The Invention Of Jesus

[Xanatic*]

Did the Jesus wanted poster read "Jesus H. Christ. Wanted alive, and dead, and alive again."?

 

[stu neville]

“The Romans issued a wanted poster for Jesus, which still survives, describing him as short (about four foot six), bald-headed, and hump-backed“

I'd watch The Greatest Story Ever Told with Marty Feldman in the lead, any day.
"Just popping out to feed the five thousand, dear."

 

[Naughty_Felid]

Strewth that looks like the chap that runs the local kebab house..

The Lord moves in mysterious ways...

 

[AlchoPwn]

There’s a reconstruction picture of him taken in 2015.

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https://www.independent.co.uk/news/...rists-face-using-ancient-skulls-a6772926.html

Itsa me! Mario! Whera mya hat at?

 

[AlchoPwn]

Just poking around in this older thread and I do have to say: "Harbor a criminal class"? "Not above some dishonesty"? Don't think so and no more than all the other people in the world. "Prefer to see Jews geting promoted"? Not in my observation. Why the Russians persecuted them and they were driven out of other countries? Something to do with wanting the land and accumulated assets probably. And a great target when the people in power were doing a poor job and needed to deflect. And in every society there were a normal number of poor Jews. You can't both see them all as successful merchants, teachers and money-lenders and also enjoy Fiddler on the Roof, which was in fact extremely accurate because my grandmother told me it was. An objectionable lot of unverifiable generalizations in this post.

I have a slavic relative by marriage, and his babushka told me that in the old country in the old days, nobody would marry the Jews because they were gingers, not because they were Jews. I damn near snorted vodka out my nose.

 

[Ermintruder]

I am presuming that (almost?) everyone on this forum is already totally-familiar with the flawed masterpiece that is Peter Joseph's "Zeitgeist".

Whilst all of his material appears more motivated towards delivering sets of overall perspectives than insisting upon total accuracy within the tale, this video had been one of my runaway favourites for nearly 2 decades.

This is a YouTube extract of the 'Religion' chapter from that main piece of work, and I highly recommend, please, that you do watch it (and I beg you to not take any offence if you are conventionally-Christian in your personal beliefs).

 

[charliebrown]

No offense to the religious, but I have heard people say about the “unknown years” or 18 years between childhood and his first ministry.

I don’t know if this is true, but there was supposedly a complete void about these 18 years.

 

[Ermintruder]

I have heard people say about the “unknown years” or 18 years between childhood and his first ministry

It's fascinating to wonder whether some / all of the preceding 'Solar Messiahs' (Christ Candidates) had a similar gap in each of their life timelines.

Peter Josephs (the author) would assert yes, that they would all have such an evidential deficit (with them being, in his view, equal & interchangeable mythological charachters). Because all mythforms drop ready-made.

One major paradox I've always puzzled over is: since pre-Christians were obviously Jews, they were waiting for the imminent arrival of a new true Messiah (at least in part because of Jacob the Slave's prophecies).

Jesus of Nazereth was then proclaimed (at least within the context of the Christian bible) as being "The King of the Jews". And yet from the perspective of the vast majority of Judaism, he was clearly not accepted as being legitimate in this role, either at the time or in retrospect.

This could be viewed as consistency in selective viewpoint from his "unchoosing people" or it could be interpreted as being yet another (major) reason to question the actual physical historicity of Jesus Christ.

 

[Steven]

There are plenty of apocryphal renderings of everything from Jesus's childhood to the dawn of his ministry; frankly though and having read some extracts, these don't seem very trustworthy accounts at all.

 

[pandacracker]

I watched an interview with Terry Jones from Monty Python saying the inspiration for the Life of Brian was when he discovered some sort of evidence of the execution/tomb/trial records (can't remember exactly what) of a Jeshua ben Josef about 60 years after the biblical Jeshua ben Josef.

 

[charliebrown]

Probably the strangest and probably unknown is that the town of Shingo, Japan claims Jesus lived and died in their town.

Shingo claims Jesus had a wife and three children and lived to the age 106 years old.

Shingo has a monument to Jesus and each year the town has a Jesus festival of 20,000 people.