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Dumb Cops

Well I suppose they got their tick box for preventing the guy shooting himself.

Roy, Utah – A Roy, Utah man, Jose Calzada, 35, placed a call to a suicide prevention hotline at 4:00 a.m. Tuesday morning and threatened to kill himself, seven hour later he was shot and killed by police, according to law enforcement.

According to ABC 4, neighbors described Calzada as a quiet, friendly man, who was divorced and now lived in the home with his girlfriend and her children.

The first tragic mistake in this case was made when the Weber County Consolidated Dispatch Center sent officers to the residence rather than some type of crisis response team trained to deal with suicidal individuals.

From previous cases, such as that of Jason Turk, who was shot twice in the face after a suicide call to 9-1-1 by his wife, or that of Christian Alberto Sierra, who was suffering from depression and had attempted suicide when police showed up and shot him four times, killing him, most know all too well what happens when you send officers to “assist” people threatening suicide.

Subsequently, a SWAT team came to the residence and “negotiated” with Calzada for more than seven hours before taking his life.

Read more at http://thefreethoughtproject.com/call-s ... Fs1WQjU.99
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Free Thought Project
 
It's very unfortunate, but he did express a wish to die.
Wish fulfilled, apparently. :|
 
If you really want to die, you can trust the US police.
 
Pretty dumb to get the wrong guy, hold for 3 days then ditch in a different city:

A man is taking legal action against West Yorkshire Police, claiming he was wrongly identified and imprisoned in Scotland for three days.

Mohammed Naved Bashir, from Elland, near Halifax, was taken to court in Glasgow accused of fraud before the mistake was realised.

Mr Bashir said police stopped his car in Halifax just before Christmas and asked to see his insurance details.

They ran checks and said he was wanted in Glasgow for fraud.

He was arrested and taken to a cell in Halifax, then transferred to Scotland where he appeared in court.

After three days, Mr Bashir was released. "There was no apology, they just dumped me in Glasgow city centre with nowhere to go," he said.

"Luckily I had about £6 in my pocket.
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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-leeds-30793163
 
Wonder if he was dumb to do this, or dumb to think his old pals might cover it up for him.

Boo hoo.

A former Humberside Police detective has been found guilty of stalking and intimidation.

Colin Andrews, 59, was convicted of four charges but a jury at Manchester Crown Court cleared him of rape.

The former detective chief superintendent had continued to work for the force as a civilian following retirement.

The court had heard during the trial Andrews had sat outside his victim's house and phoned her 89 times.

He was found guilty of harassment, aggravated stalking, common assault and witness intimidation.
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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-humber-30957542
 
Completely OTT and counterproductive, both te police and the principal reacted in a dumb manner. This will alienate more young people. What was required here was a subtle hearts and minds intervention.

An eight-year-old schoolboy identified by French media only as “Ahmed” was questioned by police in Nice for at least half an hour on suspicion of “defending terrorism”. The boy’s father was summoned with him and was also interrogated.

The Committee Against Islamophobia in France (CCIF) said the treatment of Ahmed and his father “illustrates the collective hysteria into which France has plunged since early January.” Seventeen people were killed by three Islamist gunmen, who were in turn killed by police, on January 7th, 8th and 9th.

The director of the Flore primary school in Nice filed a complaint with police on January 21st. The boy had refused to participate in a minute’s silence in homage to the victims of the Charlie Hebdo massacre, and refused to hold hands with other students in a “circle of solidarity”. More than 200 similar incidents were reported in schools across France. ...

http://www.irishtimes.com/news/worl...-8-suspected-of-defending-terrorism-1.2084632
 
Hatton Garden raid: Police failed to respond to alarm
10 April 2015

Police were told an intruder alarm had gone off at the scene of the Hatton Garden safe deposit box raid but decided it did not require a response.
About 70 safety deposit boxes were opened at the Hatton Garden Safe Deposit Ltd in central London over the Easter Bank Holiday weekend.

The Met Police said they received a call on Friday 3 April at 00:21 BST.
Officers are now investigating why the call was given a grade that meant no police response was deemed necessary.
In a statement, the Met Police said: "It is too early to say if the handling of the call would have had an impact on the outcome of the incident."

