Thank you Iris, I will - and to you and yours too.A great summary Mungoman. Have a Merry Christmas. It's raining here.
Thanks Yorky - bloody interesting mate! The Batata, and the Camote are greatly disjunct...which must indicate obvious connections...The Mexican and the Philipines is obvious with the Spanish Trading that went on but the Batata has me struggling- Antilles and Timor/New Guinea?? Missionaries?The sweet potato is a mystery that defies solution at the moment. Somehow sweet potatoes have travelled across the Pacific from America, perhaps on a boat.
I'm wondering if you are talking about sweet potato or yam? Here, we often call yams "sweet potatoes", though I do know they are two different plants.The sweet potato is a mystery that defies solution at the moment. Somehow sweet potatoes have travelled across the Pacific from America, perhaps on a boat.
We have Yams down under - we have the Jerusalem artichoke, Helianthus, which people call yams, there are the Indigenous yams, one, the water yam is a member of the Dioscorea family, then we have the Murnong, the daisy yam, Microseris family. There are others known as 'Cheeky Yams', due to the necesarry processing involved to reduce the alkaloid content.I'm wondering if you are talking about sweet potato or yam? Here, we often call yams "sweet potatoes", though I do know they are two different plants.
A very interesting read Eburacum - Thank you mate.Sorry, I should have posted a link.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sweet_potato_cultivation_in_Polynesia
Three different types of sweet potato are involved, but only 'kumara' crossed the ocean in the pre-Spanish era.
I have no idea what type of yams ours are. We can grow them ie they are not necessarily imported.We have Yams down under - we have the Jerusalem artichoke, Helianthus, which people call yams, there are the Indigenous yams, one, the water yam is a member of the Dioscorea family, then we have the Murnong, the daisy yam, Microseris family. There are others known as 'Cheeky Yams', due to the necesarry processing involved to reduce the alkaloid content.
But then we have the sweet potatoes, which were originally a fibrous white one which we ate when I was a young'n, and then the Kumara which I was introduced to in the seventies.
I wouldn't have a clue about the American Yams, so I plead ignorance...or the Fifth - whichever covers it.
Reply to my comment. Perhaps our yams are sweet potatoes and I mixed them up. Though the comment from wiki shows the confusion we have in NA:I have no idea what type of yams ours are. We can grow them ie they are not necessarily imported.
The sweet potatoes are not as common in grocery stores, but you can sometimes find them. I have no idea if they can be grown here.
I enjoy yams. They are sweet.
I was having a chat with a Thai fella in a bar in Thailand, and we got onto origins of people, and this Fella (he called himself Chicken), told me that the true origins of the Thai people were polynesian/Maori...Seeing as how you point out the influence of Polynesian traits(?) in Japanese culture Kondoru, it makes sense of what Chicken was talking about.People did get around a lot.
I remember reading Japanese culture has both a Polynesian and Siberian element.
Yep ^this^ Yum yum yum.View attachment 72480sweet potato
I can now say that I have never had a yam.
It's probably the other way around. The Polynesians emerged from South East Asia (including Thailand) and the Philippines in about 2500 BCE, and spread across New Guinea and the Pacific Islands very gradually for the next three and a half thousand years. The last place they reached was Aotearoa, (New Zealand), in about 1200 AD, four centuries before Tasman got there.this Fella (he called himself Chicken), told me that the true origins of the Thai people were polynesian/Maori
I'd had a few Singha's Eburacum..and some local product...and it was a little late - maybe that is what Chicken meant, OR I heard incorrectly. Either way - looking at the 'flow chart', what you're saying makes sense. My Cuzzy Bros though, in Browns Bay, are going to disagree with me vehemently.It's probably the other way around. The Polynesians emerged from South East Asia (including Thailand) and the Philippines in about 2500 BCE, and spread across New Guinea and the Pacific Islands very gradually for the next three and a half thousand years. The last place they reached was Aotearoa, (New Zealand), in about 1200 AD, four centuries before Tasman got there.
So the Maori came from Thailand (among other places), by a very long route.