Coronavirus Disease 2019 (COVID-19): Conspiracy Theories & Claims

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This Corona (crown is Spanish) virus had the CIA's fingerprints all over this from the start. It has been proven that the CIA released other viruses into the populus over the decades..
Ever wondered why a known CIA recruitment University is compiling the corona figures. Yup. John Hopkins Uni.

Hey Jock!! Surely John Hopkins has NOTHING to do with Fort Detrick??

Johns Hopkins University is a private research university in Baltimore, Maryland. (CIA)
is a United States Army Futures Command installation located in Frederick, Maryland.
The same Fort Detrick, the CIA's Base for Mind Control Experiments.

The really scary thing is this Plandemic/Scamdemic is just a "Dry-run"
Interestingly, a while back, I got a letter asking me if I would like to participate in a Covid-19 testing program. The results would be compiled by Johns Hopkins. I decided not to reply. I haven't had the Covid anyway (yet).
 

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I very much believe in cock up over conspiracy since I struggle to believe that governments actually have a plan and can control things rather than no plan and very little control! This is why I don't want dismiss the accidental release theory. It is not a conspiracy but a cock up. Of course there would then need to be a "conspiracy" to cover it up but then who wouldn't? It is hardly like owning up to having farted or having eaten the last slice of cake. It is a tad more serious than that.

Nice bit of Good Cop Bad Cop from the WHO this week. Maybe there is hope for them after all? Notice Dr Embarek's wording here.
"Usually"
Yep, Hanlon's Razor* needs to be applied to this whole situation. I (personally) feel that a balls-up may have led to the initial exposure of people to the novel (to humans) Coronavirus and then arse-covering was given a higher priority than containment.

Remember the accidental leakage of Foot & Mouth from Pirbright military labs about 15 years ago?

*https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hanlon's_razor
 

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China did shut down flights from Wuhan to the rest of China but not from Wuhan to the rest of the world. That could also be a cock up, but it could be more.
 

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Interestingly, a while back, I got a letter asking me if I would like to participate in a Covid-19 testing program. The results would be compiled by Johns Hopkins. I decided not to reply. I haven't had the Covid anyway (yet).
No and I don't think you will catch it. I won't. In fact, the leader of the country i am in stated I "wasn't allowed to get it" (being an International truck driver). If this was a REAL virus with such a potential devastating effect, EVERYBODY would be at risk, including the police, Army, Diplomats and truck drivers

But get wise. These testing stations are here to stay for a very long time. Travel WILL become the norm only after you have been tested, at the PRICE they see fit to extort from you, If they don't like your face....it's positive.You travel nowhere
Many Airlines are clamouring for COVID PASSPORTS
 

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But get wise. These testing stations are here to stay for a very long time. Travel WILL become the norm only after you have been tested, at the PRICE they see fit to extort from you, If they don't like your face....it's positive.You travel nowhere
Many Airlines are clamouring for COVID PASSPORTS
Yes, I hope this doesn't get intrusive or expensive.
 

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Yes, I hope this doesn't get intrusive or expensive.
I think it will. Look at last summer. book holiday, get there, Government changes mind and your in a RED Area.
Now "RED Areas" MUST, With threat of 10 years imprisonment, Quarantine at a hotel appointed BY THEM and you have to bear the cost.
Looks like those Elitists are about to get richer at your vacation expense.
 

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I think it will. Look at last summer. book holiday, get there, Government changes mind and your in a RED Area.
Now "RED Areas" MUST, With threat of 10 years imprisonment, Quarantine at a hotel appointed BY THEM and you have to bear the cost.
Looks like those Elitists are about to get richer at your vacation expense.
It was a stupid idea to book a foreign holiday last year (and this) not knowing what was going to happen.
 

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I think it will. Look at last summer. book holiday, get there, Government changes mind and your in a RED Area.
Now "RED Areas" MUST, With threat of 10 years imprisonment, Quarantine at a hotel appointed BY THEM and you have to bear the cost.
Looks like those Elitists are about to get richer at your vacation expense.
[Darkly]Yes. £1700 is rather a lot of money in these times.
 

