Would You Buy A Haunted House?

This forms the body of a recently published article--one of a series of articles about homes and nostalgia.

I can't find any more information about where the house was located; perhaps a member with more time and superior Google-Fu can turn up more facts.


At 27, I had found my Barbie dream house. More specifically, I had found four windows’ worth, and a front door shared with two other households. It was in an old converted building surrounded by fields and woods. I had been running for years – here I could stop; maybe even rest. For 28 months, symptoms of my various conditions were dampened by long walks and wild-flower identification. The flat wasn’t perfect – there was no central heating, the windows were single glazed and a peculiarly stubborn black mould splattered the walls – and I loved it. “How are you getting on in there?” the postman enquired curiously. “You know it’s supposed to be haunted.”

The couple who had lived there previously had separated partly because of the stress of the “haunting”. Saucepans appeared in the middle of the room. (Probably an odd sort of gaslighting, I thought, although that word did not exist then.) The building had been a place where women came in the mid-20th century to have their illegitimate children, as well as housing members of the community with additional needs. We were hidden away here, safe to live in ways that did not make others feel comfortable. I fed a green woodpecker; I listened to the owls screech. Safety flickered. And then it was extinguished. Some poor advice from the bank regarding ongoing loan repayments led to spiralling debt – I could no longer afford the rent.

I told a friend I would get that flat back one day. Living relentlessly in the real world, he informed me – perfectly reasonably – that this was highly unlikely. It was. The credit crunch was eating the magazines I wrote for like a grotesque Pac-Man. The classical music title I worked on had lasted nine years, but its days were numbered.

I dreamed of my former home from a suburban granny annexe. Then the flat came up for sale and, because of its haphazard conversion and poor maintenance, it was unusually affordable for a Midsomer Murder-ish Surrey village filled with Playmobil-style houses. One colleague commented on how cheap it was – forgetting that things are only cheap if you have plenty. Otherwise, they are simply affordable or not. It was not affordable to me, and it was sold.

Sometimes I visited old haunts. Ex-neighbours, now cherished friends, shared their homes, which allowed me to plod around meadows and catch up with missed trees. I was a regular at the village fete; the kind where you can buy enough Jilly Coopers and hardbacks to see you through a year – 50p a carrier bag – and, my greatest-ever purchase, a working Gaggia coffee machine for 10p that fuelled a decade of deadlines.

A few years later, online surveillance revealed the flat was for sale again. Were the ghosts on my side? I was far from solvent, but I visited the agent anyway. Several miraculous things happened: a mortgage was secured, and I won a closed bid against another couple (who happily ended up living next door). “I’m so glad you don’t mind it’s haunted,” said the agent, relieved to know I’d already lived there.

Things did move, occasionally. A jacket sleeve waved one evening. Another day, busy on a press deadline, I heard my downstairs neighbour playing choral music extremely loudly. I popped down to politely ask if he could turn it down. He smiled; he wasn’t playing anything – he didn’t own a sound system. (I’d given him his only TV a short time earlier so this was entirely believable.) He’d also seen nuns, walking; praying.

Full Article:
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2025/jan/04/haunted-flat-storybook-house-sanctuary
 
A friend linked me to this yesterday and I thought it was rather lovely.

It was in an old converted building surrounded by fields and woods. I had been running for years – here I could stop; maybe even rest. For 28 months, symptoms of my various conditions were dampened by long walks and wild-flower identification.


She seemed to have almost been welcomed to the place, or at least whatever was ‘there’ was just part of the time when she was ‘healing’ or at least in a place where she was able to relax and unwind, walk and be in nature. And she never forgot that, no wonder she wanted to go back, and I’m glad she did. The previous couple well, maybe the ‘stress’ of the haunting didn’t help with their relationship but to the author of this, it was a haven, with or without ghosts.
 
The idea of a jacket sleeve waving at me for no logical reason at all would freak me out....

I would probably discount things being moved around, due to me being absent minded and always losing things. Actually seeing or hearing something with no logical/rational/non-supernatural cause might be too much for me.
 
