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Justified & Ancient
Jan 28, 2002
I can't believe we don't have a thread dedicated to him. He's on www.coasttocoastam.com right now for the next two and a half hours if anybody has access to AM radio. He had a small part in "Waking Life" if anybody has seen that, I highly reccommend that movie. Oh and Techy you would love this guy.

He has a couple of sites and I could go on and on listing his credits.



(that was all done from memory so sorry for mistakes)
I'll never forget his wonderful rendition of "Walking in the Air".
Peripart said:
I'll never forget his wonderful rendition of "Walking in the Air".

Oddly it took me a few seconds as well before I realised the thread wasn't about the Welsh pre-pubescent mop headed soprano.
I'll own up to a moment wondering what the conspiracy aspects are to the Welsh singer.

Anyway the other Jones has certainly done some interesting stuff:

On this note, many of Jones' patrons credit him with predicting the September 11, 2001 attacks in New York and its responsibility officially being laid with Osama Bin Laden months before it happened on one of his TV broadcasts based purely on the government's own information and Jones' own analysis and understanding of history.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alex_Jones ... es.27_work

Dark Secrets: Inside Bohemian Grove (2000)

In Dark Secrets: Inside Bohemian Grove, Jones and his assistant infiltrated the annual secret gathering of the Bohemian Club. He was aided by a team of British filmmakers working for Channel 4. Footage was later shown in the U.K. as part three in a four-part documentary, The Secret Rulers of the World.

While in the Grove, Jones used a hidden camera to record—among other things—the Cremation of Care ritual, in which some of the most powerful men in the world gather before a 40-foot stone resembling a huge owl (Moloch), and burn a human-like dummy in effigy of "dull care." They then proceed to "read the sign" within its ashes.


The Order of Death (2005)

Jones' latest film was released in October 2005. This film focuses on the Bohemian Grove, Freemasonry, the Illuminati and other occult orders, plus their actions, members, propaganda tactics, homosexual tendencies etc... The film is currently only available on BitTorrent, from the Conspiracy Central Tracker, but like his other films, it won't be long until it gets permanent hosting on a HTTP or FTP server. He made this film to "celebrate the five year anniversary of his historic infiltration of the Bohemian Grove, the occult playground of the global elite".

I can't believe we don't have a thread dedicated to him. He's on www.coasttocoastam.com right now for the next two and a half hours if anybody has access to AM radio. He had a small part in "Waking Life" if anybody has seen that, I highly reccommend that movie. Oh and Techy you would love this guy.

He has a couple of sites and I could go on and on listing his credits.

I,m familiar with Alex Jones thank you.

I like the way he harrases folk in his interviews most entertaining !
Heckler20 said:
Peripart said:
I'll never forget his wonderful rendition of "Walking in the Air".

Oddly it took me a few seconds as well before I realised the thread wasn't about the Welsh pre-pubescent mop headed soprano.

Damn, you all got here first.

Not that we're all predictable or anything...
he's a texan and he's christian. what's your take on alex jones? i reckon he should get a knighthood.
hang on, didn't i just pose this question and then all of a suden its down at the bottom of the page. you're in on it, aren't you?
J_Frank_Parnell said:
hang on, didn't i just pose this question and then all of a suden its down at the bottom of the page. you're in on it, aren't you?

Yep as there was a thread on him I merged it. Ditto with your posts on bird flu.
techybloke666 said:
I,m familiar with Alex Jones thank you.

I like the way he harrases folk in his interviews most entertaining !

In many ways he remind me of Rowdy Roddy Piper and how he treated his interview objects on the WWF/WWE shows in the 80's.

Ok, Piper is a bit more violent:
Cue 'Twilight Zone' theme music:

Alex Jones Detained On Orders Of Bilderberg Group
15 hours of hell at the hands of immigration who knew they were coming

Paul Joseph Watson/Prison Planet.com | June 8 2006

Alex Jones and his team were detained by Canadian immigration on orders of the Bilderberg Group for a 15 hour nightmare of interrogation, accusations and threats of arrests in anticipation of the conference in Ottawa which starts today.