The Met Police has said items were stolen from at least 56 safety deposit boxes and officers are in the process of contacting the holders.
In total, 72 boxes were opened. Five were vacant and 11 were due to be opened by the company following the non-payment of fees, police said.

BBC Home Affairs Correspondent Danny Shaw said: "It is quite possible and this is certainly one aspect that the inquiry will be looking at that there has been so many false alarms previously that the police had decided not to respond to anymore alerts.
"There is a police policy that if there are three false alarms in a 12-month period they won't respond anymore when intruder alarms go off and it is possible that may well have been what happened here." :rolleyes:

etc...

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-32253724

Handy tips for burglars:

When planning a raid, make sure to trigger 3 false alarms before carrying out the real raid... ;)
 
I once dated someone whose mother was in a relationship with a copper. Her mother and the copper invited us both to join them at the police station for a drink! At first I thought this was a wind-up but no the local station did have its own bar o_O It wasnt a very comfy experience as mr police man kept quizzing me but in the end he lightened up after his 3rd pint. When he`d sank that pint it was time to leave. They both got into his car and drove off - what about the booze he`d drunk? And worse still, he didnt put on his seat belt either.

A classic case of, its one rule for them and another for us sprung to mind.
 
Yes, I've been to a cop shop with a bar. I was in a pub quiz team, and the cops had a team too, so when they they were 'at home' we went there!
 
Another [white] cop shoots [black] man whilst running away story from US.

Here

The cop in question is a reserve officer, 73 years old & an insurance executive. According to the report "he thought he was firing his taser".

Bates was assigned to the violent crimes task force of the Tulsa County sheriff’s office. Reserve deputies “have [the] full powers and authority” of a deputy while on duty, Major Shannon Clark told the Tulsa World, saying their use in such cases was not unusual.

Oklahoma police have said they do not intend to investigate Harris’s death any further, unless requested to do so by the sheriff’s office.
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A 73 year old reserve assigned to violent crimes task force? Jeez.
 
Wonder if he shot his telly mistaking the gun for a remote
 
rynner2 said:
Yes, I've been to a cop shop with a bar. I was in a pub quiz team, and the cops had a team too, so when they they were 'at home' we went there!
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I now have mental images of you looking like Eric Bristow, Ryn.
 
Man Threatens Suicide, Police Kill Him

Another example of US police's keenness for shooting first without looking for other options. This time Florida.

Long story short:
Recovering alcoholic loses job, takes to his bed with a bottle of vodka & a knife, threatens to harm himself.
Girlfriend calls police on non-emergency no. thinking to get him to a hospital for help.
Two police arrive heavily armed.
Moments later they shoot him dead, probably while he's still in bed.

Story here.
 
The police now go for the kill - no shooting to disable or anything like that.
 
Crash victims may have lain injured for three days

A dead man and a seriously injured woman were found in a crashed car three days after the accident was reported to police, it has emerged.
Police Scotland found the pair in a blue Renault Clio just off the M9 near Stirling on Wednesday.
The force admitted the crash had been reported to them on Sunday morning but had not been followed up.

It is believed the two people in the car may have been John Yuill and Lamara Bell.
Mr Yuill, 28, and Ms Bell, 25, had been reported missing to police after last being seen in the company of friends in the Loch Earn area of Stirlingshire in a blue Clio in the early hours of Sunday.
It is understood the couple are from the Falkirk area. A friend of Mr Yuill's described him on Facebook as a "great guy and a brilliant dad".
Police Scotland had launched an appeal for information about the couple on Monday afternoon.
At the time, the force said their disappearance was "completely out of character". It later released a photograph of the car they had been travelling in.
An investigation is being carried out into the incident by the Police Investigations and Review Commissioner.