I would probably discount things being moved around, due to me being absent minded and always losing things. Actually seeing or hearing something with no logical/rational/non-supernatural cause might be too much for me.
In my old house, which was huge, rambling and inhabited by me, five kids and an assortment of various animals of random species - we used to say that we probably had the world's most pissed off poltergeist, because things kept going missing or moving from place to place and we all blamed each other, the dog, the cat, the chinchilla... That or we just plain didn't notice. We would amuse ourselves by imagining a poltergeist huffily swearing as they moved stuff around and muttering 'this one'll get 'em' only to be utterly ignored.
 
In theory, my answer to would I buy a haunted house is the same as my answer to "Would I buy a perpetual motion machine?" Silly question because you can't buy something that doesn't exist.

However, despite theoretically not believing in ghosts werewolves, vampires, and other such horrors, it is surprising how nervous I have sometimes been when alone in an unfamiliar house. I remember I had to make a big effort to calm my nerves when I "house sat" for my ex (before she was my ex) in her remote property in the Devon countryside, looking across a wide valley towards Dartmoor.

I suppose it's a variant of the old adage that "there are no atheists in a foxhole."

I acknowledge that there are some things that are unexplained, and that there are credible reports of poltergeist activity that have not been debunked. A poltergeist is of course not a "haunting" in quite the same way as the revenant spirit of someone who died and still seeks justice.

All that said I am unaware of any credible reports of a ghost of that kind doing anyone any physical harm.

On balance, I think I'd buy a house reputed to be haunted. I've certainly drunk in pubs reputed to be haunted.
 
As part of my former profession I used to prepare old houses and buildings (some as large as hospitals and entire schools) for demolition. This usually meant several visits and many hours alone in creepy, dark places. It never bothered me in the least and I never experienced anything notable except for one very unusual and dramatic house located on an isolated, heavily wooded cliff. The property manager warned me that she couldn’t keep the house occupied because the renters heard disembodied voices. Imagine my surprise when I first walked in and immediately heard the faint sound of ordinary but unintelligible conversations. It took a while but I finally isolated the source. It was a very large single-pane window that was vibrating in response to sounds from a very active park site about 1,000 feet away. I must admit to being a bit disappointed - like the end of a Scooby-Doo episode when they unmask the ghost/monster and it’s only a greedy, ordinary human. I’m still hopeful that I’ll encounter something a bit more interesting but it probably won’t happen in a spooky old house
 
In theory, my answer to would I buy a haunted house is the same as my answer to "Would I buy a perpetual motion machine?" Silly question because you can't buy something that doesn't exist.

However, despite theoretically not believing in ghosts werewolves, vampires, and other such horrors, it is surprising how nervous I have sometimes been when alone in an unfamiliar house. I remember I had to make a big effort to calm my nerves when I "house sat" for my ex (before she was my ex) in her remote property in the Devon countryside, looking across a wide valley towards Dartmoor.

I suppose it's a variant of the old adage that "there are no atheists in a foxhole."

I acknowledge that there are some things that are unexplained, and that there are credible reports of poltergeist activity that have not been debunked. A poltergeist is of course not a "haunting" in quite the same way as the revenant spirit of someone who died and still seeks justice.

All that said I am unaware of any credible reports of a ghost of that kind doing anyone any physical harm.

On balance, I think I'd buy a house reputed to be haunted. I've certainly drunk in pubs reputed to be haunted.
It is remarkable how sure you are that a haunted house can't exist. I've lived in one.
 
In theory, my answer to would I buy a haunted house is the same as my answer to "Would I buy a perpetual motion machine?" Silly question because you can't buy something that doesn't exist.

However, despite theoretically not believing in ghosts werewolves, vampires, and other such horrors, it is surprising how nervous I have sometimes been when alone in an unfamiliar house. I remember I had to make a big effort to calm my nerves when I "house sat" for my ex (before she was my ex) in her remote property in the Devon countryside, looking across a wide valley towards Dartmoor.

I suppose it's a variant of the old adage that "there are no atheists in a foxhole."

