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Alien Big Cats ('ABCs')

In your opinion what are alien big cats most likely to be?

  • Escapees from collections, breeding in the UK countryside

    Votes: 57 48.3%
  • A species of endemic British big cat somehow overlooked by science

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Zooform Phenomena - animal-shaped manifestations of paranormal activity

    Votes: 6 5.1%
  • Misidentifications of big dogs, normal cats etc

    Votes: 28 23.7%
  • A big hoax

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Summat else

    Votes: 4 3.4%
  • All of the above

    Votes: 23 19.5%

  • Total voters
    118
Interesting...

Its interesting, as while interstellar travel for ufos is pretty shaky scientifically, alternate dimensions have now passed into othodoxy.

If someone could tell me how an object or lifeform could travel between dimensions, we'd have a working theory.

If only we didnt have to prove everything......:rolleyes:
 
I don't see it in terms of travel.

I think of it as things, kind of appearing and disappearing. The best analogy I can think of is if you tripped up on a stage and your head fell through the gap between two curtains. Those on the other side, who can't see beyond those curtains will see your head until you withdraw it. They will have seen it's physical presence and will tell all and sundry that what they saw existed, but naturally - if they went to look for it in the same place, if they were unaware of how the curtains work, they wouldn't find it. You, meanwhile, if also unaware of how the curtains operated, might be shocked and surprised as well. As we're fairly intelligent, we'd soon figure out how we did it, and so carry on poking our head through the curtains much to the frustration of those on the other side who will argue amongst themselves as to what our head is - something from another world, or a misidentification of a natural phenomenon ;)?

Sorry, writing as I think here (à la stream of consciousness) - a better analogy might be as fish. If we were fish swimming around the ocean in our own world, what shock and horror would we feel when a submarine or land animal strayed into our territory? We have no concept of life outside our own scope, so these things would appear as totally alien to us in our aquatic realm!

This can be the only answer!!

I've solved the mystery of ABCs, Lake Monsters, Man-Beasts, UFOs and all paranormal phenomenon!! :D

Do I win £5?:)
 
Well done!

Well done, I bow to your brilliance.

Critics, and other invertebrates, might say "prove it"

Damn them!

If can happen by accident, then surely it can happen on purpose...

(sticks head through curtains)
 
Re: Unidentified Feline Objects

Originally posted by Filthy le Dog [/i If they lived here, we'd have found them by now.

Sorry I disagree, most people walk about as if their eyes were shut, Im sure I've mentioned it before but nearly every time I walk in my local woods I see deer, a lot of people who walk the same woods have never seen them, even if they visit the woods more than I do.And I know that there are wild Boar in my woods, have been tracking them for over two years have yet to see one but my wife saw five of the buggers when she was 100 meters behind me!!!:mad:
 
This is different though...

We know wild boar are running free in the southern English countryside. What's more, they've been trapped and this is a fairly recent arrival (or rather reintroduction) of a specific species. We know wild boar exist - we have the physical evidence. Likewise deer, foxes, badgers, snakes, etc.

I completely agree - we've become very adept at walking around without seeing anything.

BUT...

...there are live specimens and trapped or killed examples of all of the above. Like I said - there is no such proof (apart from escapees) for British ABCs. These things have been reported in the wild for tens, if not hundreds of years. Surely we'd have caught one/discovered a den by now! But we haven't!
Why?
It can't be said we don't look hard enough.

There is more to this than meets the eye...
 
Woman says she saw big black cat




By BOB GROSS , Of The Daily Oakland Press
01/10/2004



January 10, 2004
WHITE LAKE TWP. - Beverly Immel is still excited about the large black cat she saw from her office window in December.

"It was solid black, and he was a big boy," said Immel, general manager of Independence Village of White Lake. "I'm talking a 150-pound animal, and I have to tell you he was my Christmas present. He was the most beautiful thing I had ever seen.

"He was gorgeous. It was right out my window, my manager's window here."

The animal that padded softly out of the trees bordering the retirement community on Union Lake Road was definitely a feline, she said.

"He had a long tail, kind of just like my domestic cat at home, only on steroids," Immel said.

About five people saw the large black cat that December day, said Immel; the facility's maintenance man saw it the next day.
Dennis Fijalkowski, director of the Michigan Wildlife Conservancy in Bath, believes there are 50 to 80 cougars roaming Michigan - and, despite a well-publicized report of an incident in September 2003 where a cougar supposedly stalked a woman in Sleeping Bear National Lakeshore, people have little to fear from them.

That said, the conservancy did print a brochure, "Living with Cougars in Michigan," to try to keep human-cougar encounters to a minimum.

"The people of Michigan currently are ill-prepared for a wild cougar population," Fijalkowski said. "One of our objectives is to bring them up to speed on these cougars as soon as possible."

He said the situation in Michigan is in no way analogous to California where a bicyclist was attacked Thursday and another may have been killed.

"A wild cougar population that has lots to eat ... is absolutely no threat to humans," he said. "In over 200 years of recorded history in our state there's never been a recorded attack on a human."
Michigan has a white-tailed deer population of about 1.7 million, providing plenty of prey for any cougars that might be out there. California has 4,000 to 6,000 cougars, and some are in areas where humans are starting to encroach.

Fijalkowski said California is also in a five-year drought and that has affected the number of prey animals for cougars.

The cat implicated in the California attack was about 110 pounds, small for an adult cougar, which can reach 200 pounds.

"My guess is it's a two-year-old male who is not proficient at killing deer yet and was hungry," Fijalkowski said.

The wildlife conservancy issued cougar management recommendations last spring. Among them are recommendations for hunting if the population increases to where it's feasible; for removing problem cats such as one in Cheboygan County that has killed two horses; and for running cats with hounds, but not killing them, to condition them to fear people.

"We should be erring on the side of caution," Fijalkowski said. "If there is any potential to do risk-aversion conditioning with cougars, then we should be doing it."

The sighting in White Lake Township is just the latest in a string of reports of "black panthers" that goes back at least to 1951 in Addison Township. Since then, large black cats - or animals believed to be cats - have been spotted in Wixom and Milford, Commerce, Independence and Waterford townships.
In the 1980s, at least 100 sightings were reported of a large black cat in western Oakland and eastern Livingston counties - one entrepreneur went so far as to print up T-shirts celebrating the animal as well as bumper stickers with the legend, "I Brake for Panthers."

Immel called White Lake Township police and Oakland County Animal Control after she spotted the lanky black cat prowling through the rain.

"Several people reported seeing a large black cat," said Lt. Ed Harris. "It was described as having a round bowling ball type head with pointed ears.

"The officers that responded to the area were able to see large tracks, but because of the rain they weren't able to preserve them," he said. "They had a strong feeling that the people were accurate with what they saw."

He said the township police have not had any more reports of large black cats.

Patrick Rusz, a wildlife biologist for the Michigan Wildlife Conservancy, has done research as to whether cougars are resident in Michigan - the official line is that the last of the big cats was killed in 1906 in the Upper Peninsula. He said it's possible that the animal Immel saw is one that was previously sighted in Livingston County. Children in the Howell School District were not allowed outside school buildings after one such sighting.
"I've heard that description many times of that cat down there," he said.

That the two animals could be one and the same is "what I suspect," he said, "but exactly what's going on we don't know.
"And that's our whole point: We think there's enough evidence that there should be some research done."

Rusz and Fijalkowski contend that the official line, that cougars were extirpated in Michigan, is wrong. They believe that a remnant population was able to hang on in remote parts of the state.

"Despite what you might have read in the newspapers and on the Internet, there is absolutely no doubt there are cougars roaming around in northern Michigan," Rusz said.

The wildlife conservancy has gathered reports of sightings, photographs, plaster casts of pawprints and DNA evidence from cougar scat - droppings - found in Michigan. Rusz said the cougar population in the Lower Peninsula is probably less than 50, but at least three of those animals call Sleeping Bear Dunes their home.

"There's absolutely no doubt that there's a cougar there, probably two or three of them," he said. "The evidence is that there have been cougars there continuously for probably about 30 years."
In September 2003, a volunteer at Sleeping Bear came face to face with a cougar on a hilly section of a walking trail, according to published reports. The animal reportedly followed her for 20 minutes.

Rusz said even his harshest critics acknowledge the presence of cougars at Sleeping Bear and other places. Their usual explanation, however, is the animals are pets that were illegally dumped in the woods.

That's the standard explanation for the black panthers of southeastern Michigan - that they're cougars or jaguars that someone had as an illegal pet that grew too large to be handled.
"In general, I don't buy that argument," Rusz said.

He said he's not aware of any black panthers or cougars in captivity in North America and knows of only two documented black cougar carcasses, one in Brazil and one in Costa Rica, as well as one carcass in Colorado that was not well-documented.
Cougars do, however, have a gene that could cause melanism - dark coloration of the fur.

