Carmilla K
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It is very sad, that you suffer with such illness. Very sad, indeed.It's not sad, it's an illness. Most people that are ill take medication for it
It is very sad, that you suffer with such illness. Very sad, indeed.It's not sad, it's an illness. Most people that are ill take medication for it
You poor souls, you poor poor souls. All on medication of one form or another and mostly depressed!
What can one say? This is so sad. So very sad.
I'm very pleased to hear that positive news.My depression is under control now.
But, surely, it is in the 'eye of the beholder'?I don't find it "sad" at all. People get sick, it happens. The important thing is getting better or finding ways to deal with the illness and trying to live your life with or despite the illness. Nothing terribly sad about that. Hard work and maybe not fair, but I couldn't describe it as sad.
They may well do but that says more about their preconceptions than it does about me and my life. If or when I get cancer I won't expect pity from the people helping me get through it. What I mean is that the illness doesn't define one. Yes, I lack energy and maybe I sometimes wish I wasn't here, but my life isn't a sad one. In many ways it's a privileged one; I'm just a melancholic and a rather misanthropic soul surrounded by lovely things!But, surely, it is in the 'eye of the beholder'?
You don't think of yourself as sad; yet others may view you as such?
As Carmilla K says, glad to hear the positive news Ramon.My depression is under control now.
Actually I'm stepping out of this thread as it's scaring the life out of me. Please people don't self prescribe.
Over sensitive to perceived snubs. Probably nuthin' tho. Let's forget about it.skinny, why are you upset?
Would the first book be "An Unquiet Mind"? It's by Dr Kay Jamison and is one of the foremost accessible books on the subject of Bi-polar disorder (manic-depression). Stephen Fry presented a superb documentary on bi-polar ten years back called "The Secret Life of the Manic Depressive" and just recently there was a follow up documentary on the BBC: "The Not So Secret Life of the Manic Depressive: Ten Years On". Although bi-polar is its own unique set of conditions, you can discern the pain that depression alone causes. It also gives insight into the problems that occur during manic episodes. It's not simply sad, sad, sad, happy, happy, happy, sad,sad, sad.
I was depressed a couple of years ago. Got really bad- two suicide attempts. Was prescribed citalopram which did keep the wolves from the door somewhat. However, I was abusing it hard. At that time I was a long-term alcoholic and would take any and every drug that came my way. So, the citalopram just went into the cocktail.
Eventually I began a recovery programme and quit everything. A little harder than it sounds in that once sentence but I won't bore you! I still get down but nowhere like those bad old days. I'm not depressed anymore.
My heart goes out to people suffering from depression- it's utterly horrid. Meds can help some, I think they probably did me, but not everyone. Any other medical help, for me, was not on the cards- the local NHS could offer me nothing except, and I kid ye not, a group lecture on stress (I wasn't stressed) and a panpipe cd. Yes, a panpipe cd.
I know it's easy to say but, genuinely, if anyone feels they would benefit from reaching out to a stranger that cares then please feel free to get in touch. I don't do advice or solutions...but I can do listening.
Peace to all.
Depression & booze don't mix well.
harder than it sounds to someone who hasn't been there, but I so understand what you say. Depression takes everything away from you, and then you have to dig deeper into the emptiness to find a way back out. That dig is impossible without guidance and support, and the NHS does not properly fund mental health conditions such as depression, so you are often left alone with the meds and a hope for the best. So, my God, well done on getting away from it. That speaks volumes about your strength and will; if you can beat depression, you can beat anything!I was depressed a couple of years ago. Got really bad- two suicide attempts. Was prescribed citalopram which did keep the wolves from the door somewhat. However, I was abusing it hard. At that time I was a long-term alcoholic and would take any and every drug that came my way. So, the citalopram just went into the cocktail.
Eventually I began a recovery programme and quit everything. A little harder than it sounds in that once sentence but I won't bore you! I still get down but nowhere like those bad old days. I'm not depressed anymore.
My heart goes out to people suffering from depression- it's utterly horrid. Meds can help some, I think they probably did me, but not everyone. Any other medical help, for me, was not on the cards- the local NHS could offer me nothing except, and I kid ye not, a group lecture on stress (I wasn't stressed) and a panpipe cd. Yes, a panpipe cd.
I know it's easy to say but, genuinely, if anyone feels they would benefit from reaching out to a stranger that cares then please feel free to get in touch. I don't do advice or solutions...but I can do listening.