I acknowledge that there are some things that are unexplained, and that there are credible reports of poltergeist activity that have not been debunked. A poltergeist is of course not a "haunting" in quite the same way as the revenant spirit of someone who died and still seeks justice.

All that said I am unaware of any credible reports of a ghost of that kind doing anyone any physical harm.

On balance, I think I'd buy a house reputed to be haunted. I've certainly drunk in pubs reputed to be haunted.
The question here is not about whether or not houses can be haunted. Our issue is how interested are prospective buyers in houses that they believe to be haunted.

If they don't believe in ghosts they might go ahead and buy. If they do believe in ghosts they might be either frightened off or intrigued.

So: in the crudest possible statistical terms, the seller of a reputedly haunted house has a 2 in 3 chance of selling. :bthumbup:
 
Any strange house is - well, strange, when you first move in. Creaking noises, things rattle and bang, odd smells, etc. If someone told you the house was haunted, then you'd probably believe it. If they said 'nah, course it's not, it's just an old house', then you'd probably believe that as well.

So we might need to quantify what type of haunted we are talking about. An apparition on the landing is a different kettle of fish from creaky floorboards ('ghostly footsteps') after all.
 
It is remarkable how sure you are that a haunted house can't exist. I've lived in one.
It is remarkable how selectively you read my post.

Starting paragraphs with, "in theory", "however", "I acknowledge ", and "on balance" was intended to make it far more nuanced than you suggest.

In theory, I don't believe ghosts exist; in the dark of the night, experience shows I am not so sure.

Certainly, I accept there are credible but unexplained reports of uncanny phenomena in some buildings.

On balance, I would live in a supposedly haunted house, but I confess I would feel wary.
 
In theory, I don't believe ghosts exist; in the dark of the night, experience shows I am not so sure.
We don't selectively believe depending on the circumstances. It's either yes or no.
In the cold light of day we might dismiss our fears of the night before. That doesn't mean we weren't afraid at 3am.
 
The description of it waving, had me imagining the sleeve bent as if an elbow was inside and waving as if a human arm was doing the waving motion, rather than just a draft moving it. I mean, if it were going back and forwards and back and forwards as if inhabited by an invisible human arm I couldn't imagine it being a draft. I would probably look away and hope it stopped before I turned back.....or I would run outside....

I know - my imagination may have construed something not how it actually was.
 
We don't selectively believe depending on the circumstances. It's either yes or no.
Interesting. I see your point, I'm not sure if I agree.

Sartre argued that you can only demonstrate what you truly think/believe through your actions.

You may say that you believe you should never steal. If you are never presented with the opportunity to steal, you do not know if this is true. If you are then presented with an opportunity to steal then your actions in that moment show what you really believe. We reveal our true selves by our actions.

So if I am nervous and need reassurance in a supposedly haunted house, perhaps that is evidence that I do believe in ghosts really, despite my "intellectual" arguments to the contrary.

Also, various people (Freud, Berne, and many others) have argued that we have different parts to our personality. Freud said the ego, superego, and the id. Berne said Parent, Adult, and Child. A scientist might refer rather to activity in different parts of the brain. A doctor might point to a patient who has psychotic episodes and believes different things depending on their mental state. I could give many more examples, but the general point is that within our complex psyches, we are each capable of holding seemingly conflicting beliefs which manifest at different times when we are subject to different stimuli.

Be that as it may, as far as ghosts go, I find it impossible to accept the literal reality of revenant spirits haunting the Earth seeking their lost love, revenge, etc. However, I also know that many credible witnesses have reported uncanny experiences of a ghostly nature. I'm pretty sure I'm capable of not believing on ghosts at all, but also being susceptible to fear of "whatever might be lurking," when I am alone in the dark in unfamiliar circumstances.
 
Also, various people (Freud, Berne, and many others) have argued that we have different parts to our personality. Freud said the ego, superego, and the id. Berne said Parent, Adult, and Child. A scientist might refer rather to activity in different parts of the brain. A doctor might point to a patient who has psychotic episodes and believes different things depending on their mental state. I could give many more examples, but the general point is that within our complex psyches, we are each capable of holding seemingly conflicting beliefs which manifest at different times when we are subject to different stimuli.