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Ever wondered why a known CIA recruitment University is compiling the corona figures. Yup. John Hopkins Uni.
Ever wondered why the MI6-recruiting University Oxford was actively developing a vaccine? Yup, because it's also a bloody university.

I'm sure the US intelligence services do recruit at Hopkins, as indeed they probably do at all the high-ranking Unis, but that's not Hopkins' exclusive business. Intel involvement doesn't indicate Intel control.
 

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It's a lot of money when the holiday might only cost £600.
£1700 to get back into your house!! it's verging on blackmail
It’s to stop people going. Especially when there’s different variants circulating. A holiday isn’t essential. Also Australia has been doing this for ages and they have got a better handle on things.
 

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Ever wondered why the MI6-recruiting University Oxford was actively developing a vaccine? Yup, because it's also a bloody university.

I'm sure the US intelligence services do recruit at Hopkins, as indeed they probably do at all the high-ranking Unis, but that's not Hopkins' exclusive business. Intel involvement doesn't indicate Intel control.
Do you need a University to compile numbers?
"Intel involvement doesn't indicate Intel control" Certainly not. Keeping it "In-house" means you can manipulate those figures to the desired result.
 

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Do you need a University to compile numbers?
"Intel involvement doesn't indicate Intel control" Certainly not. Keeping it "In-house" means you can manipulate those figures to the desired result.
OK, to take it a step further - are you then saying that if the above is happening then it constitutes evidence that the figures, or indeed the disease itself are subject to directive control for reason or reasons unknown?
 

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If this was a REAL virus with such a potential devastating effect, EVERYBODY would be at risk, including the police, Army, Diplomats and truck drivers
When being dogmatic about your own experience, please remember that people here have had it, that their families, friends, colleagues and aquaintances have had it and that their people have died from it.

Not only are all groups at risk, all groups get it, and all groups have deaths. Maugre the super rich and those who normally have large security plans.

Conspiracy theories cannot be stated as fact - unless each step is carefully argued, supported by evidence and assigned probability ratings!

Insisting that something is FACT, especially in block capitals in a hectoring and dismissive manner, is unlikely to persuade - or even interest - many people here.

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It’s to stop people going. Especially when there’s different variants circulating. A holiday isn’t essential. Also Australia has been doing this for ages and they have got a better handle on things.
Remind me. How many variants are there now? Two? Original and S.Africa/UK variant or is the "Kent" variant included as well.
A holiday might not be essential but travel may well be for a multitude of reasons including medical
Australia like New Zealand is at risk of turning into a dictatorship.
If this carries on for another few years, Democracy will be at risk.
 

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The problem is people were asked not to travel, not to expose others to it and the people ignored it.
If you don't do what you are asked to do then you'll be forced to do it for the good of everyone.
"We asked you folks nicely, and gave you the reasons. But you decided that your You Tube 'experts' knew better and ignored us. So now we aint askin', we're tellin'!"
It's not a risk to democracy, it's a risk to the population.
Variants are created by spread, as far as I see. Spread within a community, not necessarily a different country. The more an organism reproduces, the higher chance of mutation. So if, for instance, you had a single city that allowed a virus to run rampant, the virus would have more opportunity to mutate in, say, a much more virulent form. And this virulent form can spread from said city.
 

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When being dogmatic about your own experience, please remember that people here have had it, that their families, friends, colleagues and aquaintances have had it and that their people have died from it.

Not only are all groups at risk, all groups get it, and all groups have deaths. Maugre the super rich and those who normally have large security plans.

Conspiracy theories cannot be stated as fact - unless each step is carefully argued, supported by evidence and assigned probability ratings!

Insisting that something is FACT, especially in block capitals in a hectoring and dismissive manner, is unlikely to persuade - or even interest - many people here.