"The black phase does not show up in healthy populations with a lot of individuals," he said. "It only shows up where there is a lot of inbreeding."

He points to an isolated population of black bobcats in Florida as an example of melanism at work in the wild.

"In Michigan, according to my theory, we have a population that is very small and subject to inbreeding so the potential is here for black cougars to show up occasionally," he said.

There are black leopards and black jaguars in the wild, but Rusz doubts that the animals seen in Oakland County over the years are either of those two species.

"I don't know of any black leopards or black jaguars in captivity in the Midwest," he said.

It's illegal to keep large cats in Michigan - and has been for several years - so he also doubts that the animals are pets released after having outgrown their quarters.

"There's just not a pool of all these cats around like everyone thinks," he said.

It is possible that the animals seen from time to time in southeastern Michigan are actually transients from the northern part of the Lower Peninsula, he said. That may also explain the normal color phase cougar spotted in September 2003 in Wayne County's Van Buren Township.

"It'll show up here and there periodically, but the nature of the beast is not to stay in one spot for any period of time," he said.
One or both of the cougars might also have come up from Ohio, where the laws regarding captive large predators are different, said Rusz. There have been documented cougar tracks in the Toledo area, he said.

Because of sightings, encounters and mounting evidence of cougar populations, the National Park Service actually has posted signs at Sleeping Bear warning visitors that they are in "Cougar Habitat."

Rusz predicts the big cats are going to stick around.
"I'm going to bet you this isn't the last time you hear about big cats in Oakland County," he said.

As for Beverly Immel, well she just wishes she had the presence of mind to remember the camera in her desk that December day.
"I was so excited that I didn't take the picture," she said. "We were so excited that we just went crazy."

The chances are extremely low that you will ever come face to face with a cougar in Michigan - the state covers more than 37 million acres and the cougar population at best is 50 to 80, according to estimates by the Michigan Wildlife Conservancy. If you do encounter a large cat - or even a large threatening dog - here are some things to do:


Don't hike alone, make noise to avoid surprising an animal and carry a sturdy walking stick.

Don't jog alone, carry repellent such as pepper spray and have a noisemaker such as a whistle. Jogging with a dog might actually trigger an attack; cougars see dogs as prey.

Face the cougar and stand upright. Try not to bend over to pick up a stick or stone.

Make yourself big. Raise your arms and open your jacket.

Keep children close and pick them up. Tell them not to run.

Do not approach a cougar.

Back away slowly. Running may stimulate the cougar's instinct to chase and attack.

If the cougar approaches, throw stones, branches or anything you can pick up without crouching or turning your back. Wave your arms and speak firmly.

Fight back if the cougar presses the attack. Stay on your feet and use whatever you can.

For information about cougars in Michigan, call the Michigan Wildlife Conservancy at (517) 641-7677 or visit the group's Web site at http://www.miwildlife.org .Source: Michigan Wildlife Conservancy

http://www.zwire.com/site/news.cfm?newsid=10784959&BRD=982&PAG=461&dept_id=467992&rfi=6
 
WAITING FOR BEAST WITH SHOTGUN


18:00 - 15 January 2004

A Cranmore man fears that there may be a beast of Stoke St Michael on the prowl. Farmer Kenneth Chislett keeps sheep and cattle on pasture near Stoke St Michael and has now lost four ewes to predatory animal attacks and, even more worrying, a six-month-old calf.

The attacks on the ewes, two of them in lamb, occurred over the last two weeks, the latest discovered on Tuesday morning.

Even more mystifying was the death of a six-month-old Aberdeen Angus calf last week, weighing in at more than twice the weight of an average adult human.

Mr Chislett took the carcasses to the Mendip Farmers' Hunt kennels at Priddy for disposal and the animal's injuries were inspected more closely once the skins had been removed.

He said: "There were large puncture marks around the throat and their heads or stomachs were eaten." He said that the hunt staff believed that a big cat or large dog had carried out the attacks on his livestock owing to the injuries and size of the animals involved.

"There have been rumours of a big cat in the Mells area" said Mr Chislett.

"The land where my animals are kept is quite close to Cranmore Tower - it would be an ideal spot for an animal like a big cat to live with the woods up there.

"I would have liked to get the local hunt in, but they are not allowed up there, so we have left the last sheep carcass that was killed on Monday night and hope that whatever it was will come back, and we will be waiting with shotguns." Mr Chislett has already tried to trap the predator but has not been successful, and has been in touch with local police prior to hunting the animal.

Any dog that is found worrying Mr Chislett's livestock can legally be shot, so dog owners in the area are warned to keep them under control.

In addition to the deaths of the ewes and calf, Mr Chislett had to have a ram destroyed recently which, it was susequently discovered, had a split in its liver caused, it was believed, by a hard impact to its body.

Mr Chislett said his livestock seem shaken up following the mystery predator's attacks and some animals that were fairly friendly before have become nervous and almost aggressive.

http://www.thisissomerset.co.uk/dis...ayContent&sourceNode=123793&contentPK=8502601
 
Big cat sighting at St Fergus

WHAT appears to have been a big cat was spotted on the outskirts of St Fergus recently.
In what is believed to be the latest sighting of the Beast of Buchan, the creature was spied prowling in a garden in Kirton in late December.
A local resident cooking supper in her kitchen heard a noise in her back garden and went to investigate.
The woman, who preferred not to be named, told the Buchanie: "We have a dog and initially I thought maybe it was outside, only to find it was inside with us.
"As I looked out over our garden, all I could see were a pair of eyes that were like saucers. It was too big to be a dog or a domestic cat, and there were no cattle or sheep in the field bordering our garden.
"When it spotted me looking out it turned and with just a couple of massive leaps bounded right out of the garden and away into the fields beyond."
The woman, who firmly believes it was a big cat, reckons it may have been attracted by the rustlings of a pet rabbit which lives in a hutch at the rear of the house.
She added: "Everyone with the exception of my mum doesn't believe me, but I am convinced it was a big cat."
There have been many sightings of this puma-like creature across Buchan in recent years.
People have claimed to have seen the beast from as far afield as forestry near New Deer to the foreshore at Boddam.
Francis Yule was out walking her four-year-old Springer Spaniel Lucy behind Peterhead Power Station in 2001 when the cat-like creature suddenly appeared from behind a rock.
Widlife experts believe such large cats could well exist in Buchan given the wealth of tree cover and ample food supply.
Private collections of exotic creatures were common enough in the late 18th and early 19th centuries. It has been suggested that big cats could have their origins in animals released from captivity into the wild.
Could it have been a panther the St Fergus woman spotted in December?

http://www.buchanie.co.uk/archived/2004/Week_03/news/big_cat.asp
 
What is in a name?

Okay sort of a question comment...

I constantly hear reports of people seeing "pumas, cougars, mountain lions" etc., in Britain, on boards and in the news. That part's fine. But it seems people use these words to describe several species of cats? Even the news (BBC) seems to do this as well... But all these names, plus 40 others, all refer to only one cat?!?!

I've seen on mboards "it's not a puma, but a panther", see contextual clues in articles that people are referring to different species of cats, using the above names, see stuff like "it may not be a puma, but a panther"... etc. I see people saying they've seen a "puma" but then go on to describe something else totally different? Or a spotted panther? Or a black panther, then refer to it as a puma, even though when people refer to black panthers (mistakenly), they mean melanistic jaguars or leopards (or a political group)? *looks totally dazed and downcast*

What are people actually seeing, or think they're seeing? It's almost impossible to tell unless descriptions are given, and even then a person will call it one thing, describe a different cat, but the news service will say "panther spotted" etc.. not to mention how can someone ID a big cat, and ID a big cat as a certain species, if they seem to not know at all what that species is?? argh!?!

Anyways, was the cat that was found 3 feet INCLUDING tail? If so, my domestic cat is much bigger. If it's body length, my domestic is about the same size... My bet the headless cat turns out to be a domestic.

Anyways... If I come off snippy or acerbic I apologize, and I realize the mountain lion is not something too many brits are familiar with, as it's a New World species. However, the use of the various names for mountain lions to refer to other cats IS a bit confusing (usually leopard, jaguar, mountain lion = puma/panther, but also seems to be generic catch all!?!). And the Brit media does it just as much as witness01 :/

(Cougar or mountain lion: a medium sized big cat, similar in size to a leopard. A cougar has short, brown hair and typically can weigh up to 180 pounds and up to 8 feet long inc. tail [although 250+ pound cougars have been shot]. The mountain lion is native to North America, and Northern South America. Hunted to near the point of extinction, mountain lions have been making a come back, and are re-extending their ranges back to their traditional borders.

