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The Loch Ness Monster

Human_84 said:
Just today. Make sure you're zooming in all the way. It looks like a large white rope. I'll screenshot a picture if for some reason I'm the only one noticing it.
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Got it now. Probably an artefact of the imaging system, I'd say. If real, it's about 100' long!

I don't know how often they refresh the satellite images, but if the thing moves or changes shape over time it might be of interest. If it's something inanimate, however, it would probably still move under the action of wind-induced surface drift.
 
Hair on the camera lens.
 
Or possibly a wave from the wind. Although the ones further North aren't in the same orientation. Still, winds can move about a bit. (Can't recall how much they move around on the loch, just that there were some. And a bit of chop on the surface.)
 
mr edwards drove me and the fortean sidekick all round loch ness last year ... very garrulous chap ... been on that stretch of water his whole life ... recall seeing new photos in FT later in the year from him ... his theory ( at the time at least ) was some family of medium sized mammal swimming about ... he had his spot on the loch carefully under observation ...
 
If you row over the Loch Ness Monster you're in danger of capsizing, I'd have thought.
 
Charlie Sheen: I raised hell... and now I’ll raise Nessie
HOLLYWOOD hellraiser Charlie Sheen is planning a trip to Scotland – to hunt for the Loch Ness monster.

The Anger Management star, 47, is convinced he can solve the mystery of what lurks in the loch.

He revealed his madcap plan on Twitter, posing for a snap in what he called his “hunting gear”, a bronze battle helmet, along with friend Brian Peck.

Sheen was soon flooded with encouraging messages from fans all over the world wishing him the best of luck with the mission.

Marilyn Halley wrote: “its about time Nessie was found!! Thanks Charlie.”

Susie Sunshine added: “u are two great archeologists. let’s get ready for #lochness and take me with u!! :)”

But Alice Smith warned: “my dad’s house looks into Loch Ness, didnae see your monster lol.”

The first recorded sighting of a monstrous creature in Loch Ness was by St Columba in 565AD.

But it was Aldie Mackay who launched the modern myth, in 1933. A hotel manageress from Drumnadrochit, she reported “something resembling a whale” and months later, Hugh Gray saw an “object of considerable dimensions, making a big splash with spray on the surface of the loch”.

As news of the sightings gripped the public imagination, there were soon traffic jams on the roads around the loch.

Mrs Mackay later claimed that she had seen a huge fish, not the legendary Nessie.

Many expeditions have been launched in an effort to solve the mystery, with some hunters speculating that a colony of plesiosaurs has somehow survived and flourished.

But just this week geologist Luigi Piccardi said Nessie sightings were caused by bubbles from a “large and very active” fault line under the lake.

Dr Piccardi added: “There are various effects on the surface of the water that can be related to the activity of the fault.”

Sheen, who has battled crack and cocaine addiction, is no stranger to off-the-wall ideas.

The Platoon star has previously claimed to be a “warlock” and a “rock star from Mars” who can cure diseases with his mind.

He was sacked from sitcom Two And A Half Men after a meltdown in 2011 and is currently involved in a bitter child support battle with ex-wife Brooke Mueller, 35.
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http://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/412798 ... ise-Nessie
 
I thought he was supposed to be feeling better? All publicity is good publicity I suppose.
 
I reckon the Google map thing is boat wakes . The more I look at the image I reckon I can even see some boats around . It's a particularly busy spot for boats on the loch , being almost opposite Urquhart Castle . Still I suppose my 'boat wake' comment is the famous old chestnut to explain the monster.
 
back to the lines though, I think they're more likely sea foam than boat wakes, because having spent years on boats I know they disperse very quickly and will never make solid lines which start and stop at an exact point.
 
Found it. :lol:
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We have a new Nessie photo! You can see it at the link.

Finally, is this proof the Loch Ness monster exists?

AN AMATEUR photographer has captured the bizarre moment a large object moved just beneath the waters of Loch Ness, reigniting debate about the existence of Nessie.