The group were detained at 11:45pm last night and only released after 2pm today.

Customs openly told Alex as soon as they brought him into custody that the Bilderberg Group was aware of his arrival and that this was the reason for his detainment. All three members of the team were instantly detained despite going through different immigration desks.

Officials knew everything about Alex, even the fact that George W. Bush had once had him arrested in 1998.

"I was screamed at, I was cussed at, I was interrogated," said Alex.

Jail threats were issued as officials seized and searched through Alex's equipment for 15 hours. He was told that if any trace of pornography was found on his three computers that he would be arrested.

"They were talking about how I was a criminal - they hooked our laptop computers up and said that if they found any porn, even mainstream porn, that it's illegal to take it across lines and that we'd be going to jail," said Alex, thanking God that no trace of any porn was found on his office computers.

Searches continued throughout the night and again in the morning.

Immigrations officials seemed to take a gleeful satisfaction in detaining the team, claiming they were liars and not part of the media despite one admitting to having seen an Alex Jones documentary. Accusations of drugs and weapons smuggling were thrown around without recourse.

"You Americans shit all over us Canadians think you can do anything you want to us," said one immigration official who was acting more like a drill sergeant.

Towards the end of the ordeal national media, including the Ottawa Citizen and CBC, got wind of what was unfolding and sent journalists to the airport to talk to Alex.

A CBC journalist vouched for the fact that Alex was in the media and that she was planning on interviewing him, after also being subjected to a barrage of questions by officials.

At this point immigration officials sharply changed their attitude, reversed a likely decision to deport the team and by the end were apologetic and conciliatory about the entire issue.

Alex would like to make it clear that the immigration officials on the whole were just doing what they were told in trying to prove who Alex was and they should not be the focus of any vitriol. Alex himself admits that his behavior was not perfect and he smarted off a couple of times when he should have remained quiet. The major element of this story is that the pressure was brought to bear by Bilderberg.

The point to emphasize again is that it was brazenly stated that the Bilderberg Group were behind the decision to detain Alex and his team. Bilderberg have acquired a notorious reputation of harassing journalists, including Jim Tucker and Daniel Estulin, who are simply trying to report on a meeting of the world's most influential powerbrokers.

The immigrations officials said that their reason for detaining Alex was because they feared he was in the country to infiltrate the Bilderberg meeting.

Since being allowed to enter the country the team have been watched and tracked by several nefarious individuals and also followed by car.

The team booked a decoy hotel in order fool Bilderberg security as to their real location. The decoy hotel has been receiving numerous calls from individuals within Bilderberg's Brooke Street hotel - despite the fact that Alex told no one he was staying there.

Further reports on this incident and developments from the Bilderberg conference itself will feature here over the next few days.
What which happened to Alex Jones in Canada is just food for the conspiracy theorists on the internet. Now they can say there is a conspiracy on the Bilderberger meetings.
Friday, June 16, 2006 - FreeMarketNews.com

Was Hillary Clinton among the attendees at last weekend's Bilderberg meeting in Ottawa? Internet journalist's Paul Joseph Watson and Alex Jones sure think so. They cite "inside sources" who maintain that the Senator from New York was present at the meeting at very least on Saturday, when her schedule showed no official appearances anywhere else.

They point to witnesses who saw "a large Cadillac-style armored limousine with U.S. diplomatic plates" arriving at the underground parking garage of the Brookestreet Hotel, where the conference was taking place. The limo was reportedly accompanied by police motorcycles and added security. They note that these extra measures had not been taken for other attendees, including David Rockerfeller and Queen Beatrix, "who arrived outside the front of the building and walked straight in."

