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Strange Crimes

Swifty said:
after a few men understandably chicken out
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I think that case found quite a lot of people looking at the websites concerned. The fact it took him seven years to find a partner willing to make the fantasy real tells us what the ratio of fantasy to reality is on such sites.

That question also was raised in connection with bug-chaser sites, where men were advertising for partners to make them HIV-positive.

I did once see a message board where blokes - and a few alleged women - fantasized about impaling. There were so many lunatic stories that you would expect our land to be manured with the blood of victims and evidence of the atrocious deeds. It isn't. Whether these fantasy areas enable enthusiasts to drain off their antisocial reveries or whether they stoke them is an open question. :freak:
 
Bit costly that air rage episode.

BERLIN (AP) — German police say the pilot of a passenger jet destined for Zurich made an unscheduled stop at Stuttgart airport because a Swiss passenger become aggressive after being denied champagne.

Reutlingen police say crew members were unable to calm the 44-year-old business class passenger, who was angered by their refusal to serve her more sparkling wine on the flight from Moscow late Saturday.

Police said in a statement Sunday that the woman, who wasn’t named, was escorted off the Airbus A320 and ordered to pay a security of 5,000 euros ($5,871).

https://apnews.com/5cd9b099bbbe4030...low&utm_source=Twitter&utm_medium=AP_Oddities
 
He deserves to get away with it! Idiots, leaving the door unlocked.

A man who chanced upon hundreds of thousands of euros after leaning on a door at Charles de Gaulle airport in France is thought to have been homeless.

Local police say they recognised him in security footage as one of many people who sleep rough near the airport.

The door of the Loomis cash management company in terminal 2F had been left unlocked and the man, in his fifties, walked back out with two bags of cash.

He is now being sought by police.

At about 17:30 (16:30 GMT) last Friday, an alarm sounded at the cash management company's offices.

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-42343604
 
A strange crime which remains unsolved. Definitely a cold case.

A month after she went missing, the body of 17-year old Anne Noblett was found frozen almost solid. It had been a mild winter and the discovery made little sense. How did the teenager, who was fully clothed and still wearing her glasses, end up ice-cold in woodland five miles from where she was last seen?

On the Monday she disappeared, 30 December 1957, the Watford Technical College student had been to a dance lesson with friends.

Telling them: "I'll see you on Friday" she got on the 391 bus from Harpenden in Hertfordshire to make her way back to Marshalls Heath and the comfortable home she shared with her brothers, mother and father, who was a successful businessman.

She was spotted by a friend after she got off at the bus close to her home at about 1800 GMT. And then she vanished.

But why was her body found frozen? Who had done this? And at a time when most people did not have access to refrigeration units - how? As one local newspaper put it, it was "one of the most sinister crimes of the century that even if it had been fiction would have seemed too diabolical".

http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-beds-bucks-herts-42341980
 
ramonmercado said:
A strange crime which remains unsolved. Definitely a cold case.

A month after she went missing, the body of 17-year old Anne Noblett was found frozen almost solid. It had been a mild winter and the discovery made little sense. How did the teenager, who was fully clothed and still wearing her glasses, end up ice-cold in woodland five miles from where she was last seen?

On the Monday she disappeared, 30 December 1957, the Watford Technical College student had been to a dance lesson with friends.

Telling them: "I'll see you on Friday" she got on the 391 bus from Harpenden in Hertfordshire to make her way back to Marshalls Heath and the comfortable home she shared with her brothers, mother and father, who was a successful businessman.

She was spotted by a friend after she got off at the bus close to her home at about 1800 GMT. And then she vanished.

But why was her body found frozen? Who had done this? And at a time when most people did not have access to refrigeration units - how? As one local newspaper put it, it was "one of the most sinister crimes of the century that even if it had been fiction would have seemed too diabolical".

http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-beds-bucks-herts-42341980
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I was reading this earlier, very strange. I wonder if it was a kidnapping for ransom attempt gone wrong, in fact of her belonging to a wealthy family.

One sentence struck me as odd -
"Even her glasses were on, although not in the proper position," he said.
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I wonder what it means? If her glasses were simply askew I hardly think it's worth mentioning.
 
David Plankton said:
I was reading this earlier, very strange. I wonder if it was a kidnapping for ransom attempt gone wrong, in fact of her belonging to a wealthy family. ...
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I'm agnostic about the kidnapping angle, but it seems to me there's more than enough room to suspect she didn't die the night she disappeared (30 December 1957).