*edited because while my cat is BIG, he's not as big as I first thought (2.5 ft body length as opposed to meter+) :p maybe similar phenomenon explains some sightings :p Also changed tone of post, hoping to portray my confused frustration better, rather than portray an "uptight asshole".
 
Mysterious creature baffles officials

By Chip Womick
Staff Writer, The Courier-Tribune


ASHEBORO - Denise Williams shot home video of a big black animal in a field next to her south Asheboro home Tuesday morning, touching off a flurry of police officers, sheriff's deputies and zoo staffers dispatched to the area.

Guy Lichty, a curator of mammals at the N.C. Zoo, followed the animal's tracks through a wooded area, but never saw it. The size of the tracks, however, piqued his interest.

Lichty estimates that, based on impressions made in the snow, the creature weighs 35-40 pounds, maybe more. There were no tracks in mud, where they could be more easily identified, Lichty said.

His viewing of Williams' video of the animal - and a fuzzier video shot later by a neighbor - did little to shed light on the creature's identity either, although he noted that the animal looked like it had pointed ears, like a cat.

The sighting has captured his attention.

"I'm really interested and so are several of my colleagues," said Lichty. "Whatever it is, it's likely to be seen again."

Lichty said he does not think the animal poses any threat to people, although he could not say the same for small pets.

"What I saw in the video did not look that dangerous to me," he said, "but I don't know what it is. ... I just don't think we're dealing with a leopard or a jaguar. I don't know what it is. Maybe it's a cross of something that we've never seen."

Lichty said he heard initially that the animal had attacked and killed somebody's pet dog, but that proved to be ungrounded.

Williams said she was getting ready to let her three young sons go outside to play in the snow Tuesday morning when she looked out a window and saw the animal. The family lives on Queens Meadow Court, which is near Newbern Avenue and Guy B. Teachey School, in a subdivision between South Fayetteville Street and Zoo Parkway.

At first, she thought it was a big dog with short black hair, though she'd never seen such a dog in the neighborhood. She described the animal as taller, but leaner, than a 60-pound chow the family once owned. But the animal did not move like a dog.

"It walked like a big cat," Williams said.

The thought crossed her mind that that was a crazy notion to have. She retrieved her 9-year-old's binoculars for a better look. Through the magnifying lenses, she saw a long tail, a feline tail.

"I'm not crazy," she thought. "This is a very big cat walking out there, like a panther."

Williams ran to get a video camera, afraid the creature would disappear back into the woods before she could film it. But it did not.

Then she called 911.

Zoo staffers originally looked at Williams' video and decided that she'd captured a very large, "well-fed" housecat When the creature was seen by others, including another who shot another video, they returned for a second look.

A sheriff's deputy also spotted a large, dark-colored animal in a wooded area on Northhampton Drive, near the Williams' home, according to Lt. Charles Ratcliffe of the Randolph County Sheriff's Department. "We didn't see it close enough to tell what it was," he said. "At this point, we really don't know what it is."

Jodie Wilson, the animal control officer for the Asheboro Police Department, did not see the video, but she did see some very large prints poked into the crunchy snow. She is as puzzled as everybody else.

"I don't know," she said. "I really don't know."

http://www.courier-tribune.com/nws/creature012804.html
 
FACE TO FACE WITH A WOODLAND BIG CAT


09:00 - 28 January 2004




Andy Greenwood reports on the latest big cat sighting in the Westcountry

A quick-thinking woman from Cornwall took a plaster cast of what she believes is a big cat paw print after spotting one of the elusive creatures while out walking.

Georgina Cross's sighting emerged yesterday along with news that a file on the existence of big cats in the Westcountry will be put to Defra, which has so far ignored a wealth of evidence.

But Mrs Cross, who lives on the outskirts of Bodmin, is convinced that the animal which crossed 25ft in front of her as she walked her dogs, was a big cat . "My dogs had stopped behind me and I called them along but they didn't move," 57-year-old Mrs Cross explained. "I don't know whether they had sensed anything or picked up its scent but I hadn't gone much further when it just ran straight out in front of me.

"It came out of the woods and crossed over the path about 20 to 25ft away and then went into the trees on the other side."

Mrs Cross, who saw the big cat last Thursday, believes she may have seen the same animal in the field at the bottom of her garden in September. And she is confident that it is a big cat and nothing else.

"I know what I saw was not a dog," she added, "it was jet black - like a panther, had a long body and long thin tail which was turned up at the end. I'm just sorry I didn't have my camera with me."

Despite being disappointed at not capturing the animal on film, she noticed the big cat had left several paw prints in the muddy path.

She immediately went home and then on to a DIY store where she bought some plaster.

"It was quite a misty, damp day," she explained. "And one of the casts broke as we picked it up. One of the others isn't so good but one shows the print quite clearly - it's about five or six inches across.

"People might think 'oh she was on her own' but I know what I saw. It was definitely a big cat."

WMN nature writer Trevor Beer has been collecting data on big cat sightings and researching their behaviour for more than 20 years.

Trevor, who has recorded hundreds of sightings over the years, was intrigued by Mrs Cross's sighting and the cast she took.

He said: "Clearly we'll need to have a look at the cast but the description bears all the hallmarks of a genuine sighting.

"I'm rather hopeful about the paw print. Mrs Cross did an incredible job, good on her."

The sighting near Bodmin last week comes hot on the heels of an attack on a sheep in West Cornwall which expert Mike Thomas believes was committed by another big cat.

http://www.westernmorningnews.co.uk...ayContent&sourceNode=103331&contentPK=8658708
 
THE BEAST WHO WALKS



Sightings of large predator cats in the Australian bush have been dismissed as phantoms for more than 50 years. Now, for the first time, an investigation by the NSW government has concluded that it is likely there are, indeed, big cats out there. Bernard Lagan reports.




"Night falls. In a lonely valley called the Sink, four people prepare for a quiet evening. Then in his orchard, Murray Jacob sees a moving shadow. Across the swamp, his neighbour Ronnie watches her lover leave and feels her baby roll inside her. And on the veranda of the Stubbses' house, a small dog is torn screaming from its leash by something unseen. Nothing will be the same again."

- In the Winter Dark, by Tim Winton

At night, Paul Coffee stamps his feet when he walks the 50-odd metres from his office, past the trees with deep, mysterious gouges to his isolated house in woodlands on the eastern fringes of the Blue Mountains. When his pet dog is jumpy and Coffee – witty and solidly built – has the more certain feeling that something unexplained is back, the environmental consultant will drive his Land Rover the few minutes home.

In Kenthurst, on Sydney's far north-western boundaries, Luke Walker, 18, is wary of night checks on the mailbox at the end of the long driveway to the family's bush-set home. The home-theatre installer still has the jagged gouges on his arm and torso that he suffered on a Monday night in March when he told his mother he was going to get the mail. He came back to the house covered in blood after a big animal leapt two metres and attacked him. It was no dog and far too big to be a feral cat, he believes.

Dr Robert Saltmaris, a dentist in Windsor – on the Hawkesbury River, north-west of Sydney – was stunned on a June night last year when the headlights of his Nissan Patrol picked up a big cat as he drove to his 15-hectare rural property. "It was just there by the side of the road. It was no pussycat. It was a panther and it was huge. I turned around and shone the lights back up. It was crouching, looking at us. I could see it quite clearly. There is no doubt what it was. It was definitely a panther," he says.

Dr Rex Stubbs has been a general practitioner in Windsor for 25 years and mayor for eight. He's softly spoken and not given to wild talk. He believes it more likely than not that a big cat is out there – maybe several big cats.

"The people who have seen it are very serious people. A number of them are professionals, long-term residents and people that I'd had long-term contact with. They are not the type of people who would be setting up a prank," Stubbs says.

Tim Winton's chilling 1998 novel, In the Winter Dark, drew on the mythology of big predators in the Australian bush. Sightings of panthers or pumas have been reported since the gold rush years and mostly dismissed by authorities as hoaxes. Now, an investigation by the NSW government has concluded for the first time that it is likely that the big cats are indeed out there.

The results of the recent investigation, conducted by the NSW Department of Agriculture in the latter part of last year, were given only limited public release after the investigator, Bill Atkinson, the department's rural NSW-based Agricultural Protection Officer, concluded in his report: "Nothing found in this review conclusively proves the presence of free-ranging exotic large cats in NSW, but this cannot be discounted and seems more likely than not on the available evidence."

Additionally, The Bulletin has uncovered a far more comprehensive study, led by Victorian scientific academics, that concluded 25 years ago that pumas ranged Victoria's Grampian Mountains. Their full report has never been released – until now.