Assistant Chief Constable Kate Thomson of Police Scotland said officers had been called to the M9 southbound near junction 9 at about 09:50 on Wednesday following a report of a one-car crash involving a Renault Clio that had left the road.
The male driver of the car was pronounced dead at the scene, while the female passenger was taken to the Queen Elizabeth University Hospital in Glasgow, where she is in a critical condition.
She added: "We believe that this is connected to the ongoing missing persons search for John Yuill and Lamara Bell.
"As part of our investigation into this incident, it has come to light that a call was made to police late on Sunday morning regarding a car which was reported as being off the road.
"For reasons currently being investigated, that report was not followed up at the time. Following a call this morning, officers attended the scene.
"Officers have notified the families of this update. Our thoughts are with both families at this difficult time. A full investigation is currently under way to establish the full circumstances of the incident."

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-tayside-central-33438667
 
rynner2 said:
Crash victims may have lain injured for three days

A dead man and a seriously injured woman were found in a crashed car three days after the accident was reported to police, it has emerged.
Police Scotland found the pair in a blue Renault Clio just off the M9 near Stirling on Wednesday.
The force admitted the crash had been reported to them on Sunday morning but had not been followed up.

It is believed the two people in the car may have been John Yuill and Lamara Bell.
Mr Yuill, 28, and Ms Bell, 25, had been reported missing to police after last being seen in the company of friends in the Loch Earn area of Stirlingshire in a blue Clio in the early hours of Sunday.
It is understood the couple are from the Falkirk area. A friend of Mr Yuill's described him on Facebook as a "great guy and a brilliant dad".
Police Scotland had launched an appeal for information about the couple on Monday afternoon.
At the time, the force said their disappearance was "completely out of character". It later released a photograph of the car they had been travelling in.
An investigation is being carried out into the incident by the Police Investigations and Review Commissioner.

Assistant Chief Constable Kate Thomson of Police Scotland said officers had been called to the M9 southbound near junction 9 at about 09:50 on Wednesday following a report of a one-car crash involving a Renault Clio that had left the road.
The male driver of the car was pronounced dead at the scene, while the female passenger was taken to the Queen Elizabeth University Hospital in Glasgow, where she is in a critical condition.
She added: "We believe that this is connected to the ongoing missing persons search for John Yuill and Lamara Bell.
"As part of our investigation into this incident, it has come to light that a call was made to police late on Sunday morning regarding a car which was reported as being off the road.
"For reasons currently being investigated, that report was not followed up at the time. Following a call this morning, officers attended the scene.
"Officers have notified the families of this update. Our thoughts are with both families at this difficult time. A full investigation is currently under way to establish the full circumstances of the incident."

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-tayside-central-33438667
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Horrifying. :(
 
rynner2 said:
Crash victims may have lain injured for three days

A dead man and a seriously injured woman were found in a crashed car three days after the accident was reported to police, it has emerged.
Police Scotland found the pair in a blue Renault Clio just off the M9 near Stirling on Wednesday.
The force admitted the crash had been reported to them on Sunday morning but had not been followed up.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-tayside-central-33438667
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Woman found in car three days after M9 crash dies

A woman, who lay in a crashed car off the M9 near Stirling for three days before police found her, has died.
Lamara Bell, 25, was critically injured in the crash on Sunday, but she and her partner John Yuill, 28, were only discovered by officers on Wednesday.
Mr Yuill had already died. Ms Bell had been in a medically-induced coma.
It later emerged that police had received a call about the crash on Sunday, but the information had not been entered into police systems.

Ms Bell, who was a mother, was being treated at the Queen Elizabeth University Hospital in Glasgow having suffered kidney damage from dehydration from lying in the wreckage for so long. She died at about 06:50 on Sunday.
Ms Bell's brother Martin Bell confirmed her death on Facebook.
"My sister just passed away," he said.
A statement on behalf of the Bell family said: "Sadly, our daughter has passed away. We now request that the media respect our privacy to grieve for Lamara at this very difficult time."

A statement on behalf of the Yuill family said: "The family of John Yuill would like to say that their prayers and thoughts are with Lamara and her family.
"We are devastated by the sad news this morning.
"The families have messaged each other this morning and our thoughts are with John and Lamara's children at this very sad time."