David Elder, 50, took the snap at the Fort Augustus side of the lake. It appears to show a disturbance of some kind on the surface of the water.

Elder believes the only thing that could have caused it was a 'solid black object under the water', causing a ripple effect.

"Out of the corner of my right eye I caught site of a black area of water about 15ft (4.5 metres) long which developed into a kind of bow wave," he said.

"I'm convinced this was caused by a solid black object under the water. The water was very still at the time and there were no ripples coming off the wave and no other activity on the water.

"Water was definitely going over something solid and making the wave. It looks like the sort of wave perhaps created by a windsurfing board but there was nobody on the loch at the time, no boats, nothing.

"The disturbance in the water began moving up the Loch sideways. It is something I just can't explain."

Read more: http://www.news.com.au/travel/news/fina ... z2dDT5BhOf
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PS: There is also a video here: http://www.dailystar.co.uk/news/latest- ... ster-VIDEO
 
"Sceptics argue that a freak gust of wind could explain the snap."

As a sailor, I sometimes found myself becalmed in a race, and had to look around carefully for any hint of wind. These usually manifested themselves as cats paws on the water:
cat's-paw also cats·paw (ktspô)
n. pl. cat's-paws also cats·paws
1. A person used by another as a dupe or tool.
2. A light breeze that ruffles small areas of a water surface.
3. Nautical A knot made by twisting a section of rope to form two adjacent eyes through which a hook is passed, used in hoisting.

http://www.thefreedictionary.com/cat%27s-paw
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When the wind does return after a calm, you see cats paws spreading over wider areas of the water, followed by wavelets and increasing sizes of waves as the wind freshens. But the more wind there is, the wider the area it affects. Wind naturally spreads out as the air flows from higher pressure to lower pressure.

Katabatic winds can be stronger and quite sudden, (and some places in Scotland are prone to them), but they cover a much bigger area than the few square yards covered by the photo.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Katabatic_wind

In short, I've never experienced winds creating such a localised wave.

Fort Augustus is where the Caledonian Canal joins Loch Ness from the south - who knows what may have swum up there this time? Giant eel, perhaps? ;)
 
It does look a lot like a wave, I was hoping for a head raised above the surface with the bonus of a cheesy grin to the camera.
 
'Best ever' photograph of Loch Ness monster revealed as a fake
The photograph hailed as "the best ever taken of the Loch Ness monster" has been revealed to be an elaborate hoax by its creator.
2:42PM BST 04 Oct 2013

The picture appeared to show the curved, brown back of the monster submerged in the loch, and attracted world-wide attention when it was published last year.

So convincing was the photo that Nessie expert Steve Feltham called it "the best photograph I think I have ever seen".
Mr Feltham, who has dedicated 21 years of his life to hunting down the beast, added: "I think the images are fantastic - that's the animal I have been looking for all this time.

But now 61-year-old George Edwards, who operates a cruise boat on the loch, insisted his picture was "just a bit of fun".
He has admitted that 'Nessie' was nothing more than a carbon fibre hump that starred in The Truth Behind the Loch Ness Monster, a 2011 National Geographic documentary.

Mr Edwards, who was involved in the production of the documentary, said he had no regrets over the deception.
"Why should I feel guilty for having a bit of fun?" he asked. "These so-called experts come along with their theories about big waves and big fish, and their visitor centre, but I'm sick to death of them."

He added: "Where would Loch Ness be without the world's best known forgery, the Surgeon's Photograph?"

The Surgeon's photograph was taken in 1934 by Dr Kenneth Wilson and promptly published in the Daily Mail. It remains the most famous image associated with the mysterious monster.
In reality, vengeful big game hunter Marmaduke Wetherell had attached a wooden head and neck to a child's submarine toy after the newspaper mocked his quest to find the beast.