The NSW finding has vindicated a small group of people, mostly in and around the hamlet of Grose Vale in the Blue Mountains, who have for a long time insisted that a large black panther or similar creature roams the streams and creeks in the more populated low country during winter when food is scarce in the higher, wilderness parts of the mountains. Locals Christine Coffee and Ken Pullen have both seen the animal and keep a database of sightings and a log of mutilated local stock – such as the mauling of goats and horses and the discovery of sheep and goat remains in trees.

Christine and Paul Coffee can point to long, deep gashes high on the trunks of trees on their property and they have seen prints similar to those of a big cat. Christine first saw the animal nearly a decade ago. It bounded away when it spied her then stopped. "I will never forget the way it turned around and looked at me," she says. She has no doubt she saw a very large black big cat she believes was a panther. Early last year her pet dog suddenly became very agitated as Christine passed by large trees. She later discovered the deep scratch marks.

Ken Pullen has seen the animal once – in 1996. "I couldn't have mistaken it for anything other than a big cat," he says. Two years later three local children found the remains of a sheep in a tree, a sighting verified by Pullen. Local police and others now refer sightings to him and, he says, there have been times when sightings at similar times and locations have been reported by people unknown to each other. The database records some 270 events involving the animal – or animals – including animal mutilations and sightings. The most recent sighting was two weeks ago when a retired couple in the area were shaken by the sight of a panther-like cat that appeared about 8am.

Even some who've never seen the animal are convinced of its existence, such as the chief engineer of the Hawkesbury Shire Council, Chris Daley. "There have been just too many sightings for there not to be something out there." So seriously does the council take the matter that it now maintains its own database of sightings.

While many in the scientific community are sceptical, those who have inspected the Grose Vale area believe the claims to be true. Dr Johannes Bauer, experienced in big cat surveys in China and Nepal and a lecturer in environmental management at the University of Sydney, was asked by the NSW government in 1999 to report on big cat sightings in the area. Bauer examined evidence including photos of mauled livestock, analysis of droppings, casts of paw prints and scratches on trees. His findings were kept secret until they surfaced late last year in the Department of Agriculture report.

Bauer had not minced his words in a letter setting out his findings: "Difficult as it seems to accept the most likely explanation of the evidence is the presence of a large feline predator in this area, most likely a leopard, less likely a jaguar (unless this is an elaborate hoax by someone in the community). I consider the habitat the animal occurs in as optimal leopard habitat, with probably abundant prey including macropods, possums, cats, stray dogs etc. I would also think that within the densely forested area dissected by many gorges and rock formations, the few sightings of this animal are not surprising. Despite the hundreds of jungle surveys I have been on, I've only ever seen glimpses of leopards. The long time-frame would suggest the animal present in the area is now rather old. The increase in livestock attacks or kills during the past years could have some connection with the age of the animal."

He has been supported by at least two vets who have investigated the Grose Vale sightings. Both have set down their conviction in writing that a big cat is roaming. Their evidence includes livestock obviously mauled by a large carnivore. One of the vets, Dr Keith Hart, of the Moss Vale Rural Lands Protection Board, which covers much of mid NSW including Grose Vale, has also raised concerns that scientific analysis of animal droppings in 2000 strongly pointed to the presence of a carnivore that was not a feral cat, dog or fox. He told The Bulletin: "I am convinced there is a big cat in the Grose Vale area."

How would such an animal come to be living in the Australian wilderness? Theories include escapes or releases of illegally held animals, descendants of pets kept by goldminers or the offspring of pumas kept as mascots by American airmen during the war years.

The latter theory is considered the most plausible in the most exhaustive study yet conducted into the possibility that big cats roam parts of Australia. Commenced in 1976, it was conducted by Deakin University lecturers and students in Victoria's Grampian Mountains – an area long rumoured to harbour big cats. The Deakin researchers acquired three eyewitness accounts of American airmen with pumas in 1942. Two were in the Mount Gambier area of South Australia and one at Nhill, far-western Victoria, where the Americans had a wartime base. The Deakin researchers found two former Australian guards at the base who remembered a USAF bomber landing at Nhill in 1942, probably from the Philippines. A puma cub on board was taken by road to the edge of the Grampians and set free.

The study was headed by Dr John Henry, an associate professor of education at Deakin University. In the mid 1970s, he was a lecturer in the science faculty and began the university's puma study. His final report, buried away in the university library, is fascinating reading. Its revelations – all well documented and sourced – include:

l In the rugged Geranium Springs Valley in the Grampians, sheep carcasses were found on a narrow ledge, 300 metres above the valley floor. Mutilated animal carcasses were also found on the valley floor.

l Droppings recovered from the valley were identified by a leading US big cat expert as matching puma faeces.

l Within a hidden rock shelter on Mount Bepcha in the Grampians, many animal remains – ranging from large cattle bones to those of freshwater tortoises – were found. Researchers also took casts of two large carnivore prints, later judged by US experts as matching those of a puma.

Henry has never resiled from the study's conclusion that it is beyond reasonable doubt that a big cat population lived in the Grampians.

Last year, the NSW government asked a seven-member panel of big cat experts to view a video shot near Lithgow, west of Grose Vale, of what appeared to be a large black cat – possibly a panther – in close proximity to a large feral cat. They concluded that the larger of the two was a huge feral cat, two to three times normal size. Their reasoning was only that they did not think a feral cat would be so close to a panther.

While the panel could not explain very large paw prints on a concrete driveway at Grose Vale, its leading members remain sceptical that a big cat – such as a panther or leopard – is on the loose. Says panellist Dr Sandy Ingleby, the Australian Museum's collections manager: "I am fairly sceptical, yes."

Another, David Pepper-Edwards, of Sydney's Taronga Zoo, says he's never seen evidence in the wild that such an animal exists nor has he seen a clear photograph. However, the NSW government is drawing up an advisory document to help concerned people to identify the footprints and droppings of large animals. The Minister for Agriculture Ian MacDonald told The Bulletin his department stands by the conclusion that it is more likely a big cat is roaming than not.

People such as Stubbs, the mayor of Hawkesbury, believe it is a time for a concerted effort involving the NSW government to trap the animal or animals. He says: "There is a real potential – sooner or later – for one of these animals to come into close contact with children. If the animals perceive themselves to be under threat, they are more likely to attack, as I understand it."

Luke Walker, the Kenthurst teenager attacked in March, said his arm bled for four days after the attack and he suffered fevers. A typically laconic Australian youth, he doesn't want to over-dramatise what happened to him. But, he says: "It gave me some nice war injuries. I know it was big and black. I know it was feline."

http://bulletin.ninemsn.com.au/bulletin/EdDesk.nsf/All/587288F1C522499FCA256E2500818B33
 
'PANTHER' PAW PRINT FOUND


GIANT footprints left in the snow suggest a mysterious panther-type creature may have paid another visit to the area.



Staff at Whilton Locks Carpet Company are convinced a large black cat is in the area, especially considering there was another sighting in the same area just months ago.

Fitting controller Liz Smith was having a break outside the company building last Friday when she saw the unfamiliar marks in the snow.

She said: "This is the first time I have seen any sign of it so I was surprised. I usually follow animal footprints in the snow because I like to see what animal it is, so just before I was looking at rabbit footprints. The cat's paw marks were enormous, nearly the size of my hand. It was not a dog print."

Over the years there have been several sightings of panther-type creatures.

In November, Mike Grant from Rugby came face to face with a huge black cat as he enjoyed a walk along the canal in Whilton.

Experts believe the large cats, which have been sighted all over the country, may once have been kept as pets but were released in the 1970s following new Government controls on ownership.

Mrs Smith said: "I don't think it would attack a human. There are too many rabbits around for one thing. It would only attack if it was severely hungry."

* If you have seen the 'panther' ring Amy Olive on our Big Cat Hotline on 01327 703383.

09 February 2004

http://www.daventrytoday.co.uk/ViewArticle2.aspx?SectionID=696&ArticleID=734455

A Big Cat Hotline??

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Cougar expert: The cats could very well be here


By: MARILYN BELLEMORE
02/12/2004



SOUTH COUNTY - Readers may recall the cougar sightings by people in and around Exeter and North Kingstown last year. Some wondered if the stories were fictitious and the "witnesses" were just plain crazy. Others thought the sightings might possibly be credible.

So what could be more exciting than to have many of these people come face to face with an expert in the cougar field?

David Baron, an author and award winning National Public Radio science correspondent, presented a slideshow lecture "The Beast in the Garden: Wildlife in America's Suburbs" at the Corliss Auditorium at the URI Bay Campus in Narragansett last week.

Wearing a burn-orange colored shirt and a cougar print tie, Baron stood before a crowd to give the lecture based on his recent book The Beast in the Garden: A Modern Parable of Man and Nature.

"For most of us our only experience in seeing wildlife is in a Sierra Club calendar as harmless, beautiful and noble animals," said Baron. "They are beautiful and noble but they are not harmless because we were mean to these animals."