To the vague and inconsistent extent the inquest testimony is reported, it appears the primary reason for believing she'd died the same day was the discovery of 'undigested' food material. She's alleged to have eaten circa 1430 on 30 December.

I can't find any source claiming the undigested food matched the food she ate on the afternoon of the 30th. Even if it were, it could have been the result of two similar meals eaten on two different days.

The final sighting (@ 1800, roughly a quarter mile from Anne's home) is often cited in terms of Anne having been seen getting off the bus. This doesn't match the most detailed account I can find from Shirley Edwards (the last witness):

"I saw her [Anne] outside the Cherry Tree public house on the Luton road. She was at the bus stop but whether she was getting on or off a bus I don't know."
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Hertfordshire Murders, Nicholas Connell, Ruth Stratton, Chapter 18. Accessible via Google Books at:

https://books.google.com/books?id=a...KHctjAyYQ6AEISTAI#v=onepage&q=noblett&f=false

The weather during January 1958 wasn't uniformly 'mild'. According to the Met Office's monthly report for that month:

https://www.metoffice.gov.uk/binaries/content/assets/mohippo/pdf/3/f/jan1958.pdf

... there was a significant cold snap with substantial snow from circa the 17th through circa the 23rd / 24th, with a notable rise in temperatures following around the 25th / 26th. During this period the monthly report mentions notably low temperatures (below freezing for days; air temps dropping below 0 F).

Monthly climate data for the two closest archival stations (Heathrow and Oxford) show January was the coldest month that winter, with max / min temps of 6.6 / 1.0 C (Oxford) and 6.8 / 0.9 C (Heathrow).

Unless there were more detailed forensic results matching the body's gastric contents to the last known meal, I don't see any reason to rule out the notion Anne lived for some time past the 30th and was left in the woods around the time of the late January cold snap.

It was the presumption of immediate murder (on the 30th) and the remarkably good state of the body that caused the authorities to spin off on the 'deep freeze' theory. Maybe they jumped to a wrong conclusion early on ...
 
I'm not sure how often buses ran between Harpenden and Wheathampstead in the early evening as of 1958. This makes me wonder about the timeline of events. (Qualified, again, with respect to the scattered and vague nature of the available reports ... )

Based mainly on the Connell and Stratton book (cited above; the most specific source I've seen ... ):

- Anne said goodbye to others at the dance event (variously described as a dance class in 'rock and roll dance' or a dance) at 1740.

- Anne subsequently phoned home, telling her mother she'd missed the bus, she'd catch the next available bus, and she was bringing home some mushrooms.

- Shirley Edwards' sighting of Anne was stated to have occurred circa 1803.

The travel distance isn't far, but I still have to wonder if 23 minutes reasonably encompasses the time from leaving friends at the dance event, through the phone call home, to Edwards' seeing her at the bus stop outside the pub in Wheathampstead.

According to Connell and Stratton, Anne's father arrived home around 1840, and his wife stated Anne was expected to arrive "any minute." It wouldn't be until 2100 that Anne's parents became concerned and started making phone calls.

According to this online text transcription of, or from, Paul Adams' 2012 Ghosts & Gallows:

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct...adams&text=1&usg=AOvVaw15A7esteW3XECH2ObpJoNg

... Anne "was expected home just before seven o'clock."

These two sources (for what they're worth ... ) seem to indicate Anne's mother was under the impression Anne's missing the bus would result in a delay of circa 1 hour after her phone call home.

So how did Anne make it to Wheathampstead by 1803?

I can't find any mention of anyone confirming she was on the bus that evening. Many regurgitators of the story claim Anne stepped off the bus, or even that Edwards observed her doing so, but (as noted earlier) the most explicit account of the sole witness's sighting doesn't support this claim.
 
The timeline, etc., items noted above cause me to wonder:

- Did Anne fib to her mother about her delay / ETA, so as to fit in some side-trip or side-activity?

- Did Anne actually travel to Wheathampstead via the bus?

- Could she have traveled to Wheathampstead in someone else's vehicle? (I.e., could she have been in someone's car before anyone would later suspect she could have been?)

- Could Edwards have been mistaken about seeing Anne, and Anne never made it back to Wheathampstead at all?

- Was Anne waiting outside the pub on an unknown third party for a meeting spontaneously arranged to occupy the extra hour she'd led her mother to believe would pass before her arrival home?

For all I know, the detailed police records make these questions go away.
 
Concerning the cold snap circa the 17th (noted above from Met Office records) ...

Some accounts mention Anne's body had lain where it was found for 'up to a fortnight', based on circa 2 weeks' difference in the growth of ferns and snowdrops between the surrounding vegetation and the plants underneath her body. At least one account cites this difference, but spins it as indicating she'd been lying there 'at least a fortnight'.