In addition to the unconfirmed attendance by Senator Clinton, a New York Sun story reports that that state's Governor, George Pataki, also attended the conclave. Watson and Jones note the history of the Bilderbergers as "kingmakers," including the fact that both Bill Clinton and Tony Blair attended before becoming U.S. President and U.K. Prime Minister, respectively. - ST

Jones' roots are in the bible-belt survivalist cultures and this tome permeates his work. I don't say this to denigrate what he says, but I think its important. like Icke he is someone who has developed a sudden intellectual curiosity apparently after the school system and you have to wonder if late awakening of imagination and erudition - no matter how possibly misguided - explain both men's earnest conveyance of what they class as facts.
The question must be is there a connection here with the crammed college essay - narrative delivery of "facts" with tagged on sources?
The same questions arise over Len Horowitz and David Icke. Do they use the bible and sci-fi alien lizards to sugar a bitter pill of science or political observation, is it in fact what they believe or is it modern grotesquery?
I have yet to make up my mind on what is, let's face it, a highly lucrative business for all involved.
I live and work in Austin and I met Alex Jones one time. This was mid-late nineties, before he was really "known" and I assume shortly after he started up his public access show here.
I was at a Hot Rod show waiting for my buddies, and this guy comes out and asks me for a light. I tell him I don't smoke, so we make small talk for a couple minutes until my buddies show up, and we go inside. An hour or so later, I see that he's doing a radio show from inside, and he's interviewing some ATF or FBI agents about the Oklahoma City bombings. At the time, all I do is turn to my friend and say "hey, that guy asked me for a light outside while I was waiting. Cool!".
Fast forward to about a week later, and I'm flipping through the channels and come across his public access show. He is ranting about something or other, and then he cuts to a tape of himself interviewing the "Junior UN" on the campus of the University of Texas. Now, the Junior UN is basically 12 year olds seeing what it's like to work with people from other backgrounds, and Alex Jones is up in their faces, ambushing them as they come out the door, and asking them how they feel about UN troops burning babies in Somalia. Of course they are kids and don't know what he's talking about and of course aren't prepared with any snappy responses.

I also saw a documentary on David Icke once, and they asked Alex Jones about him. To paraphrase:

"All of this conspiracy theory stuff is like a big punch bowl, and David Icke's lizard talk is like a big turd in that bowl."

As if to say it's all true, except the part about the lizards. That's just crazy talk and ruins it for everyone.
Google censors Terrorstorm movie?

Can anyone confirm whether or not Google manipulated viewing figures for Alex Jones TerrorStorm movie?
Jones was saying on his website that Google intentionally reduced the number to stop it getting a high ranking on the Google video service.

If this is the case, has Google done anything wrong here ?
READ IT @ http://www.disinfo.com/2011/06/paranorm ... interview/

Paranormal Investigator Richard Thomas on Alex Jones and the New World Order

An interview with Richard Thomas, author of the excellent book, PARA-NEWS — UFOs, Ghosts, Conspiracy Cryptids, and More — a collection of essays and interviews (with Nick Redfern, Nick Pope, and others) that first appeared on Binnall of America, UFO Mystic, Sci-Fi Worlds, and other venues. Interviewed by Henry Baum, author of the conspiracy novel, The American Book of the Dead.

Henry Baum: In your book, you frequently raise the specter of Alex Jones and his ideas on eugenics, the New World Order, and so on. Personally, I take some issue with Alex Jones for a few reasons, and I wonder if you could address them. The main thing that leaps out about Alex Jones is that he never raises the UFO issue — you actually interview someone at Infowars who seems pretty disinterested in the whole subject. This seems like a fairly impossible assertion to make — it’s pretty clear that there is something going on with the UFO issue, if only because the government explanation for many sightings is so suspiciously stupid. If that’s the case, and there is also a conspiracy to bring about a New World Order, then the two cannot be separated. When you look through at the NWO through the lens of the UFO issue then the NWO makes more sense – not just a way to aimlessly enslave us, but perhaps to make the population more controllable in the event of first contact. Do you think that’s a possibility?

Richard Thomas: I’ve been following Alex Jones off and on since about 2000 when I saw him in an episode of Jon Ronson’s “Secret Rulers of the World” series for Channel Four. He’s had a big impact on the way I see the world and interpret world events. However, I do agree that he is missing a huge piece of the puzzle by not looking at the UFO topic in more depth. That said, trying to get the average person to accept that the Bilderberg Group really does exist is hard enough … so I can understand why Alex Jones doesn’t cover the topic as much as UFO researchers would like him to.