Peace to all.
I consider myself a reasonably intelligent chap but the day someone pointed out to me that alcohol was a depressant was the day something clicked in me and one of a few things that made me need to change things. I get a bit frustrated if I'm honest, when I see non-alcoholic friends of mine that are taking antidepressants drinking. Then complaining of their depression.
.....but after quite a long time of, if not perfect joy, what was at least some calm and positive forward thinking, I have now hit the slopes of what I unfortunately recognise as a very serious depression. Obviously many people will still say that I should just pull my socks up and crack on. Pretty hard to do when you''re stuck inside, scared witless of every unexpected sound, and you are pinning all your hopes and wishes on an oblivious cat.
Forgive me for unloading everything here, but one of the reasons I am most scared about my emotional drop off is that the meds have literally stopped working. I take them, and my body and brain experiences the symptoms of withdrawal (brain zaps, numbness)....
One of the things I've learned in 25+ years of coping with it is that living healthily and not drinking (apart from sometimes literally just half a glass of vino maybe once a fortnight), not smoking (switched to vaping to get nicotine and very gradually climbing down the nicotine levels) and getting fresh air and sunlight, getting out & about to socialise, exercise, fresh veggies and non-processed foods does help. Being fairly strict about a sleep and rest routine also helps.
Yeah, don't drink when you're depressed and/or on anti depressants. Alcohol so can seem like the answer; it numbs, it frees. But only in the instance that you're taking it. It's bad. It's great if you can handle it, but like any drug it will destroy you if you can't. Heroin is a fantastic drug, but it will kill you if you can't manage it.I empathise with you.
My last bad bout was in 2005 and I made an attempt at suicide. Was 10 weeks in a psychiatric hospital. Then in a day hospital for a few weeks to ease me back to work. Had been at the day hospital before the suicide attempt but it didn't work then.
I was suffering from anxiety as well & that can build a feedback loop with the depression.
Forget what the heavy stuff I was on was. Eventually just Lithium & venlafaxine. Off the Lithium now.
I got to see a psychologist as well which helped.
Depression can be really bad. But again when you drink as I did you have a hangover the next day and all of your problems are still there. Depression & booze don't mix well.
I can listen as well if anyone wants to reach out.
I send all the love in the world to you. Angels do exist, in some form or another. You're a lucky what not to have found on!! And oh, you have effing tons of will power, you have maintained insight and proportion. THAT is to be celebrated!^^ Bless ya Rerenny. I appreciate your post. I had no guidance and support until I met someone very special, and angel I think. And I'm not a hippy-dippy new age type, but it was an angel. And I don't have any willpower really...I just saw that what would happen if I did not get a handle on things was that my 70 year old mother would bury me. And I couldn't do it to her.
You poor thing Makes me very sad to read. And being told to pull yer socks up and crack on is about as successful as if you were to say the very same thing to a cancer patient. I know how horrible it is my dear. Just remember that with all of us here you're not alone.
No apologies necessary at all! Get thee to a GP. If there's one thing they're pretty good at is meds.
Last paragraph made me smile. I don't think I ever lost my humour even at my lowest point. Nothing else I could do most of the time. Best of luck with that diagnosis, hope it brings some kind of positive outcome.
I hate being depressed and I'm in the early stages of a very real (and frankly terrifying) emotional swandive, so there's that!
Thank you! I love that there are people here who have/are going through the same issues. I'm on 300mg a day, but I'm off to see my GP next week to talk about the fact that my brain and limbs are becoming more and more numb. I also have an assessment in a week or so about what actually is my predicament - that is going to be interesting! It might explain why, after many months of group talking therapy I am still sat there going "Uh?"!!Hi Rerenny - also a venlafaxine-r here I occasionally have to go up to 300 or even 375mg daily, so please see the GP if possible.
Aww, massive hugs!! Thank you. I reckon we all at some point end up going through shit. The best thing is not to judge, just love and support each other!I'm sorry to hear that, Rerenny. I can't offer any advice but I do wish you all the best as you navigate these choppy waters. We're here for you. Hang in there!
I send all the love in the world to you. Angels do exist, in some form or another. You're a lucky what not to have found on!! And oh, you have effing tons of will power, you have maintained insight and proportion. THAT is to be celebrated!
going to be properly assessed by real life professionals