Neo-Nazi Terrorism

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A former RAF cadet daubed a Windrush mural with Nazi symbols and fantasised about making a gun and killing a schoolboy, a court has heard.

The 17-year-old youth from South Wales admitted a string of terror offences and criminal damage and appeared at the Old Bailey on Friday.

The court heard how the youth was referred to the Prevent de-radicalisation programme last spring by the Royal Air Force Air Cadets.

Last September, he was expelled from the group after he sent images to other cadets bare chested with a Swastika painted on his chest and was banned from Instagram for posting racist and Nazi images.

The youth, then aged 16, went on to paint graffiti on a Windrush mural in Port Talbot, which celebrates the town’s Caribbean community, on two occasions in October and November.

On October 31st last year he was involved in setting off a smoke bomb at The Queer Emporium in Cardiff, which damaged the floor. The emporium was targeted because it is a centre for the local LGBT+ community, the court was told.

Prosecutor Lucy Jones outlined how the full extent of the defendant’s right-wing ideology was laid bare after he was arrested on November 8 last year.

In a search of his bedroom, police found a stash of knives, an air rifle and antisemitic literature.

A copy of Adolf Hitler’s Mein Kampf had been bought for him by his mother and contained the defendant’s handwritten notes, Ms Jones said.

The defendant’s diary also outlined a desire for “race war”, the court was told.

Among the entries was a hate-filled rant about an Asian schoolmate who be believed “grassed” on him. He wrote: “I would be doing the world a favour if I just killed him.”

A list of life goals included “burn a building down, maybe bomb it”, “kill someone”, “join a Nazi militia”, “get a gun or make one” and “get buff as hell”.

The prosecutor said the defendant was not just a “keyboard warrior”, saying: “He’s carrying out his ideals not just in relation to the criminal damage but advocating in views in his social media. He’s not anonymous, he is willing to show his face and share and support his views.”

In June, the youth pleaded guilty to eight charges – two of possessing a terrorist document, three of distributing a terrorist document and three charges of criminal damage.

One of the terrorist documents the youth shared with another teenager gave details on bombmaking, derailing trains, attacking power lines and kidnapping police officers, as well as glorifying notorious mass murderers.

He possessed and disseminated another manual with “step-by-step” instructions on gun-making.

https://www.breakingnews.ie/world/f...windrush-mural-with-nazi-symbols-1522061.html
 
Yet another case.

An ex-soldier found with terrorism documents, Nazi memorabilia and indecent images of children has been jailed for four years.

Serj Forster, 26, was arrested at home in Norwich in May last year, and police seized a number of items including instructions on bomb making.

Forster was found guilty of collecting terrorist publications including the Advanced Anarchist Arsenal and US Army Improvised Munitions Handbook. Hundreds of indecent images were found.

Forster pleaded guilty to a third charge of possessing a handbook with instructions on making a sheet-metal gun at home, but was cleared of a fourth charge.

His trial, which ended in February, heard that Forster, of Cardiff Road, was "fascinated" by the extreme right. ...

The court heard that, as a schoolboy, Forster was referred to Prevent over his "neo-Nazi" views, and the judge noted he had "failed to respond" in a meaningful way to the government-funded scheme, which aims to steer people away from extremist ideologies. ...

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-norfolk-66927619
 
ramonmercado said:
…terrorist publications including the Advanced Anarchist Arsenal and US Army Improvised Munitions Handbook.
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Somebody had better tell Amazon, as the first is listed as simply “Not currently available/we don’t know when it’ll be back in stock”, while the second is freely available from numerous retailers.

He sounds like a real big-time pro terrorist.

maximus otter
 
maximus otter said:
Somebody had better tell Amazon, as the first is listed as simply “Not currently available/we don’t know when it’ll be back in stock”, while the second is freely available from numerous retailers.

He sounds like a real big-time pro terrorist.

maximus otter
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He also had indecent images of children. Would you prefer nothing be done about these types - just let them carry on?
 
maximus otter said:
Somebody had better tell Amazon, as the first is listed as simply “Not currently available/we don’t know when it’ll be back in stock”, while the second is freely available from numerous retailers.