More recently, however, I have noticed that Alex is talking about UFOs a lot more on his radio show. Here you can listen to him and David Icke talk about Project Blue Beam.

I myself believe that the globalists will use any crisis be it real or manufactured to further their goal of a one world government, be it global warming, terrorism, Colonel Gaddafi, or yes, UFOs.

A lot of UFO researchers tend to romanticize what they call “Disclosure”, the day when the world is finally told the truth (whatever that is) about what the US government and others really know about UFOs. I’m more cautious. I think if Disclosure ever really does occur (and that’s a big if) we have to be careful that the existence of extraterrestrials or whatever isn’t used as a justification to turn the world into a giant police state. Rahm Emanuel said “You never want a serious crisis to go to waste” and his words sum up the mentality of the globalists perfectly.

HB: I guess another way of saying this is that what he sees as nefarious might actually have a purpose. Granted, the way they’re going about globalization is a total nightmare. I just can’t shed the feeling that they have a grander plan than just profit or enslavement. I mean if you have a billion dollars, what’s 2 billion? Maybe they’re just addicts, I don’t know. But I also think all that profit might be going to black projects – sort of like the arks in the otherwise-terrible “2012? movie. That’s not a way of excusing them, but just saying that there’s more purpose to this than enslavement for the hell of it. Of course, Hitler had a “purpose” too, so there’s a lot to be wary of. In sum: do you think it’s possible that a one world government could — in the very long term — potentially be positive?

RT: No, I don’t. Lets say just for the sake of argument that the globalists have a higher purpose of some kind for what they’re doing. Maybe they know about a fleet of marauding alien spaceships heading for Earth like in the film Independence Day or something like that, and the reason they want a world government and world army is so that the Earth will be able to defend itself against the alien invaders. That doesn’t change the fact that we’ll still be living inside a giant dictatorship created in stealth … maybe we would be better off under the aliens, lol.

But seriously even if the globalists were honest and open about what they were doing, and openly said they wanted to create a world government but it’s okay because it’s going to be a democratic one, I would still be very against the idea. I don’t believe something the size of a world government could function as a democracy and it wouldn’t be long before it became a dictatorship. Which is why I believe a world government and even the European Union are bad ideas to begin with.

HB: I’m playing devil’s advocate here a bit because the globalists have really tipped their hand about the kind of world they want and it’s a bad one. But for the sake of argument – say there was disclosure of an alien that was totally benign. Given the state of the world, releasing this info could be apocalyptic. If people get this upset about sharia law and illegal immigrants, what will the American public – let alone Middle Eastern terrorists – do with a literal alien? Seen through the lens of disclosure, the Patriot Act makes more sense. Not just to stop terrorism in 2011, but to keep an eye on the total global freakout that could be coming. I’m not longing for a police state or anything, but supposing 1% of what we know about the UFO is true — that amounts to a massive amount of world-changing information. Everything that’s happened — 9-11, the war in Iraq, and so on — takes on a new meaning. So I wonder if those romantics about disclosure would trade some of their liberty for the big reveal if it meant finally getting some answers to the UFO enigma.

What’s always troubled me is that people like Bush Sr. or Dick Cheney are the ones who are more likely to know the story behind UFO secrecy. There’s a strange alignment between UFO secrecy and right wing ideology. Do you think it’s possible to have disclosure without the world turning into a police state — given the impact it would have on religious ideology and technology?

RT: Well it depends what we’re told. Not everyone is convinced we’re dealing with aliens from outer space. But if we are I suppose if they were “totally benign” and no threat it is possible to have Disclosure without the world turning into a police state. But if they‘re not, no I don’t think it looks good. After 9/11 many people were willing to give up their civil liberties to fight a couple Islamic terrorists, imagine what they would be willing to do to combat a threat from outer space. But this is all just speculation.