Baron said that mountain lion, cougar, panther and puma are all interchangeable names and that during the times of Columbus, the beasts were all over the country including in the forests of New England.

Early settlers sort to exterminate the "highly adaptable" animal. Bounty was offered on mountain lions, drawing in as much as 40 shillings in places like Connecticut, said Baron.

"There are many people who have seen what they believe are mountain lions in Rhode Island today," said Baron. "Some of these are people who have experience with them out west. You can't discount them. I have the idea there might be. Other times people get the crazy idea to raise them as pets and when they get big set them free."

The author spoke primarily about his experiences in Boulder, Colorado where wildlife authorities did not believe witnesses.

And, although Baron said he was not yet convinced that mountain lions are reproducing in Rhode Island and the surrounding area, they will be within 10 to 20 years.

At some point the human population will be big enough so that a mountain lion will get struck by a car and there will be enough of them around so that people will take photographs of the creatures as evidence, Baron said.

And, what are your chances of survival if you should come face to face with one in Hamilton or Davisville?

"You're probably going to be all right. They attack from behind," said Baron. "But if you see one you should stand your ground, make yourself look big and maintain eye contact. You want to convince them that you're not a threat to it, not the other way around."

Baron said that he didn't mean to imply that mountain lions are the new great threat to America but it's more likely that you'd be killed by a deer or mosquito.

"The animals are sending a message that our relationship with wildlife has environmentally changed," he said.

To keep mountain lions away from your home, don't attract deer or leave food outside in a child's play area.

Baron said that a mountain lion mimic's the behavior of its prey. When the prey is outside, the animal will hunt it.

Although they are nocturnal and active at dusk and dawn, sixty percent of the sightings are in the daytime.

"They are extraordinary hunters who kill prey as much as seven times their size," said Baron. "They attack at the neck and cover (the body) with leaves and pine needles. They hunt alone and are seeing without being seen."

Mountain lions are the same size as leopards and half the size of an African lion.

Baron explained how to identify paw prints. There are usually has no claw marks because they are retractable. Look at the shape of the heel. If it's a mountain lion's there should be three lobes as opposed to a dog having two. The average size paw print is three and a half inches.

"We cannot leave the animals alone. It's far too late," said Baron. "But by feeding birds and planting gardens we're altering wildlife behavior. I don't claim the solutions are clear and easy. I can tell you what the answer is. It's not to throw up our hands and let nature take its course. Nature is not in control. We are."

http://www.zwire.com/site/news.cfm?BRD=1715&dept_id=73974&newsid=10952546&PAG=461&rfi=9
 
Posted at 12:15 p.m., Tuesday, January 13, 2004

Maui big cat may have moved to Wailea


WAILUKU, Maui — Has the mysterious Olinda cat moved to Wailea?

Some residents of the posh South Maui community say it's possible after one woman said she saw a big catlike animal and some neighbors said they heard some catlike noises in the night.

Phyllis Thompson said she and her husband heard loud, high-pitched animal sounds for about a half-hour at 2:30 a.m. Dec. 23 — the same night that a neighbor told police she saw a large black cat roam through her yard. Officers investigated but found nothing.

State wildlife officials were expected to investigate the incident, but Thompson said no one has heard anything unusual for at least 10 days.

"He's gotten smart and left the area, I think," she said this morning.

Meanwhile, state officials say no new big-cat sightings have been reported in the Olinda area, where dozens of residents reported seeing or hearing a large cat throughout last year. In November, the sightings ceased.

During the thick of last year's sightings, reports of the cat came in from all parts of the island, including Wailea, which is 15 miles from Olinda, officials reported.

http://the.honoluluadvertiser.com/article/2004/Jan/13/br/br02p.html

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Very interesting report:

Article Published: Monday, February 23, 2004 - 2:15:02 AM EST

In search of 'ghost cats'

Many report seeing mountain lions, but proof is elusive

By Derek Gentile
Berkshire Eagle Staff

EGREMONT -- According to Eugene Hannon, the sightings have been reported fairly regularly since last summer: large, tawny, long-tailed animals gliding silently, regally through the woods and open spaces of Catamount Ski Area, looking neither right nor left, ignoring the human pointers and oglers as they make their way through the mountains.

Hannon, the director of operations at the ski area, is not unaware of the coincidence of all this.

"Yeah, I know," he said. "Catamounts at Catamount. Who would have thought that?"

The sightings stopped when Catamount, the ski area, opened for business in November, said Hannon.

"But everyone I talk to who saw it says that this is something big. Something substantial. Much bigger than a house cat," he said.

Substantial. It is an ironic term in connection with the sightings of the catamount, also called the cougar, puma or eastern mountain lion.

The common thread for virtually all the sightings of these creatures, long believed extinct in the eastern part of the country, is that there is almost never any evidence to confirm them. Nothing, in short, substantial enough to actually prove they exist here. In fact, one of the names for the mountain lion in the eastern United States is "the ghost cat."

Besides the ones at Catamount, there have been cougar sightings near October Mountain in Lenox, on Long Pond Road in Great Barrington and in Otis and Blandford over the past two years.

"They're here," said Lt. Thomas Kasprzak, a state environmental police officer who has lived and worked in the Berkshires for many years. "There are too many sightings to be ignored. Sooner or later, we'll get physical evidence that will prove it. To say that it's all a mass illusion, or bobcats, well, I believe people are seeing something."

Kasprzak's assertion is not necessarily the party line taken by a majority of state officials. The mountain lion once roamed the eastern forests in great numbers 200 years ago.

But by 1880, they were hunted out of existence in the east, although the cougar is plentiful in the western part of the country. There are also about 50 mountain lions, called Florida panthers, in the swamps of Florida. The animal is officially a federally endangered species.

Misidentifications

Most state officials take the position that the animal is not native to the area, and that any sightings are misidentifications.

One of the reasons that state officials are so adamant about having concrete proof that the eastern mountain lion exists is the impact it would have on other species.

According to information on the Web site of the Nature Conservancy, if the mountain lion was determined to be a part of the natural population of the eastern ecosystem, wildlife officials in Massachusetts and other eastern states would have to rethink their policies on managing the local deer population, which is the mountain lion's principal food source. That could mean restrictions on deer hunting.

In addition, one pair of mountain lions require about 50,000 acres of home range, which could also affect logging operations in New England.

Kasprzak said he is not surprised at the lack of physical evidence.

"I was thinking about that, actually, and I called one of my brethren in Florida a while ago," said Kasprzak. "I asked him if they ever see [mountain lion] road kill down there, and he said they do not. These are apparently very smart animals and very shy animals. They are very cautious crossing a road. So physical evidence won't be easy to come by."

But there is something out there. Since 1983, according to the Eastern Puma Research Network, there have 52 documented reports of mountain lions in Western Massachusetts and 26 reports of mountain lions in northwestern Connecticut.

The Eastern Puma Research Network is a nonprofit, volunteer organization based in West Virginia. The organization has been tracking the movements of the mountain lions across the country since 1965.

"Documented reports" mean someone contacts the EPRN and fills out a report file. So far, none of these documented reports have included photos of an animal or some kind of physical evidence. But John Lutz, the director of the EPRN, said he is almost certain the mountain lion is back in the Northeast.

"I don't think you have a breeding population in Massachusetts," he said. "My guess is they are filtering down from the north."

Lutz said no physical evidence of mountain lions found has been found in either Western Massachusetts or Connecticut. However, he said, a cougar skull was found in the Quabbin Reservoir area last year, as well as mountain lion scat. There was some question from state officials as to whether the skull and scat were from an animal native to the area, however.

Lutz and many other experts do not disagree that many of these sightings may represent escaped pets.

"You would not believe the animals people think they can domesticate," he said. A leopard skull was found near a lake in northern New Hampshire several years ago, he added.

At the same time, like Kasprzak, Lutz believes there have been too many sightings to ignore.

Karen Holmes, a naturalist and a Massachusetts volunteer for EPRN in central Massachusetts, believes that, while a certain percentage of the animals are former pets, the rest are mountain lions relocating from the western part of the country.

Over the past several decades, she said, mountain lions have been slowly making their way eastward. Confirmed sightings have been reported in recent years in Pennsylvania, Indiana, Illinois, Michigan, Nebraska and Kentucky, she said.

Holmes has many stories of Massachusetts residents who report that they have seen large, tawny, long-tailed animals padding across fields or even roads. Lately, she said, she has been tracking stories of a black panther in Lakeville.

But according to some local experts, the sightings or believed sightings of mountain lions are beginning to border on UFO-like hysteria.

"Don't get me wrong, I'm a fan of the mountain lion, and I'd love to see a viable population of these animals," said David Czaja of New Hartford, Conn., an animal tracker and naturalist.