In any case ... She was found on the 31st, and a fortnight's rewind would align with the onset of the notable cold snap.
 
ramonmercado said:
A month after she went missing, the body of 17-year old Anne Noblett was found frozen almost solid. It had been a mild winter and the discovery made little sense. How did the teenager, who was fully clothed and still wearing her glasses, end up ice-cold in woodland five miles from where she was last seen?
http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-beds-bucks-herts-42341980
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I would be looking for someone with a very large freezer. The bloodwork will show she has been moved, is my bet.
 
AlchoPwn said:
I would be looking for someone with a very large freezer. The bloodwork will show she has been moved, is my bet.
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In those days (1957) almost no-one had those kinds of freezer and they ran that angle to ground, including all commercial freezer units, which were more common than domestic ones, back then. You were lucky in 1957 if you had a fridge with an ice box.
 
Coal said:
In those days (1957) almost no-one had those kinds of freezer and they ran that angle to ground, including all commercial freezer units, which were more common than domestic ones, back then. You were lucky in 1957 if you had a fridge with an ice box.
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Good call. I failed to notice the date. I guess that means arrest everyone from the local butcher's shop?
 
Cop, wife plead guilty in death plots, sex assault case:

A woman who sought several times to have her husband killed after he coerced her to stay in their marriage by threatening to reveal her sexual abuse of a 14-year-old boy has pleaded guilty, Monroe County authorities said.



Robin and Keith Transue have pleaded guilty to charges she tried to have him killed and he coerced her to stay in their marriage, authorities say. And the husband who coerced her has also pleaded guilty, authorities said.

Robin Transue pleaded to solicitation to commit aggravated assault and statutory sexual assault, authorities said. She faces up to 30 years behind bars and a $50,000 fine on the two felony charges. Numerous charges were withdrawn.

Keith Transue faces up to two years behind bars and a $5,000 fine on the misdemeanor charge of criminal coercion. Remaining charges were withdrawn.

Robin Transue drew friend Richard Warner into several incomplete plots to kill Keith Transue -- including a proposed hunting accident, a house fire and the use of medication to cause a heart attack, the district attorney's office said.

Warner alerted law enforcement and agreed to wear a wire, authorities said.

The death plots came after Keith Transue found out about Robin Transue's sexual involvement in 2010 with a 14-year-old boy, the district attorney's office said.

Keith Transue didn't report the crimes in return for his wife staying married to him, authorities said.

"He would later tell a fellow officer that he had dirt on his wife that he would use if she tried to leave him," the district attorney's office said in a news release.

http://www.lehighvalleylive.com/news/index.ssf/2017/12/cop_wife_plead_guilty_in_case.html

maximus otter
 
This man has pleaded guilty to murdering his girlfriend. Sadly not an unusual crime, but he has already been convicted of killing TWO previous partners and served time.

Man who killed former partners pleads guilty to murdering ex-girlfriend

A man who killed two women he was in relationships with is facing life in prison after pleading guilty to murdering a third woman.

On the first day of his trial at the Old Bailey in London, Theodore Johnson, 64, admitted to attacking his girlfriend Angela Best with a claw hammer and then strangling her with a cord in December 2016.

His guilty plea means it can now be reported that Johnson was previously twice convicted of manslaughter.

In 1981, he killed his then wife, Yvonne Johnson, after an argument. He hit her with a vase before pushing her off the balcony of their ninth-floor flat in Wolverhampton. He was convicted at Stafford crown court in November that year.

After his release he went on to kill Yvonne Bennett 11 years later, strangling her with a belt at their home in Finsbury Park, north London. In March 1993, at the Old Bailey he was convicted of killing Bennett by diminished responsibility.
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Baffled that he wasn't doing life.
 
Did you get the death penalty for manslaughter? Not "you" personally, of course.
 
GNC said:
Did you get the death penalty for manslaughter? Not "you" personally, of course.
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Thanks for the clarification!

It was a capital offence centuries ago, but not - I think - recently.

My point was that either:

a) He was so obviously and floridly doolally that he should have been locked up sine die, sparing two other lives, or;

b) He managed to convince the prosecutors and a jury that - although he beat his first victim with a vase then threw her off a ninth-floor balcony - he didn't actually mean to kill her. Quite a legal feat...

maximus otter
 
Maybe he was going to shoot the remaining apple strudel off their heads with the crossbow.

A man who laced his parents' apple strudel with drugs and planned to kill them with a crossbow has been indefinitely detained.