HB: I also wonder about Jones’ ideas on Christianity. In his Bohemian Grove video, he points out that the men are sinister because they worship “the occult.” He’s even targeted Peter Joseph of “Zeitgeist” for being part of the New Age conspiracy, as if Christianity is the one true faith. If you watch “Zeitgeist” or “The God Who Wasn’t There” it’s pretty clear that the story of Christianity is fabricated. So Alex Jones believes in many conspiracies except one of the biggest: the fabrication of the Jesus story. Personally, I’d rather there be a universal religion than saying this one book (which advocates stoning heretics, among other things) is the be all end all of religious principles. What’s your view of spirituality as it pertains to the NWO, or even to UFOs?

RT: There’s no question that early Christianity was hijacked by the Roman Empire. Christmas is as about as Christian as Halloween, December 25 was an important day to pagans. But I still celebrate it and I believe everyone has the right to believe, think, say, or do as they please as long as they don’t knowingly lie or physically try to hurt anybody else.

HB: Finally, I wonder about things like population control. Studying population growth is not the same thing as advocating genocide, nor is advocating birth control. Planned Parenthood isn’t evil — as he says in “Endgame” (which you reference). The Bilderberg conference might be totally sinister, but on the surface a bunch of powerful people all getting together to discuss the state of the world makes sense — why wouldn’t they do that? I’m not even going to get into Global Warming science, as that’s so loaded. I guess I never see in him any possible solutions — just a lot of paranoia about people who are looking for solutions. Certainly, some of these people are evil, but not all. Plainly our world is disordered, so people looking for a (lowercase) new world order might not all be dangerous.

I’m beginning to sound like a fat-cat apologist. It absolutely pisses me off that Obama and Bush are so identical and the wealthy elite are profiting off the backs of everyone else and raping the planet. They really seem to be sowing the seeds of disorder, rather than sustainability. If you’re not paranoid, you’re not paying attention. Jones’ answer is to support Ron and Rand Paul — which I don’t see as feasible. Giving corporations even more power via deregulation isn’t the solution — i.e. Big Business isn’t any better than Big Government. So I’m wondering what your ideal system would be, politically or economically.

RT: Well my main problem with the Bilderberg Group is that most people have never even heard about them. I don’t think that many powerful people should be allowed to meet in secret once a year and nothing be said about it in the media. Thankfully because of the hard work of dedicated researchers and activists around the world that is starting to change.

I get what you’re saying about birth control etc, but there’s no question that population reduction seems to be a big part of the globalist agenda. You just have to look at the comments of people like Prince Philip or Ted Turner and others.

“In the event that I am reincarnated, I would like to return as a deadly virus, in order to contribute something to solve overpopulation.” — Prince Phillip, Duke of Edinburgh, in the foreword to If I Were an Animal

“A total population of 250 to 300 million people, a 95% decline from present levels, would be ideal.” — Ted Turner, founder of CNN

“And I actually think the world will be much better when there’s only 10 or 20 percent of us left.” — Dr. Eric Pianka, University of Texas biologist

What kind of system would I like?

First I think its important to stress I don’t believe in Utopia. There’s no such thing, you’ll never have a perfect world and every attempt at creating one has always led to mass slaughter and tyranny. I think we need to recognize that first.

I think the founders of the United States had some good ideas. Things like a written constitution that protected the freedom of speech and other rights of the people, and an educated, informed public who could understand what that constitution said. Now, of course, even the early United States had its problems, slavery being a big one. But I think that’s a good place to start. But if readers want to disagree with me … great … it’s called freedom. Hopefully we can all agree on that.

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Nothing like waiting for facts. Years of investigation of this event will be dismissed by lunatic fringe as elaborate plot to hire more cops or some other crazy idea. I am going to go the other way and predict its some internet nuts who got together for tin foil hat parties where they pumped each other up with anti government rhetoric and they escalated. There are alot people online who have flat out lost their minds, now they can meet friends. I am going with domestic though as first instinct. Could be the muslims again, maybe, and a super long shot the North Koreans. To suggest the US did it themselves is of course pretty insane, but alex lost it a long time ago.
31 people died in multiple bomings across Iraq yesterday. I wonder if there is an Iraqi version of Alex Jones denying the offical story of "Sunni Islamist militants"?
Could be anybody, maybe Al Quaieda, or maybe crazy gun totin' NRA preppers, fired up on the likes of Alex Jones's toxic bullshit.