Mr Edwards claimed to have owned up to faking the picture days after it was released last August, but there is no record of his confession.
At the time he said: "I did not want to mention my sighting until I was sure that I had not photographed a log or something inanimate in the water in the water. I have friends in the USA who have friends in the military.
'They had my photo analysed and they have no doubt that I photographed an animate object in the water. I was really excited as I am sure that some strange creatures are lurking in the depths of Loch Ness."

Many theories have abounded over the years as to what kind of creature the Loch Ness monster could be. Popularly imagined as an ancestor of a plesiosaurs, a carnivorous marine reptile, one theory is that Nessie may quite simply be an overgrown sturgeon.

Speaking about Mr Edwards' photograph at the time, Mr Feltham said: "I would say it doesn’t prove what Nessie is, but it does prove what Nessie isn’t, a sturgeon which is a fish that has been put forward as one of the main explanations as to what Nessie could be but this hasn’t got a serrated spine like the sturgeon."

Mr Feltham has now criticised the forgery as harmful to both Mr Edwards' credibility and the Loch Ness Monster brand.
"It does the subject no good and damages his own reputation," he said. "When you read things like this in the papers, people will think it's all just a fairytale.
"But if you read the reports and books you're more likely to think that something is there to be explained. He's supposed to be taking people out on tours but he's nothing more than a faker and a liar."

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstop ... -fake.html

As more time passes, I find myself sliding further along the spectrum from sceptic to Skeptic....
 
As more time passes, I find myself sliding further along the spectrum from sceptic to Skeptic...
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..although on this photo I was skeptical from the start:

See pics and comments on previous page.
 
ANd Steve Feltham changed his mind very quickly and denounced it as a fake shortly after it was released. He even found the original model so a bit naughty of The Telegraph to trumpet his initial thoughts.
 
From the tabloids

"Did Charlie Sheen scare off Nessie?" This very bizarre question comes from the Sun, which reports that 2013 was the first year since 1925 with no reported sightings of the Loch Ness Monster. Sheen told a US talk show host he once "spent a night in a rowing boat on the loch with a torch and a bottle of whisky". Therefore, the Sun feels, the involvement of the actor "seems the only plausible explanation for her baffling disappearance".

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/blogs-the-papers-26093200

Not that I know (or care) who Charlie Sheen is... :twisted:
 
There were several reported sightings of Nessie last year and some film. ALl that happened is that the Bookies who sponsor the best sighting award decided not to hand it out.
 
lordmongrove said:
Loch Ness however is fresh water!
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Right but some fish are known to tolerate fresh water for periods of time. I suppose this episode lacked the proper investigation into that, and whether or not this creature (trying to avoid spoilers here) has the physical ability to traverse the river Ness and occupy the lake for a few days.

It was a great episode though. I hope at some point Jeremy Wade runs out of fish and starts looking into sighting accounts of true 'river monsters.'
 
Personally I just tuned out during this gripping two parter. Like that 'Atomic Assassin' episode the bits I do recall though make me worry that Jeremy has come full circle.

I'm not trying to be funny, but how do you feel about the P&T business?
 
We answerd all of P&T's objections and questions but they didn't use a single second of that in the final cut because they wanted to make themselves look clever. They had an 'expert' saying that the largerst recorded fish in Lake Mitchigan (or onme of the great lakes) was only 7 feet long so Loch Ness could not have a bigger fish. Rubbish. ive seet an 8 foot catfish in a lake that was little more than a muddy puddle and a ten foot sturgeon was captured in White Lake.
They dod a good impression of us though and i got four hundred quid for a day's shoot.
 
They cut you to add to their programme then? You've got to expect that I suppose with TV.

I did find the impression funny as hell.

I've watched a few of them and find them hilarious ,I loved the 'End of the World' episode. But that said if you watch too many they get a bit samey.

Any results from the Tasmanian scat yet?
 
It's most likely a waterlogged tree stump, but still a very evocative picture. :)
 
It's a freak wave - an interaction of the boat's wake with the waves created by the wind over the loch.


Either that, or a hippotamus...
 
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