Here's the real question: are those excess deaths equal to the number of deaths attributed to Covid? that was previously discussed here.
One counting... shows the excess deaths to be greater... than what are probably inflated Covid death numbers.
As for my previous post.... you misquoted everything I said.... trying to straighten it out would require a multi-page essay.... Still thinking about if I wanna bother.
I have not misquoted anything. I directly copied and pasted
what you had written, and then responded to each of the points.
Please do the same for the questions I have posed. I took the time to research and respond to each of your points. Please show the courtesy to do the same for me.
Maybe if you don’t “wanna bother” you should just not post. This is a discussion forum. Please discuss.
You and I have a fundamental difference in how we interpret the death data for 2020-2021. You apparently insist on better record-keeping about cause of death than public records can do, at least in the US. (How much would you be willing to have your income taxes go up from this point on to pay for this level of precision and coordination across many different communities?).
Doctors and coroners who declare cause of death do not, in the US, have a single form for this regulated or required by the Federal government. This single form would greatly clean up the overlapping categories. But in the US, we don’t do it this way.
If public records do not indicate only a single cause of death, then you and other conspiracy theorists here challenge this and reject the data as not precise enough to show that Covid was responsible. OK, even if I don’t agree, I do understand your point of view.
But then you are actually misinterpreting what the excess death rates indicate.
The excess death rate does not track the causes of death, but rather only how many people were known by the official record keepers to have died in some time period. So, tracking the deaths year after year show very clear and robust data and patterns about annual death rates. The excess death rates for 2020 and 2021 clearly show a very great increase in deaths: an anomaly. The only other anomalous event for those years, at least in the US, was covid. No big earthquakes, no other type of new infectious disease, etc. Not hundreds of thousands of people suddenly, unexpectedly dying of cancer or heart disease or whatever.
The purpose of the excess death count is not to correspond with the death certificate causes of death. It is evidence of an anomaly.
The conclusion is that covid is responsible for these excess deaths. I agree with this conclusion. Nowhere in US public health is it expected that the sum of all causes of death and the death rates will match up perfectly. It never has – and before covid, nobody complained that this was evidence of a conspiracy.
It seems to me that you reject the excess death rate because it does not exactly match up with the cumulative cause of deaths.
So, here are some more questions for you and the other covid conspiracy theorists:
What were the causes of the excess death rates in 2020-2021? Be specific.
Were the reports of excess deaths actually lies? Or just big fucking mistakes?
What is the name of the agency which lied/was mistaken? Why did it do this?
Why did the excess death rates for multiple countries coincide only in 2020-2021?
Do you think that the public health authorities for Canada, UK, and Australia were co-conspirators with the US public health authorities?
Did
Sweden conspire with the US about excess deaths among the elderly for this time period? (Sorry,
@Ringo)
