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Gotta say that I have never been convinced by the whole Royal connection thing, whether pointing the finger at the Duke of Clarence and Avondale or Sickert.
I was pretty much a Tumblety subscriber, in so far as the profile seemed to fit. He was a working class porn peddlar abandoned by his parents to make his living on the St Laurence. He was not, to my knowledge a homosexual, which is important because there is, AFAIK, no recorded case of a homosexual serial killer who targeted women.
In terms of the profile though, that famous one from the FBI, I do not agree with the the disorganised asocial killer. I think that quite the opposite, the post mortem disfigurement and mutilation show a consistancy that is more in keeping with the organised killer. Now that comes with provisios in that the "double act" was more than likely disturbed, as was the one disturbed by the cartman. But the consistant use of the knife, even knives of various lengths suggests less a killer of opportunity and more like an evolved MO.
What I would say is that the whole Masonic connection suggested by the Stephen Knight" interpretation is complete rubbish. The three conspirators of Hiram Abif legend were not called the Jubelo, Jubela, and Jubelum nor were later investigators able to find reference to this information.
Finally, I think the fact that there is strong evidence for all of the "Dear Boss" lettersbeing fakes, is too often overlooked. It is almost certain that two journalists one for the new at the time Star and one for the Pall Mall gazette, cooked up those letters to give the story a spicy name.
Has anyone read Philip Sugden's The Complete history of Jack the Ripper? Very good compilation with excellent analysis.
I still think Tumbelty is the best candidate and Littlechild's interest in him, I think was more than Fenian related as Tumblety made only donations to the Fenian cause as opposed being a part of it. Has anyone got any hard evidence of Tumblety not being in the country when a murder happened, except for Martha Tabram (Turner) cause I don't think she was an actual Ripper victim.
Great thread
LD
I was pretty much a Tumblety subscriber, in so far as the profile seemed to fit. He was a working class porn peddlar abandoned by his parents to make his living on the St Laurence. He was not, to my knowledge a homosexual, which is important because there is, AFAIK, no recorded case of a homosexual serial killer who targeted women.
In terms of the profile though, that famous one from the FBI, I do not agree with the the disorganised asocial killer. I think that quite the opposite, the post mortem disfigurement and mutilation show a consistancy that is more in keeping with the organised killer. Now that comes with provisios in that the "double act" was more than likely disturbed, as was the one disturbed by the cartman. But the consistant use of the knife, even knives of various lengths suggests less a killer of opportunity and more like an evolved MO.
What I would say is that the whole Masonic connection suggested by the Stephen Knight" interpretation is complete rubbish. The three conspirators of Hiram Abif legend were not called the Jubelo, Jubela, and Jubelum nor were later investigators able to find reference to this information.
Finally, I think the fact that there is strong evidence for all of the "Dear Boss" lettersbeing fakes, is too often overlooked. It is almost certain that two journalists one for the new at the time Star and one for the Pall Mall gazette, cooked up those letters to give the story a spicy name.
Has anyone read Philip Sugden's The Complete history of Jack the Ripper? Very good compilation with excellent analysis.
I still think Tumbelty is the best candidate and Littlechild's interest in him, I think was more than Fenian related as Tumblety made only donations to the Fenian cause as opposed being a part of it. Has anyone got any hard evidence of Tumblety not being in the country when a murder happened, except for Martha Tabram (Turner) cause I don't think she was an actual Ripper victim.
Great thread
LD