'A lot of nonsense'

"But there's a lot of nonsense out there," he said. "There's been a lot of chatter to the point of ridiculousness."

Czaja, who has been a tracker for many years, believes that the zeal to spot a mountain lion has led to a large number of inaccurate sightings.

"Let me give you an example," he said. "The past few years, the bobcat population in the area is doing very well. There are a lot of big bobcats out there. And they have very big footprints. You get someone out in the wild who doesn't really know what he's looking at, and I think we're getting a huge percentage of misidentifications and unreliable sightings.

"I think the local wildlife officials' position is exactly the right one," he said. "They should not be criticized. There is no solid evidence to go on.

"That said, I do think there are animals here," he said. "I even think there's a possibility they have bred here. There's something happening. But people have to be patient. Until we have physical evidence, the situation is the same as it always was."

http://www.berkshireeagle.com/Stories/0,1413,101~7514~1973447,00.html

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Black cat mystery: Just a cat

By Chip Womick
Staff Writer, The Courier-Tribune

ASHEBORO - The city's black mystery cat turns out to have been a big housecat, according to a West Virginia man who has spent years tracking sightings of mysterious cats.

"This has all the characteristics and tendencies of a large housecat or a feral cat, but it was not a panther," said John Lutz of Maysville, W.Va., director of the Eastern Puma Research Network.

Lutz - and a colleague in Pennsylvania who is an expert on cougars - viewed a video of the black cat shot Jan. 27 by Denise Williams in south Asheboro.

The video, shot through a window of Williams' home, shows a black feline in a snow-covered field 100 feet or more from her house. On the same day Williams saw the creature, one of her neighbors also saw, and filmed, a big animal. A Randolph County sheriff's deputy reported seeing a large animal in a nearby wooded area that day, too.

The Eastern Puma Research Center is the oldest and largest cougar research group in the United States and has collected more than 6,000 reports since 1965, according to Lutz. Of those, 134 sightings were in North Carolina; 20 sightings were reported in 2003.

The animal in Williams' video was not large enough, Lutz said, for its paws to break through the icy crust on the snow as it walked, even as it leapt over small branches. He estimated the size of the cat at 15-20 pounds.

Some of Williams' neighbors trapped a large black cat on Feb. 9. An animal control officer said the feral cat probably weighed about 15 pounds. The men who caught the cat predicted there would be no more big cat sightings once the creature was taken from the neighborhood.

Lutz said that he once had an encounter with a black cat that mirrors Williams' experience. On more than one occasion, he said, he saw the cat from 100 to 150 feet and thought that perhaps it could be a large wild cat of some kind. Then he encountered the cat at a distance of about 30 feet and realized that it was only a housecat.

"Black animals, or black cats, for some reason look bigger," he said. "They just look bigger."

Williams said Thursday that she had heard from Lutz.

"He's an expert and if he says that's what it was, it probably was. ... It certainly was a strange experience for me," she said, adding: "Even with our cat turning out to be a housecat, I think we have learned a lot about the existence of wild cats in our area."

Williams said everywhere she went after her black cat sighting was reported in the news, people wanted to talk about it.

"About half the people would laugh and tell a joke and about half the people would have a story where they had seen a black cat or a mountain lion or something."


Friday, February 27, 2004

http://www.courier-tribune.com/nws/blackcatmystery022704.html
 
Big cats - the truth is out there

By Ron Toft
Published: March 12 2004 20:20 | Last Updated: March 12 2004 20:20


A few years ago, anyone who reported seeing a "big cat" roaming the countryside would have been the butt of pub jokes.

They would have been told they were imagining things, had simply seen a domestic cat, fox or some other familiar animal under difficult lighting conditions - or, more frankly, that they were lying.

Today, however, that attitude is gradually changing - thanks mainly to the work of the Dartmoor-based British Big Cats Society (BBCS), whose twin aims - to "prove and protect" - are to establish beyond all reasonable doubt that exotic felines really do roam our countryside and prevent them from being shot on sight.

A staggering 1,077 sightings were reported in 2002 alone, plus a further 679 sightings from previous years. Scotland was the leading hotspot with 209 reports, followed by Devon with 97, Kent with 92 and Wales with 86.

Now in its fourth year, the BBCS strongly believes that this is only the tip of the iceberg, that big cats are being seen much more often than was previously thought. Society officials estimate that for every sighting made public, a further three or four are never reported.

Last year was an "extraordinary year," according to BBCS founder Danny Bamping, a 29-year-old wildlife cameraman based in Plymouth. Figures for 2003 are to be published at the end of this month and data collected have been vast, due to the number of external contributors, such as the National Farmers' Union (NFU) RSPCA, wildlife trusts, several police forces and the Department for Environment, Food and Rural Affairs (Defra).

Bamping, who has been investigating the big cats of Britain for 10 years, says he is delighted with the fact that Defra invited the BBCS to give a presentation on big cats last month - "Several DEFRA employees came forward and disclosed their own sightings" - and that the NFU has pledged its support for the society's work.

NFU deputy president Tim Bennett said in December that although there are "many local legends, such as the beast of Bodmin Moor, we have no firm evidence of how many instances of identifiable creatures there are. By helping the BBCS with its study, we aim to reach a clearer picture. This is a serious issue for farmers who need to be aware of threats to their animals from worrying and attacks."

Farmers, says Bamping, can be relied on for "valuable and credible" information. "Over the years I have listened harder when talking about big cats or evidence of them with farmers. They know their business and they know what they have seen."

The BBCS hopes that by working alongside the NFU and other bodies, it can "start to push for a properly funded and long term study of big cats in Britain."

The society investigates as many reports as possible within its limited resources in order to obtain first-hand witness accounts. Some of its members also "stake out" big cat hotspots in the hope of filming or photographing the elusive animals. "By using scale models of big cats and distance information supplied by witnesses, we try to estimate the approximate size and identity of the species."

The evidence for big cats is based not just on sightings. Far from it. There are photos and video footage and physical evidence in the form of animal kills and ground and tree marks. A few big cats have been caught and some others have been shot or found dead.

In 1980 a farmer captured a female puma at Cannich, Scotland, after a string of big cat reports in the area dating back several years. She ended her days at Highland Wildlife Park.

A jungle cat was found dead at the side of a road in Shropshire in 1989 after almost certainly being hit by a passing vehicle. It was rumoured that this animal had mated with domestic cats and produced several offspring. "One large, smoky-grey cat called Jasper had all the characteristics and markings of a jungle cat," says a BBCS report.

In 1991 a northern lynx was shot near Beccles, Suffolk, after killing about 25 sheep in a fortnight. Two years later a leopard cat suffered the same fate on the Isle of Wight after being mistaken for a marauding fox which had taken ducks and chickens from a farm.

In 1999 a horse was bitten by what is said to have been a puma in a remote part of West Wales noted for its big cat activity. A scratch-covered tree on the same farm is believed to have been used by a big cat as a "mark post". Paw prints were discovered around the base of the tree and there was a strong smell of cat urine. Two foals, five sheep, many chickens and a sheep dog were all killed in the area over a 12-month period.

A journalist came across the remains of a dismembered roe deer after catching a "very large, dark cat" in the headlights of his car while driving home from Dundee to Cupar in Scotland late one night. The animal "gave the impression of being extremely powerful and agile."

In 2002, says the BBCS, there were three confirmed attacks on horses and two confirmed cat encounters with people. Last year's incidents included a puma killing livestock in Port Rush, Ireland, police searching for a large black feline in the Shrewsbury area and a horse attack in South Devon.

Local vet Steve Grills who treated the injured horse, Mischief, said, "There's probably not much other than a big cat which could have caused such damage."

Bamping regards the evidence for the existence of wild exotic felines of various species as overwhelming. "Sceptics are now as rare as the cats themselves," he declares. Some animals, he believes, may not just be surviving but thriving and possibly even breeding.

But where did they originally come from? A document being prepared by BBCS identifies a number of places from which big cats were released in the UK since 1976 in areas including from Wales to Scotalnd and from Yorkshire to Devon and Cornwall. Animals were also set free well before that period and are still being let loose today.

"The stigma attached to big cat sightings is nowhere near as great as it used to be," adds Danny. "Members of the public need to know that their sightings and encounters will now be taken seriously and investigated fully with a view to building up a comprehensive UK-wide picture of the distribution of these exotic creatures."

Info: The British Big Cat Society, Dartmoor Wildlife Park, Sparkwell, Plymouth, Devon PL7 5DG. Tel: 01752-837 645;http://www.britishbigcats.org; [email protected]

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Posted on Mon, Mar. 15, 2004

Mike Hendricks


Prowler in search of growler

By MIKE HENDRICKS

Columnist



Aimey Niemackl suddenly felt creepy as she and her big black dog, Tolkien, jogged along the Little Mill Creek trail in north Lenexa one afternoon a couple of months ago.