For me Monkey Brain says ghosts don't exist. Lizard Brain says stay very still and then run like hell :)
 
For me Monkey Brain says ghosts don't exist. Lizard Brain says stay very still and then run like hell :)
Yup, we all hold irrational beliefs whether or not we want to admit it. Might as well work with it.

NASA has official superstitions and CERN has prayer areas and religious statues. Makes me feel better about my Lucky Pants. :nods:



Did I say that out loud? :thought:
 
This is ok; I have met very highly educated folk who may not believe in ghosts, but am prepared to offer them as an explanation for something odd.

The old cliche about scientists not having time for Forteana is very not true; this is where the Forteana starts!
 
Yup, we all hold irrational beliefs whether or not we want to admit it. Might as well work with it.

NASA has official superstitions and CERN has prayer areas and religious statues. Makes me feel better about my Lucky Pants. :nods:



Did I say that out loud? :thought:

A classic example taken from quantum physics:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pauli_effect
The Pauli effect or Pauli's device corollary is the supposed tendency of technical equipment to encounter critical failure in the presence of certain people. The term was coined after mysterious anecdotal stories involving Austrian theoretical physicist Wolfgang Pauli, describing numerous instances in which demonstrations involving equipment suffered technical problems only when he was present.

The Pauli effect is not related to the Pauli exclusion principle, which is a bona fide physical phenomenon named after Pauli. However the Pauli effect was humorously tagged as a second Pauli exclusion principle, according to which a functioning device and Wolfgang Pauli may not occupy the same room.[1] Pauli himself was convinced that the effect named after him was real.[1] Pauli corresponded with Hans Bender and Carl Jung[1] and saw the effect as an example of the concept of synchronicity.

(But personally I don't think it's just superstition)
 
Makes me feel better about my Lucky Pants. :nods:

as in Get yer coat hen...?

The old cliche about scientists not having time for Forteana is very not true; this is where the Forteana starts!

You are so right @Kondoru One of the best scientists I've known (chair of chemistry at the University of Glasgow etc etc) was a devout member of the Church of Scotland.
 
A classic example taken from quantum physics:



(But personally I don't think it's just superstition)
When I first heard about this it reminded me of the Class Stapler That Hated Me, as mentioned on the Things Breaking thread -
(Long story short, the class stapler would work for everyone else but me.)
The stapler that HATED me!

When I was 10 we moved house and I started a new school for my last junior year. This school taught in a newer way than I was used to and one of the processes was sitting in groups a tables instead of in rows of desks.

A couple of times a week the teacher would come round the tables with huge stapler to attach each kid's worksheets together into a little book.

(This was my first experience of child-centred learning and I thought it was absolutely wonderful.)

Anyway... as the teacher came round the tables with the stapler, everyone knew that when he reached me it would jam. Every single time, and never for anyone else.

It was a class joke, to the extent that he'd try to sneak up on it by approaching my table from a different direction or stapling just my work out of sequence.

The stapler wasn't fooled and he'd still have to take it apart to unjam it and take all the staples out and replace them before it would work again.

To his credit the teacher didn't get annoyed or embarrass me about it, or even leave me till last. We'd all just laugh about it.

Now and then I've heard of similar happening to other people, where they say a gadget just will not work for them, and I believe every word. Been there!
There is also Computer Scare, when someone will call Tech Support swearing that their machine won't work.

As soon as the technician looks at the computer it bursts into malicious and embarrassing life. :chuckle:
 
A classic example taken from quantum physics:



(But personally I don't think it's just superstition)
I can say that I believe this to be true. Ask anyone I work with.

I am the one most likely to be working when something malfunctions. Our mechanical tub is the most common problem, though I think most of its parts have been replaced. It is usually me for which it stops working and I always work weekends, so it is usually a Friday or Saturday that it stops working.

I rarely come into work to be told that something is not working.
 
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