The Police Investigations and Review Commissioner (Pirc) is reviewing the handling of the incident, focusing on the call on Sunday.
Police Scotland's chief constable Sir Stephen House last week apologised to the families of the couple for the "individual failure in our service".

On Saturday, Mr Bell put a post on Facebook which said: "I just want everyone to know Iv put my posts public .. I want the police to see this also ..I want them to see how a huge error by a senior officer has absolutely devastated us."
He said the family felt like they had had their "hearts ripped out."

The couple, believed to be from the Falkirk area, had been reported missing to police after last being seen in the company of friends in the Loch Earn area of Stirlingshire in a blue Clio in the early hours of Sunday.
Ms Bell's family had said they were angry and disgusted by the way Police Scotland had handled the case.

The chief constable said a member of the public had called the 101 non-emergency number at about 11:30 on Sunday after seeing the car down the embankment near the Bannockburn slip road.
The call had been taken by an "experienced officer", who has since remained on duty. However, "for reasons yet to be established" this was never entered into systems or sent out to operational teams in the area.
"That we failed both families involved is without doubt," the chief constable said.

Scottish Lib Dem leader Willie Rennie said: "Her [Lamara's] father's bedside singing and her family's publicly expressed anguish were clear manifestations of the love they felt for Lamara.
"We all feel terribly sad that her life has ended and in this awful way. Whilst her family and friends grieve for Lamara it is now our duty to find the answers that everyone is seeking."

Last week Mr Rennie called for a wider inquiry into the operation of Scotland's single police force in light of the incident.
He said the case for such a probe was becoming "unanswerable" and questioned Sir Stephen's assertion that the incident centred around an "individual failure" in the service.
The MSP said workload pressure on the police service has been "immense" since the reorganisation of the service into a single force over two years ago - a move which included the centralisation of police control rooms.

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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-33497318
 
Can't help thinking that I'd have rung for an ambulance rather than the police. Have done, in fact, and stayed around to make sure they turned up.
 
Yes, I think that would be the most logical thing to do.
 
The caller didn't ring 999, and may not have known there were people in the car. (Perhaps it had been dumped by joy-riders?) Let's hope the truth comes out now.

Pictures on lunchtime TV suggest the car had been found down a steep wooded bank, and so was not very accessible to most passers-by
 
rynner2 said:
Pictures on lunchtime TV suggest the car had been found down a steep wooded bank, and so was not very accessible to most passers-by
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M9 fatal crash report man 'feels guilt'
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The man who made the initial call to report a car that had crashed off the M9 near Stirling has told BBC News he feels guilty for not following it up.
The local man said he called the non-emergency 101 number at 11:30 on Sunday 5 July.
He was told officers would investigate.

John Yuill was found dead inside the blue Renault Clio three days later. His girlfriend, Lamara Bell, was critically injured and died in hospital at the weekend.
Ms Bell had suffered broken bones and kidney damage through dehydration after being trapped beside the body of Mr Yuill for three days.

It has since emerged that police only sent a crew to investigate the crash when a second call was made by someone else three days later.
Scottish First Minister Nicola Sturgeon and the country's justice secretary, Michael Matheson, have both given their backing to the chief constable of Police Scotland, Sir Stephen House, who has been under growing pressure following the force's handling of the fatal crash.
Sir Stephen has admitted that the initial information received about the crash was not entered into police systems.
However, he insisted he would not be resigning, and said the "massive changes" brought by the creation of the single Police Scotland force were not to blame for the "horrible tragedy".

Ms Sturgeon also said there was nothing to suggest at this stage that there was a "wider systemic issue".

The initial caller, who wishes to remain anonymous, said the officer dealing with him on the Sunday sounded like he knew what he was doing and was not dismissive.
Details were taken of the location, described by the caller as "on the fork, between the M9 and M80."
The car, he said, was not visible from the motorway.
He said there was "nothing to suggest they would not take it seriously" and that he "assumed the police would check it out".

He became concerned on the Monday and Tuesday when the car was still there with no police tape covering it, but had thought it "must be awaiting recovery."
He said he was "aware of what was being said about whether he should have done more" but believed police were handling it.
Officers from Police Scotland have visited the man and questioned him for several hours, and he has also been interviewed by Pirc, the Police Investigations and Review Commissioner.