“It was getting dark,” Niemackl said. “I felt something watching us.”

Not someone — something. When she turned to see that something, she caught a fleeting glimpse of a creature with a tan coat. She thought it was a deer at first, but it was sure no Bambi.

“I was scared out of my mind,'' she said. “I'm telling you, I saw it behind my house, too. I don't let my kids play outside anymore.''

I met Niemackl and Tolkien Friday morning in the driveway of their home near 79th Street and Mullen Road.They were leaving for the dog groomers, and me, well, I was prowling the neighborhood — on cougar patrol. I wasn't the only one hunting big game out in the 'burbs. Authorities are investigating a report that as many as two mountain lions were seen last week near that bike and jogging trail, which cuts across 79th Street, halfway between Pflumm and Lackman roads.

The principals of three nearby grade schools sent out notes Thursday, warning parents to keep an eye out. TV news was all over the story that evening, meaning that, by Friday morning, the joggers and cyclists I met along the trail were looking over their shoulders.

“I thought about taking the sidewalk by the street,'' Kamille Ziegenhorn said as she cooled down from her morning jog. “It was so nice yesterday. I had the kids playing outside, and a friend drove up and said, ‘I'm surprised you let them out in the yard.' ”

What started it all was a Lenexa man claiming he and his wife had seen a mountain lion Tuesday afternoon in the woods behind their home in the 7700 block of Acuff Lane. The next day, around 11 a.m., he saw it again, down in Little Mill Creek, and asked a Kansas wildlife biologist to come take a look.

“He found nothing,'' said a state conservation officer, Bruce Bertwell.

No tracks. No scat. In fact, there is no hard evidence at all to back up Fred Rivera's claim. But he is certain what he saw was no bobcat, as some have suggested.

“I've hunted bobcat, and I know the difference,'' Rivera said.

Wildlife experts confirmed several cougar sightings in and around Kansas City in recent years, most notably the mountain lion run over in the Northland in 2002. Yet some remain skeptical that Lenexa is suddenly Big Cat Country.

“Yeah, we're on cougar patrol, too,'' a Lenexa animal control officer joked when I told her that I'd been playing Boy Scout, searching for cougar tracks in the woods.

“It's just the one guy saying it,'' her partner said.

But as I learned, that's not entirely true. More than “one guy'' thinks there's good reason to keep alert near the tree belt.

Besides Niemackl thinking she saw a cougar, Jim Butler, who also lives on Mullen, saw two big cats riffling through his garbage last Monday night.

Then there's Mike Scott, who lives at the end of the cul-de-sac. No, he hasn't seen the cats, but the deer in the woods are more skittish than they used to be.

“They know something's up,'' he said.

They're making themselves scarce — or something is.

Requires fre registration:

http://www.kansascity.com/mld/kansascity/news/local/8187361.htm?1c

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A rather dismissive article but it does contain a number of reports :

State has share of myths

2004-03-21
By Ed Godfrey
The Oklahoman


A photograph being circulated on the Internet of a 140-pound blue catfish being caught from Lake Texoma is a hoax.

The photograph is real, but it wasn't taken at Lake Texoma. The monster cat was caught in Italy.

According to snopes.com, a Web site devoted to debunking such myths, the photograph originated on a French Web site devoted to catfish angling.

And it's not a blue catfish. It's called a Wels catfish and it was caught on a live eel.

Such Internet hoaxes are nothing new in the hunting and fishing world. Last year, a similar kind of photo was circulated of a man holding a mountain lion.

"I saw the picture two or three times and it was a different story each time," said Dennis Maxwell, assistant chief of law enforcement for the Oklahoma Department of Wildlife Conservation.

It seems a deer hunter had stumbled on this same big cat in Pennsylvania, Missouri, Alabama, Montana, Texas, Wyoming and Kansas, according to the Internet.

The mountain lion was really taken near Seattle and the photograph appeared in the Fall 2003 issue of Fair Chase magazine, a Boone and Crockett Club publication.

Oklahoma also has its share of myths or "rural legends." For decades, state game wardens have been refuting stories of mountain lion stockings, black panthers and a Bigfoot in the Kiamichi Mountains.

For at least two decades, a story has persisted that the state wildlife department stocks mountain lions in Oklahoma to control the deer population.

State wildlife officials fielded questions from a local television station about it as recently as last month.

The television station was e-mailed two mountain lion photos -- one from a guy in Tecumseh and another from a guy in Choctaw -- both claiming the photos were proof that mountain lions were turned loose near their homes. It turns out the two photos were the same.

The rumor is really a silly one when you think about it. Why would the state wildlife department want mountain lions to kill deer, considering all the money it makes from deer hunters?

Not to mention the liability the department would incur by stocking such a dangerous animal.

"We hear it every year. We've got landowners that believe that," Maxwell said of the rumor. "We don't do stuff like that. We don't have access to mountain lions."

Sightings of the storied "black panther" or black mountain lion are also common in the state.

People swear up and down that they have seen black panthers or cougars, but state wildlife officials say there is no proof such an animal exists.

"We don't know what they are seeing, but we have never had anybody catch one or shoot one or take pictures of one," Maxwell said.

Mountain lions do reside in all parts of Oklahoma, mostly in the Panhandle and western half of the state, but they are not black, according to the state wildlife department.

Black leopards and jaguars are real, but are different species of cats and not indigneous to the United States. Black leopards are more commonly found in the dense tropical rain forest of southeast Asia. Jaguars are found in Central and South America.

It is possible for a breeder to have released a once-captive black leopard in the state, but there are no free-ranging black panthers in Oklahoma, state wildlife officials say.

Mike Virgin, a game warden in McCurtain County, has heard many stories of black panther sightings.

"People see more black ones than they see brown ones, and there is simply no such cat," Virgin said.

Virgin has been a game warden for 26 years, and if black panthers do exist in Oklahoma, he figures he would have seen one by now. The same goes for Bigfoot.

Every year, there are reported Bigfoot sightings in the mountains of southeastern Oklahoma, Virgin said.

A few people actually believe such a creature exists and will get angry if you suggest otherwise, the game warden said.

But Virgin said he thinks most Bigfoot sightings are the work of pranksters.

"There is no evidence of a Bigfoot," he said. "There never has been. There never will be."

However, it is a story that will never die. Just like the local Indian legend about the leprechaun- like "little people" who live in the woods, Virgin said.

"I haven't seen them, either," he said.

http://www.newsok.com/cgi-bin/show_article?ID=1202661
 
Trackers claim prints are mystery monster cat's

March 23, 2004 - 11:41AM



A file shot of earlier paw prints claimed to have been left by the "Blue Mountains panther".

Trackers of the so-called "Lithgow Lion" or "Blue Mountains Panther" claim to have further evidence of the creature's existence - a set of large paw prints.

There have been numerous unconfirmed sightings of the mysterious animal in the Blue Mountains area for many years.

Today, the chief of the Blue Mountains Big Cats Investigation Group, Rex Gilroy, claimed he has found new paw prints in a remote area of the Blue Mountains.

"We're dealing with a marsupial cat that from head to outstretched kangaroo-like tail - they've got a dog, yet cat-like head, their fur colour is brownish to black - but certainly they're anything up to two metres in length," Mr Gilroy told Sydney ABC radio.

The paw prints were approximately 17cm in length and 18 centimetres wide, he said.

Mr Gilroy, who has spent the past 40 years chasing prints from the animals, will now present to scientists the plaster casts he has taken of the paw prints.

http://www.smh.com.au/articles/2004/03/23/1079939621570.html
 
The following happened to my sisters closest friend last summer.
She lives near Wantage, Oxfordshire and every day walks her two dogs up onto the Ridgeway. She was doing so one early evening when, what she said was a ' black panther ' jumped onto the track about at the most 30 feet from her. It did stop, and they were face to face for a few moments. Her dogs apparently bolted and she froze, but saw it absoloutly clearly, she was most struck by its incredibly black glossy coat which looked almost oiled, and its size. It made no move to attack her, but jumped across the track and into another field. In her own words: ' I haven't run since I was 14, but I ran then.'
She called the police and they took a statement, and she was also contacted by a group interested in ABC sightings. It shook her so much that she did not use that route for walking for a while, I believe, although she was more concerned that the ' panther ' might attack her dogs than herself. In hindsight, she thinks it is one of the most amazing things that have ever happened to her, it just shocked her completely at the time.
 
Lethe said:
she was most struck by its incredibly black glossy coat which looked almost oiled,

Thats the sort of recollection that would to me say it was a genuine sighting,they get the shiney coat from going through undergrowth, the brambles ect actually comb" the coat.
 