He sounds like a real big-time pro terrorist.

maximus otter
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Muslim teenagers have gotten lengthy jail sentences for possessing such documents.
 
What is a ‘big time pro' terrorist anyway? - I wonder if he can name an example for us.
 
My opinion, the conditions that exist today are the same before WW II.

Inflation, unemployment, and extreme groups is what set off WW II.

People forget how bad WW II was, or the young people today are clueless to the horrors of war.
 
charliebrown said:
My opinion, the conditions that exist today are the same before WW II.

Inflation, unemployment, and extreme groups is what set off WW II.

People forget how bad WW II was, or the young people today are clueless to the horrors of war.
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Conditions for who?
UK unemployment rate is way lower now than it was in the late 70s and early 80s.
Also the unprecedented video coverage of Putin's war against Ukraine gives us a pretty good idea of the horrors of war.
 
Mythopoeika said:
Osama Bin Laden?
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The point is that it wasn’t Bin Laden who carried out Manchester Arena or London 7/7 bombings, or put a pipe bomb in a gay pub some years ago. None of these guys were ‘big time pro’. You don’t have to be big time pro to carry out terroristic acts.
 
I don’t know how you could talk about this subject without being political.

I do know that Nashville, which is north of me, just recently had problems with a person or persons leaving strong hate Jew literature at people’s homes.

This is unusual since Nashville has been fairly quiet.
 
One or two posters missing the point here, two english MP's have been murdered in the last few years by people who have been exposed to extremist literature.
 
It doesn't matter to me what fanatical interpretation of political or religious dogma pushes people into terrorism.

As far as I'm concerned they are all as bad as each other, and it is unfortunate to say the least that they have not, in my lifetime, all been treated in a consistent way. Of course not all terrorist incidents result in the same charges in law, that's not what I mean

I don't think discussion of the rationale of any particular 'cause' helps.
 
These guys were (allegedly) well prepared to launch an attack before they were arrested.

Three men have been charged with planning a neo-Nazi attack on an Islamic education centre with a gun made using a 3D printer.

Brogan Stewart and Marco Pitzettu, both 24, and Christopher Ringrose, 33, appeared in court via video link. No pleas were indicated and they were remanded in custody ahead of a hearing at the Old Bailey on 15 March. The men were arrested on 20 February and are jointly charged with preparing an act of terrorism.

Their homes were searched during the "pre-planned, intelligence-led" operation, Counter Terrorism Policing North East added. It is alleged that Mr Stewart, from Leeds, Mr Pitzettu, from Derby, and Mr Ringrose, from Cannock, Staffordshire, prepared for an attack by acquiring instructions on making a 3D-printed firearm. It is alleged they manufactured an FGC-9 semi-automatic firearm and identified potential targets for attack.

Prosecutor Mark Luckett told Westminster Magistrates' Court that, earlier this month, the defendants discussed a plan to attack an Islamic Education Centre in Leeds as well as human targets they described as "victims".

The defendants were allegedly active in a group on the Telegram chat application that was used to provide advice on military training and weaponry with the aim of preparing terrorist acts.

The court heard that, during searches of the defendants' homes last week, detectives recovered a 3D printer, a 3D-printed FGC-9 semi-automatic firearm, various decommissioned firearms, knives, and Nazi memorabilia.

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-68411163
 
A sad case, Rhianan was groomed by an American neo-Nazi. The actions of the police and CPS in this case do not reflect well on them.

MI5 was monitoring a teenager who took her own life after being groomed by a far-right American extremist and arrested on suspicion of terrorism offences, an inquest has heard.

At 15, Rhianan Rudd was the youngest person charged with terror offences in the UK, but the prosecution was later discontinued. She was 16 when she took her own life on 19 May 2022.A pre-inquest review hearing was told MI5 gave intelligence to police - but that it had no further involvement in Rhianan's arrest and charge.

Rhianan, who was born in Essex but moved to Derbyshire in 2012, was a looked after child at the time she died. She was detained in October 2020 for downloading a bomb-making manual and charged with various offences the following April. The teenager, who had autism, was due to stand trial in March 2022, but charges were dropped in December 2021 after evidence emerged she had been groomed by American extremist Christopher Cook.