A review of police call handling in Scotland has been announced by the Scottish government.
There had been pressure from opposition politicians for a wider inquiry into the operation of Scotland's single police force in light of the incident.
Scottish Labour justice spokeswoman Elaine Murray called for the chief constable to consider his position, and Scottish Liberal Democrat leader Willie Rennie said there was a "strong case for a wider independent review".

The urgent review by Her Majesty's Inspectorate of Constabulary in Scotland (HMICS) will focus broadly on all call handling procedures and will be in addition to the ongoing independent inquiry specifically into the M9 incident by Pirc.

Ms Bell had been in a medically-induced coma at the Queen Elizabeth University Hospital in Glasgow. She died at about 06:50 on Sunday.
Writing on Facebook, Ms Bell's brother Martin said he was "blown away" by the efforts made by the Falkirk community to support the families, with fundraising events being set up and money raised to help pay for funeral arrangements.
He said: "It's times like this when you realise how good a community we live in.
"It just feels like a bad dream right now, but all your kind words and efforts are helping so much, there are so many kind and decent people out there."

The Yuill family added: "The family of John Yuill would like to say that their prayers and thoughts are with Lamara and her family. We are devastated by the sad news.
"The families have messaged each and our thoughts are with John and Lamara's children at this very sad time."

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-tayside-central-33503587
 
In all fairness to the guy, the police are always banging on about using the non emergency number, and he does seem to have got a response to suggest that it was in hand. :(
 
Agreed.

There's absolutely no excuse for the call handler not following-up the call. It doesn't matter whether it came from 999, 101, a tweet whatever - it should have been investigated.
 
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Crashed biker left in ditch after police county border confusion
By Sally Chidzoy and David Keller BBC News
23 September 2015

Three police forces have apologised to a crash victim left in a ditch due to confusion as to which force should attend the call.
The biker crashed near Tilbrook, Cambridgeshire, which borders Bedfordshire and Northamptonshire, on Sunday.
Despite a 999 call going in shortly after 16:00 BST, emergency services did not arrive until 18:40.

The forces told the BBC they were investigating what went wrong.
The motorcyclist, who has not been named, crashed on the B645 close to the border of the three counties.

Bedfordshire Police said the Northamptonshire force told its staff about the crash at 16:25, but it replied the accident was not in its patch.
An hour and 15 minutes later, Bedfordshire Police said it was informed that no emergency services had attended so immediately dispatched a police car.

It said due to the distance of travel, and difficulties in locating the casualty, the car did not arrive until 18:40.
The victim was then taken in the car to Bedford Hospital with an injured arm as no ambulance had attended.

Bedfordshire Police said it believed East Midlands Ambulance Service was contacted about the crash. The ambulance service told the BBC it could not find the incident on its logs.
Cambridgeshire Police said it remained unclear as to which county the crash occurred in, adding it was "clear that a better response should have been given".
Ch Insp Nick Lyall of Bedfordshire Police said the forces "would like to apologise to the man involved", adding they were investigating what went wrong.

Northamptonshire's Police and Crime Commissioner Adam Simmonds told the BBC the delay was a "scandal", adding that "someone should answer for that".

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-cambridgeshire-34343385
 
A girl was offered a loaded gun before it was fired accidentally causing her an injury, her mother has said.

The seven-year-old suffered a minor lip injury when a bullet casing from the assault rifle hit her after it was shot into the ground at Nottinghamshire Police headquarters last year.

The officer, who has not been named, has been taken off firearms duties following an incompetency hearing.

The officer said he did not remember the weapon being offered to the girl.

http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-nottinghamshire-34748783
 
Another in the series, white cop shoots black youth dead, from Chicago.

OK, he does appear to have a large knife but the dashcam footage is pretty damning. One policeman shoots him then empties his gun into the youth while he's on the ground. The police waited a whole year to release the footage, and only when a judge ruled they had to. He's now been charged him with murder & a $5 million payment by the council was approved back in April for the family.
 
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