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yellowbentine

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This is a “Mandela Effect” that happened to me, but I haven’t seen discussed anywhere else.

I watched the 2006 James Bond movie Casino Royale when it was released. I actually saw it twice on the big screen. I’ll have probably rented the DVD when it was released and recorded it when it came to TV. Since then, I’ve rewatched some favourite scenes from time to time.

One scene that I remember is when Bond pretends to be a hotel valet in order to gain access to a CCTV room. He is wearing a short sleeved white shirt with epaulettes - presumably to look more like a staff member. He then goes to reception to check in as a guest. In my recollection, he ripped off the epaulettes before doing this, which I remember thinking was a neat little field-craft trick.

Relatively recently, I rewatched this scene and was shocked to see that, although the shirt has epaulettes, they remain untouched and are still on Bond’s shoulders when he checks in.

I’ve been on the fence about various Mandela Effects and can’t really relate to some of them - but this is undeniable to me because I know what I saw.
 
I've only seen those Bond movies once, yet I have a distinct memory of seeing someone in an espionage setting yanking epaulettes from a shirt. I'm going to suggest it's from a different movie, perhaps even another Bond movie, and you remember it in that scene because it seems to fit.
 
PeteByrdie said:
I've only seen those Bond movies once, yet I have a distinct memory of seeing someone in an espionage setting yanking epaulettes from a shirt. I'm going to suggest it's from a different movie, perhaps even another Bond movie, and you remember it in that scene because it seems to fit.
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Yes, usually done (in films) to a soldier who has committed an infringement of some kind and being stripped of their rank.
 
Floyd said:
Yes, usually done (in films) to a soldier who has committed an infringement of some kind and being stripped of their rank.
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Yeah, I'm aware of that ritual, but I specifically have the memory of someone in an espionage situation doing it to their own shirt. Probably in a movie I've seen only once.
 
yellowbentine said:
This is a “Mandela Effect” that happened to me, but I haven’t seen discussed anywhere else.

I watched the 2006 James Bond movie Casino Royale when it was released. I actually saw it twice on the big screen. I’ll have probably rented the DVD when it was released and recorded it when it came to TV. Since then, I’ve rewatched some favourite scenes from time to time.

One scene that I remember is when Bond pretends to be a hotel valet in order to gain access to a CCTV room. He is wearing a short sleeved white shirt with epaulettes - presumably to look more like a staff member. He then goes to reception to check in as a guest. In my recollection, he ripped off the epaulettes before doing this, which I remember thinking was a neat little field-craft trick.

Relatively recently, I rewatched this scene and was shocked to see that, although the shirt has epaulettes, they remain untouched and are still on Bond’s shoulders when he checks in.

I’ve been on the fence about various Mandela Effects and can’t really relate to some of them - but this is undeniable to me because I know what I saw.
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One thing to bear in mind is that some versions of films are slightly different from each other in different countries, DVD releases and 'director's versions'. It's entirely possible that your memory is true and the clips you've seen since are from a different release version. You'd have to get a variety of DVDs of the same film and watch them all to check :)
 
AnonyJ said:
One thing to bear in mind is that some versions of films are slightly different from each other in different countries, DVD releases and 'director's versions'. It's entirely possible that your memory is true and the clips you've seen since are from a different release version. You'd have to get a variety of DVDs of the same film and watch them all to check :)
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Good point. Can remember the several available versions of Ghostbusters, including the TV one where the more family-friendly insult 'Pencil-Neck' was substituted for 'Pencil-Dick'.
I saw both and there was head-scratching. :chuckle:
 
escargot said:
Good point. Can remember the several available versions of Ghostbusters, including the TV one where the more family-friendly insult 'Pencil-Neck' was substituted for 'Pencil-Dick'.
I saw both and there was head-scratching. :chuckle:
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One of the TV cuts of Repo Man uses the word 'melonfarmer' for another similar-ish but non-family-friendly insult, so I still use 'flip off, melonfarmer!', though usually in my head.
 
PeteByrdie said:
I've only seen those Bond movies once, yet I have a distinct memory of seeing someone in an espionage setting yanking epaulettes from a shirt. I'm going to suggest it's from a different movie, perhaps even another Bond movie, and you remember it in that scene because it seems to fit.
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Nope. I watched the scene several times before it changed.
 
AnonyJ said:
One thing to bear in mind is that some versions of films are slightly different from each other in different countries, DVD releases and 'director's versions'. It's entirely possible that your memory is true and the clips you've seen since are from a different release version. You'd have to get a variety of DVDs of the same film and watch them all to check :)
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Good point. I’d prefer to believe this than either I misremembered or the fabric of the universe is disintegrating.
 