Family handout Rhianan Rudd
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Rhianan was studying for her GCSEs at the time of her death

A BBC investigation, published last year, found evidence showing grooming and sexual exploitation of Rhianan was handed to MI5 months before she was charged.

At Chesterfield Coroner's Court on Friday, Edward Pleeth - counsel for the inquest - said in July, solicitors wrote to interested persons, which includes the Home Office, the chief constable of Derbyshire Police and the Crown Prosecution Service, to update them on the case.

"MI5 confirmed that they provided the police with intelligence in the course of the police investigation of Rhianan Rudd," he said. "MI5 did not take the decision to arrest or charge, or the subsequent decision to discontinue the prosecution."

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cp8n86n40wwo
 
ramonmercado said:
A sad case, Rhianan was groomed by an American neo-Nazi. The actions of the police and CPS in this case do not reflect well on them.

MI5 was monitoring a teenager who took her own life after being groomed by a far-right American extremist and arrested on suspicion of terrorism offences, an inquest has heard.

At 15, Rhianan Rudd was the youngest person charged with terror offences in the UK, but the prosecution was later discontinued. She was 16 when she took her own life on 19 May 2022.A pre-inquest review hearing was told MI5 gave intelligence to police - but that it had no further involvement in Rhianan's arrest and charge.

Rhianan, who was born in Essex but moved to Derbyshire in 2012, was a looked after child at the time she died. She was detained in October 2020 for downloading a bomb-making manual and charged with various offences the following April. The teenager, who had autism, was due to stand trial in March 2022, but charges were dropped in December 2021 after evidence emerged she had been groomed by American extremist Christopher Cook.

Family handout Rhianan Rudd
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Rhianan was studying for her GCSEs at the time of her death

A BBC investigation, published last year, found evidence showing grooming and sexual exploitation of Rhianan was handed to MI5 months before she was charged.

At Chesterfield Coroner's Court on Friday, Edward Pleeth - counsel for the inquest - said in July, solicitors wrote to interested persons, which includes the Home Office, the chief constable of Derbyshire Police and the Crown Prosecution Service, to update them on the case.

"MI5 confirmed that they provided the police with intelligence in the course of the police investigation of Rhianan Rudd," he said. "MI5 did not take the decision to arrest or charge, or the subsequent decision to discontinue the prosecution."

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cp8n86n40wwo
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A classic example of when multiple agencies get (un)involved and do nothing. That child could have been saved by the right intervention.
 
A tad more bizarre than your usual Neo-Nazi terrorism cases.

A neo-Nazi satanist is facing jail for encouraging girls to kill themselves and self-harm.

Cameron Finnigan, 19, joined a satanic extremist group known as 764 in late 2023 and told one girl to kill herself “for me” on video so he could share it in the group’s online chat, the Old Bailey heard.

He was arrested in March 2024 and pleaded guilty to five charges: encouraging suicide online, possessing a document for terrorist purposes, having indecent images of children and two counts of criminal damage. He appeared before Mr Justice Jay at the Old Bailey on Thursday for sentencing.

Prosecutor Bill Emlyn Jones KC said Finnigan, who is autistic and lived with his adoptive mother, father and biological sister in Horsham, West Sussex, became involved with 764 in October or November 2023. The group has links to the Order of Nine Angles, a Nazi occultist group linked to a string of prosecutions.. Both groups encourage increasing violence building up to potential mass casualty events, the court heard.

Finnigan communicated with other 764 members on the Telegram, Discord and Snapchat apps. One of his username was ACID and he used a Pin code of 1969, the date the Satanic Bible was first published.

He chatted to an individual believed to be a young girl who told him she was considering suicide. Finnigan encouraged her to kill herself and wanted her to stream it online so he could claim it for 764, the court was told.

The judge also heard that the 764 Telegram chat had referred to “Terror Week” and “Terror Season”, a period between March 11 and 19 2024 in which members were encouraged to commit crimes.