"In hindsight, she thinks it is one of the most amazing things that have ever happened to her, it just shocked her completely at the time."

Fair enough - but no tracks, no hairs, no scat, no clawmarks - none of what you would find if there was a physical panther in the area. And no followup - as ever, the phantom cats just vanish after the event.
 
I've said it before and I'll say it again...

These things don't exist in our dimension!

A jet black panther roaming the Oxfordshire countryside?

What a ludicrous notion.

Not that the woman was lying - I do believe she saw the animal - but it's just so ridiculous that it could be a permanent member of British wildlife.

It would have been interesting if she'd have had the bottle to follow it and see where it went...
 
Paws

Apr 5 2004


By Matt Withers, Daily Post


POLICE marksmen have been scouring North Wales farmland amid fears a "big cat" is on the prowl.

There have been several reported sightings of a large black cat near Llanddona Beach.

And several local horses have suffered mysterious injuries in the past month - the most recent attack coming only a week ago.

Armed police with the support of the force helicopter searched the area on Saturday.

Paw prints found at the spot are being examined by experts and local farmers are planning night shoots in a bid to catch the panther-like cat.

Local farmer Paul Gash, of Tyddyn Bach, Llanddona, spotted the cat as he was driving his tractor.

He said: "It was over the fence on land belonging to Tanrallt Wen and it was black and big - I mean big. Taller than the biggest Labrador dog and four to five feet nose to tail end.

"It sloped across the field, backed up to a tree and sprayed to mark it's territory, just like a domestic cat would do.

"Then it walked on, quite leisurely, and disappeared into undergrowth.

"It was really alarming and there is no way I would have gone towards it without a gun in my hand."

Mr Gash phoned Anne and Mike Roberts, who run the nearby Pentaran Stud, because the animal was on their land at Tanrallt Wen.

Mr Roberts said: "I grabbed a shotgun and we dashed there and made a preliminary search.

"Then, because of injuries we have had to our horses in recent years, we decided to call the police.

"An armed response unit came within ten minutes or so and a helicopter half an hour later

"Some local farmers and shooting men turned up to help but it was to no avail.

"The helicopter used it's image-seeking cameras over the area for a good half hour but picked up nothing."

Over the last two years two young foals belonging to Pentaran Stud have been taken from the sixty acre farm.

Last year only the hind quarters were left behind on the edge of woodland and early this year a foal disappeared altogether.

In each case their mothers were left very distressed. Another mare had severe tear marks on both sides of her body, her back and her hindquarters.

Mrs Roberts said: "The problem is that the farm is surrounded virtually on all sides by hill woodland and bracken covered areas - acres and acres of it - most of which is inaccessible.

"I just feel that the damage done is more than a fox or domestic dog could do.

"These are big horses and one mother had damage done to her which may have been done defending her foal.

"With sightings in other parts of Wales it is not unreasonable to believe we have one here but how it got here on to the island goodness only knows.

"I have total belief in what Paul Gash has told me - he saw what he saw and he is not a scaremonger."

A gelding belonging to Janet Snowdon-Barnes was mysteriously injured only last week.

A vet was called out to treat the black and white horse which had a six-inch gash running down his buttocks. His rug was very badly torn.

Mrs Snowdon-Barnes said: "At the time it happened an attack did not occur to me but seeing the helicopter search today made it all make sense.

"When Anne Roberts mentioned her fears a year ago I thought she was away with the fairies but now I believe her."

North Wales Police confirmed a search team attended the scene after receiving the call from Mrs Roberts.

A spokesman said: "The farmer's wife rang in saying her husband was going after a big black cat and we sent armed police as a precaution.

"Our environmental officers are now involved in it.

"It could well belong to an individual who was keeping it as a pet."

http://icnorthwales.icnetwork.co.uk...ull&siteid=50142&headline=paws-name_page.html
 
BIG CAT SIGHTING ON AIR FORCE BASE


09:00 - 06 April 2004

Servicemen on night manoeuvres at a Cornish air base have reported sighting a large black puma-like animal.

They say they saw the creature in a series of separate sightings around the RAF station at St Mawgan.

Now motion detectors are being put around the base in a bid to track the animal and catch it on camera.

Witnesses, who did not wish to be identified, compared the cat's size with a fox that was in the field at the same time, saying it was "five times the length of the fox", with a head like a puma or panther.

The animal was observed for various lengths of time from different points around the airfield by personnel using night vision equipment.

Squadron Leader Dave Webster said: "We need to maintain the integrity of the sighting area so that zoologists can ascertain whether or not the creature was in transit or if it has become a more frequent visitor.

"The zoological specialists on site are keen to get on with the job of determining how often this creature has visited RAF St Mawgan."

Sqn Ldr Webster warned: "This is an active military installation, which is regularly patrolled and guarded.

"In the present security climate it would be extremely unwise for anyone to attempt to venture on to the base in an attempt to see if this creature is still here."

According to one observer the animal is at least six feet long.

RAF St Mawgan staff consulted experts on how to investigate the matter further.

Group Captain Jim Goodbourn, the base's commanding officer, has given authority for specialist monitoring and detection equipment, including motion detectors and night-time recording devices, to be sited around the area where the sightings took place.

Mike Thomas, former director of Newquay Zoo, and a recognised expert on big cats, said: "The RAF has acknowledged the need to investigate this phenomenon in a totally scientific manner.

"I am glad to see that the RAF has taken a sensible approach by calling in the experts to advise on this matter."

Sqn Ldr Webster said that if it appeared the creature was a frequent visitor to the Cornish air base, the RAF and zoological experts would make every possible attempt to ensure that it was captured humanely, so that it could be examined by the appropriate zoological experts.

He said the RAF had an overriding duty of care to ensure the safety of military and civilian personnel, as well as that of dependants who made use of the station's recreational and leisure facilities.

Wildlife experts believe the appearance of big cats in the wild could be linked to a change in the laws governing the keeping of wild animals some 30 years ago.

That change prompted the owners of pumas, leopards, lynxes and other exotic pets to free them rather than pay for a licence and submit to inspections.

Robin Godbeer, of the Dartmoor-based Big Black Cat Society, said this sighting could have been a leopard or a jaguar.

He said the RAF's combination of night vision equipment and motion detectors is ideal for documenting visits by the cat.

"They do tend to be more active at night," he added.

"The best thing to spot them is low light surveillance equipment and motion detectors."

http://www.westernmorningnews.co.uk...ayContent&sourceNode=103331&contentPK=9490317
 
Prowling beast 'a black leopard'

Apr 6 2004


By Matt Withers, Daily Post


A BIG cat expert believes the mystery animal prowling North Wales farmland is almost certainly a black leopard.

On Saturday police marksmen scoured parts of Anglesey following reports of a panther-like creature.

Paw prints found in fields near Llanddona Beach are being examined by experts.

Locals say several horses have been mysteriously injured over the past few weeks.

Last night Danny Nineham, who examines big cat sightings for several police forces, said the patterns and nature of the horses' injuries were consistent with a black leopard.

And he warned the big cat could present a danger to humans.

Mr Nineham said it was unusual for a leopard to attack horses.

He said: "Normally, there's a natural amount of prey around, things like squirrels, rabbits and deer. It's quite rare. It's difficult to attack horses, unless they're sleeping. But foals are easy prey and leopards are wily animals."

Mr Nineham said he was contacted every day with reports of big cat sightings from across the country. He believed most were leopards.

He said: "They've come from all over the place, travelling circuses through the years, private collectors.

"In the 1970s they were the in thing to keep as pets, but people had them and then got fed up with them.

"There are now breeding leopards in all parts of the country but it goes unreported.

"Unfortunately, it's going to take a child being killed before anybody does anything about it."

Nigel Spencer, of Rutland and Leicestershire Panther Watch, turned his trip to North Wales into a busman's holiday after reading about the attacks in the Daily Post.

He was enjoying a break in Caernarfon when he saw the report and he is now heading to Anglesey in a bid to find the beast.

But, unlike Mr Nineham, he suspects the mystery cat may be a puma.

He said: "There are hundreds of these cats right across the UK.

"They tend to follow railway lines so it must have crossed over the Britannia Bridge.

"I would almost put money on it being a puma.

"I have my video camera with me, so I'll see if I can get any pictures of it. If anybody has taken any prints, I'd certainly be interested in seeing them."

There have been several reported sightings of a large black cat near Llandona Beach.

Several local horses have suffered mysterious injuries in the past month - the most recent attack coming only a week ago.

Over the past two years two young foals belonging to nearby Pentaran Stud have been taken.

http://icnorthwales.icnetwork.co.uk...owling-beast--a-black-leopard--name_page.html
 
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