might be the best candidate for Atlantis.I personally found the fact that Herodotus' map placed Atlantis in Africa and in the vicinity of the Richat structure was compelling, especially given that the Richat structure has a fresh water spring in its center (despite every other well in the area being salty), and is of perfect dimensions in terms of measurement to fit with Plato's descriptions, and has the three rings he described. Better yet, the area may well have been washed by a huge river system about 10,000 years ago. The fit is unusually good, especially when you include the fact it was a volcanic dome (allowing for a collapse into the water), and there are traces of built structures in the Richat apparently. If all these things are true (and I haven't had time to check), then the fit is unusually good.
I guess the bottom line is whether there is any supporting archaeological evidence at the site.More and more, I'm becoming persuaded that the Richat might be the best candidate for Atlantis.
I've never thought the Richat Structure was a viable candidate for Plato's Atlantis, because ...More and more, I'm becoming persuaded that the Richat might be the best candidate for Atlantis.
NOW, yes. 12,000 years ago...? There is evidence that there was a wide river or delta leading to the sea. Maybe it became land-locked because of massive ancient tsunamis washing rocks and sand inland, blocking the channel. Look on a satellite view of the area, and you can see signs that a massive flood swept in from the sea.(2) Plato's description of circular arrangements explicitly pertained to a seaport.
(3) The Richat Structure is at least 200 miles from the sea.
I hear you, and frankly I was of a similar opinion, then I was confronted with a series of interesting facts. The now vanished Tamanrasset River system was pretty damn immense, and there are whale bones and even remains of mummified whale carcasses lying around within miles of the Richat structure. You don't find whale bones without plenty of salt water. I am no geologist, but that turned my head. I don't claim to know what the conditions in the area were like in those ancient timeframes, but "sea + huge river system" seems to be the answer. It is simply a case of ridiculous "goodness of fit" with the facts. Please watch the video and read the attached articles, as while the video is a bit woo-hoo, the supporting articles about the Tamanrasset river just pile on the credibility.I've never thought the Richat Structure was a viable candidate for Plato's Atlantis, because ...
(1) Plato described Atlantis as a seafaring nation or empire with a significant naval force.
(2) Plato's description of circular arrangements explicitly pertained to a seaport.
(3) The Richat Structure is at least 200 miles from the sea.
(4) The Richat Structure is listed as having an elevation of over 400 meters / 1300 feet above sea level.
(5) Who in ancient times could tell the 25-mile-wide Richat Structure exhibited concentric circular features? (Think of the Nazca Lines and ancient astronaut theorists' claims about visibility only from high altitude)
Apparently there are the remains of a structure present in the middle of the Richat. Of course, given that it has a fresh water spring in the middle of it (just like in Plato's description of Atlantis), it could have been a caravanserai or somesuch.I guess the bottom line is whether there is any supporting archaeological evidence at the site.
If the Atlantean timeline is to be believed, we're talking about a culture roughly contemporaneous with Göbekli Tepe, so I would expect megalithic blocks and carvings as a minimum. Otherwise Richat would be simply a natural geological feature and the Azores plateau would still be the more likely site for Atlantis.
This site claims lots of Stone Age artefacts found nearby - stone spheres, arrowheads and a weird thing dubbed the surfboard of the gods:Apparently there are the remains of a structure present in the middle of the Richat. Of course, given that it has a fresh water spring in the middle of it (just like in Plato's description of Atlantis), it could have been a caravanserai or somesuch.
Yes, and I had earlier linked to a Documentary that outlined the case for the Doñana National Park - #248.This candidate for the site of Atlantis was mentioned back in 2004 within this thread (see post #45). I always thought this location made a lot more sense than most of the more commonly cited ones. It's good to know someone's finally been able to research the area in more detail.
Interesting. If you take into account that the proposed advanced culture was spread throughout the mediterranean and further, then this makes perfect sense. Also, both the site at Doñana and Sardinia were supposedly wiped out by (one or more) tsunamis.Have you read this https://www.theguardian.com/science/2015/aug/15/bronze-age-sardinia-archaeology-atlantis? I have so many interesting aspects to be found here, that it is very interesting to follow further.
Why does that worry you?It worries me that as time goes on, this theory seems more plausible.