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They have been told they have it. Nobody is given proof. You've got it/panic.
Most of the UK covid deaths have been over-exaggerated by other causes. What, i believe they are called 2nd/3rd/4th causes. All these are reported as covid deaths.

The majority of the general public don't know what coronavirus looks like. Here are 3 pictures of viruses. Which are corona and which aren't.

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2)
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All i'm trying to do is point out that you only know what the MSM/Govn tell you.
so. 1,2,3 which if any are the coronavirus?
 
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My post was friendly staff guidance about your posting style and what is acceptable here. We recommend that new people, especially if they seem to have difficulties engaging with the debate, take the time to read up in forums which are not their area of passion so that they acclimatise without a red mist descending :)

@Jock Abroad You need to sort out your formatting. Let me know if you need help, I can edit your post and it's not a problem.

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The problem is people were asked not to travel, not to expose others to it and the people ignored it.
If you don't do what you are asked to do then you'll be forced to do it for the good of everyone.
"We asked you folks nicely, and gave you the reasons. But you decided that your You Tube 'experts' knew better and ignored us. So now we aint askin', we're tellin'!"
It's not a risk to democracy, it's a risk to the population.
Variants are created by spread, as far as I see. Spread within a community, not necessarily a different country. The more an organism reproduces, the higher chance of mutation. So if, for instance, you had a single city that allowed a virus to run rampant, the virus would have more opportunity to mutate in, say, a much more virulent form. And this virulent form can spread from said city.
"If you don't do what you are asked to do then you'll be forced to do it for the good of everyone." that is a dictatorship under the guise of "for the good of everyone.
That statement reminds me of the Hitler govn telling the Germans to Hunt and expose the jews "for the good of everyone.". Yeah that didn't turn out well. Yes. that was a serious risk to Democracy.
When this first broke it was a "Contact" virus which them mulated into an "Airborne" virus. The power that shouldn't be will always tell you the next variant is more XXX(pick your desired choice).
Governments are there to run the country, not run your life. If you let them run your life then your freedom is gone.
 

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My post was friendly staff guidance about your posting style and what is acceptable here. We recommend that new people, especially if they seem to have difficulties engaging with the debate, take the time to read up in forums which are not their area of passion so that they acclimatise without a red mist descending :)

@Jock Abroad You need to sort out your formatting. Let me know if you need help, I can edit your post and it's not a problem.

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No thanks. I don't need others to sensor my free speech. Ever thought of working for the Government. :p
 

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That one.
Exactly. This is my point. ALL THREE have been used as the coronavirus
1) was used by the RCN(Royal College of Nursing)
2) was used by newscientist.com
3) was used by mdclarity.com

All these pictures look totally different
Nobody in the general public knows. They shove any old photo up there and your told to believe.
 

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OK, to take it a step further - are you then saying that if the above is happening then it constitutes evidence that the figures, or indeed the disease itself are subject to directive control for reason or reasons unknown?
basically. YES.
 

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Exactly. This is my point. ALL THREE have been used as the coronavirus
1) was used by the RCN(Royal College of Nursing)
2) was used by newscientist.com
3) was used by mdclarity.com

All these pictures look totally different
Nobody in the general public knows. They shove any old photo up there and your told to believe.
These pictures are for illustrative purposes only - none of them are actual photos, but computer generated images. "Stock images", so you can blame the web page designer over any kind of conspiracy.
 

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Ever wondered why the MI6-recruiting University Oxford was actively developing a vaccine? Yup, because it's also a bloody university.

I'm sure the US intelligence services do recruit at Hopkins, as indeed they probably do at all the high-ranking Unis, but that's not Hopkins' exclusive business. Intel involvement doesn't indicate Intel control.
Correct. Many gov agencies recruit at colleges and grad schools. I guarantee that the FBI, NIA, CIA, NID ( :)) peace corps and all the armed services have regular routes thru Hopkins, as they did thru my undergrad and grad schools. Hopkins has a well-funded and top flight med school and was the go to data collector for c19 from day 1.
 
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