Not a big fan of Steve Martin and I only rented a VHS copy of 'Dirty Rotten Scoundrels' (1988) because of a scene in the trailer (on another tape) where he casually pushed a lady off the quay. Recall nothing of the film itself but do remember looking out for the scene and oddly not seeing it. Had to wait for the invention of the Internet and Youtube before I could confirm I hadn't imagined anything - the scene in the film promotion wasn't in the film.

 
Bad Bungle said:
the scene in the film promotion wasn't in the film.
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This happens more often than you think, and led to a recent lawsuit -
Movie fans disappointed that their favourite actor was cut from a film after appearing in the trailer can sue the studio for false advertising, a US judge has ruled.

Two film buffs say Universal Pictures tricked them into renting 2019 flick Yesterday because the trailer featured actor Ana de Armas.

Peter Michael Rosza of San Diego and Conor Woulfe of Maryland say they forked over $3.99 each to watch the Richard Curtis comedy on Amazon Prime, only to discover that de Armas had not made the final cut.
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https://www.theguardian.com/film/20...an-sue-over-misleading-trailer-us-judge-rules

 
AnonyJ said:
One thing to bear in mind is that some versions of films are slightly different from each other in different countries, DVD releases and 'director's versions'. It's entirely possible that your memory is true and the clips you've seen since are from a different release version. You'd have to get a variety of DVDs of the same film and watch them all to check :)
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Exactly.
You're never quite sure whether you are watching the "theatrical version", "director's cut", "editor's choice", "restored version", "special edition", "extended version" or "TV edit".

The myriad versions of Alien and The Wicker Man out there spring to mind.
 
cycleboy2 said:
One of the TV cuts of Repo Man uses the word 'melonfarmer' for another similar-ish but non-family-friendly insult, so I still use 'flip off, melonfarmer!', though usually in my head.
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There is a fairly standard TV cut of the film that was included in the Criterion DVD. Strangely, it includes a party scene that was not in the theatrical version, but provides the motivation for the big chase near the end.

Bad Bungle said:
the scene in the film promotion wasn't in the film.
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A friend of mine used to work with a couple of women who made theatrical trailers. They confessed to editing an entire trailer for Excalibur around a swordfight that wasn't used in the film.
 
The Cliffhanger trailer featured Stallone leaping across the screen as if borne on wings. Wasn’t in the movie iirc.
 
Everyone is moaning about scenes in the trailer that weren't in the film and I'm moaning about things in films that weren't in the book. From John Hamm's character in Amazon's Good Omens (what character was he supposed to be?) to the complete ineptitude of generations of filmmakers who can't seem to stick to the simple stories in The Secret Garden and A Wrinkle In Time (Oprah can burn in hell!)
 
Also, I was pleasantly surprised that the original The Andromeda Strain is nearly word for word straight out of the book. The biggest difference is Ruth's character was a man in the book...

That movie STILL creeps me out, bad sfx and all....
 
Aydee_Aitchdee said:
Also, I was pleasantly surprised that the original The Andromeda Strain is nearly word for word straight out of the book. The biggest difference is Ruth's character was a man in the book...

That movie STILL creeps me out, bad sfx and all....
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Never mind all that Aydee - you've never watched a Bond film?!
 
Bad Bungle said:
Not a big fan of Steve Martin and I only rented a VHS copy of 'Dirty Rotten Scoundrels' (1988) because of a scene in the trailer (on another tape) where he casually pushed a lady off the quay. Recall nothing of the film itself but do remember looking out for the scene and oddly not seeing it. Had to wait for the invention of the Internet and Youtube before I could confirm I hadn't imagined anything - the scene in the film promotion wasn't in the film.

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Now, those are some epaulettes right there.
 
Bond fillums - they were stuffed down Brits' throats in the '60s and '70s.

Can remember a schoolmate who'd seen Diamonds Are Forever at the cinema describing it in great detail to a small enthralled audience.
There were questions - ''old on, go back, bikini? How did she carry the gun?' :chuckle:
 
escargot said:
Bond fillums - they were stuffed down Brits' throats in the '60s and '70s.

Can remember a schoolmate who'd seen Diamonds Are Forever at the cinema describing it in great detail to a small enthralled audience.
There were questions - ''old on, go back, bikini? How did she carry the gun?' :chuckle:
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To be fair, it was the only way we knew it was Easter when a Bond film was on the telly. That or Chitty Chitty Bang Bang.
 
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