Richard Hignett, of Wootton, Bedfordshire, admitted administering drugs to enable the murder of his parents.

Luton Crown Court heard he planned to kill his parents James and Stephanie and himself, in March 2017.

The 32-year-old was suffering with paranoid schizophrenia at the time.

The court heard Hignett, who has been detained in a mental health unit, laced the strudel and his parents' hot drinks with a potentially lethal dose of a muscle relaxant.

http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-beds-bucks-herts-42583266
 
rynner2 said:
A strange and horrific crime:

Mafia 'fed rival to pigs while he was still alive'
Italian mobsters beat rival gangster with metal bars before feeding him to pigs, police investigation claims
By Nick Squires, Rome
3:25PM GMT 28 Nov 2013

Mafia mobsters allegedly beat a rival gangster with metal bars and then fed him to pigs while he was still alive, it has emerged from an investigation by the Italian police.
Francesco Raccosta was allegedly fed to the pigs, which are prized for their ability to dispose of most of a human body, as part of a bloody turf war between two clans belonging to the 'Ndrangheta mafia of Calabria, in the far south of Italy.

The horrific killing is reminiscent of a scene in the film Snatch, directed by Guy Ritchie, in which a British gangster called Brick Top recommends disposing of a dead body by feeding it to pigs.

The murder of Raccosta was allegedly led by Simone Pepe, 24, a rival gangster, who was arrested this week.
He described the killing in chilling terms to a friend in a telephone conversation that was intercepted by police.
“It was satisfying to hear him scream...Mamma mia, how he squealed, but I couldn’t give a s---. Someone said a few bits of him remained at the end of it all, but I couldn’t see anything, for me nothing remained at all. I said, wow, how a pig can eat!”

Pepe is suspected of having carried out at least three other murders, including that of Vincenzo Raccosta, the father of Francesco Raccosta.
The murders were allegedly committed as revenge for the death of mafia boss Domenico Bonarrigo, 45, on March 3 2012.
The murder involving the pigs allegedly took place 10 days later, as a bitter feud between a clan led by the Raccosta and Ferraro families and a rival group led by the Mazzagatti family span out of control.

Evidence of the murder came to light during an investigation by police into the 'Ndrangheta’s business enterprises in Calabria and Rome, which resulted in the seizure this week of property and other assets worth 70 million euros.
The mafia organisation, which makes millions of pounds a year from cocaine trafficking, extortion and other crimes, has for years invested its profits in legitimate businesses.

The police codenamed their operation “Erinni” — the Italian for Erinyes, who were goddesses of vengeance in Greek mythology, corresponding to the Furies of Roman mythology.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldne ... alive.html

Still, I expect the killers went to confession afterwards, so that's all right then...
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More on the 'Ndrangheta, this time they're force feeding Italian pasta to Germans rather than mobsters to pigs.

Police in Italy and Germany have made 169 arrests in an anti-mafia swoop, Italian police say.

Assets worth €50m (£44.06m; $59.79m) were seized in the operation targeting the 'Ndrangheta organised crime group.

As part of the group's activities, German restaurants were forced to buy wine, pizza dough and pastries made in southern Italy, police say.

Those arrested include the president of Crotone province, Nicodemo Parrilla, in Italy's Calabria region.

The investigation focused on the Farao-Marincola gang, one of the strongest in Calabria, Italian news agency Ansa reports, quoting police.

In Germany, arrests were made in the Hessen and Baden-Württemberg regions.

The 'Ndrangheta network is based in southern Italy but has expanded its reach into the rest of Europe, the BBC's James Reynolds reports from Rome. ...

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-42618825?ocid=socialflow_twitter
 
Must try this next time I'm bored.

A Russian man has been arrested after he reportedly stole an armoured vehicle and crashed it into a shop in a town north of the Arctic Circle.

According to regional news outlet Hibinform.ru, the unnamed culprit took the vehicle from a driving school, before failing to negotiate a bend, destroying a car, and crashing into the shop front in the north-western town of Apatity.

He's also suspected of stealing a bottle of wine from the supermarket, and "it was with this very bottle that policemen detained him," Hibinform says.

Little is currently known about the suspect, but Russian TV channel Vesti says he was "bored" and took the tracked vehicle from the driving school operated by DOSAAF, a voluntary organisation which cooperates with the armed forces in Russia.

Police in the Murmansk region are now considering criminal charges, local media reports.
http://www.bbc.com/news/blogs-news-from-elsewhere-42634753
 
(post removed and sent to the penis theft thread instead)
 
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