Finnigan told the group he would kill a homeless person he had identified living in a tent near his home. Police never found evidence of an attempt to kill the victim, but a picture of the tent was found in the chat alongside a message from the defendant that said “I’m waiting”.

https://www.breakingnews.ie/world/n...uraging-girls-to-kill-themselves-1718600.html
 
ramonmercado said:
A tad more bizarre than your usual Neo-Nazi terrorism cases.

A neo-Nazi satanist is facing jail for encouraging girls to kill themselves and self-harm...
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And a day later this guy gets righteously banged up:

White supremacist jailed for asylum seeker attack

A white supremacist who stabbed an asylum seeker at a hotel in what a judge said was "undoubtedly a terrorist attack" has been jailed for life.

Callum Parslow, 32, stabbed Nahom Hagos in the chest and hand at the Pear Tree Inn at Smite near Worcester.

At Woolwich Crown Court, Parslow was given a minimum term of 22 years and eight months for attempted murder.

Sentencing Parslow, Mr Justice Dove said his attack on Mr Hagos was motivated by his adoption of a "far right neo-Nazi mindset, which fuelled your warped, violent and racist views."

During his trial Parslow, of Bromyard Terrace, Worcester, told the jury he travelled to the hotel to stab "one of the Channel migrants" because he was "angry and frustrated".

He was convicted of attempted murder following a three-week trial at Leicester Crown Court last year...etc
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Full report here.

Although the crime the latter was specifically convicted off has a different focus, looking a bit further into his record you do have to wonder if what drives a lot of these fuckers - or at last, what is the foundation stone of the other hatreds they nurture - is actually the hatred of women.
 
Another bizarre and disturbing case.

MI5 lied to three courts while defending its handling of a misogynistic neo-Nazi state agent who attacked his girlfriend with a machete, the BBC can reveal.

Arguing for secrecy, the Security Service told judges it had stuck to its policy of not confirming or denying informants' identities. In fact, MI5 had disclosed the man's status in phone calls to me, as it tried to persuade me not to investigate the man - known publicly only as agent X.

The service aggressively maintained its position until I produced evidence proving it was untrue, including a recording of one of the calls.

The BBC can reveal:
  • MI5 first lied in a court case where the government attempted to block the BBC from reporting on agent X's wrongdoing - and succeeded in banning us from naming the foreign national
  • The Security Service then repeated the lie to a specialist court, where the woman attacked with a machete - known by the alias Beth - is seeking answers about MI5's handling of its agent
  • It repeated the lie again to a judicial review, where Beth was challenging the specialist court's decision
  • A senior officer said he was legally authorised to tell me X was an agent - so MI5 had not stuck to its policy of not confirming or denying agents' identities
In an unprecedented admission, MI5 has now issued an "unreserved apology" to the BBC and all three courts, describing what happened as a "serious error" and saying "MI5 takes full responsibility". ...

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cew5rwpw579o
 
ramonmercado said:
Another bizarre and disturbing case.

MI5 lied to three courts while defending its handling of a misogynistic neo-Nazi state agent who attacked his girlfriend with a machete, the BBC can reveal.

Arguing for secrecy, the Security Service told judges it had stuck to its policy of not confirming or denying informants' identities. In fact, MI5 had disclosed the man's status in phone calls to me, as it tried to persuade me not to investigate the man - known publicly only as agent X.

The service aggressively maintained its position until I produced evidence proving it was untrue, including a recording of one of the calls.

The BBC can reveal:
  • MI5 first lied in a court case where the government attempted to block the BBC from reporting on agent X's wrongdoing - and succeeded in banning us from naming the foreign national
  • The Security Service then repeated the lie to a specialist court, where the woman attacked with a machete - known by the alias Beth - is seeking answers about MI5's handling of its agent
  • It repeated the lie again to a judicial review, where Beth was challenging the specialist court's decision
  • A senior officer said he was legally authorised to tell me X was an agent - so MI5 had not stuck to its policy of not confirming or denying agents' identities
In an unprecedented admission, MI5 has now issued an "unreserved apology" to the BBC and all three courts, describing what happened as a "serious error" and saying "MI5 takes full responsibility". ...

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cew5rwpw579o
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It's like summat out of Slow Horses.
 
ramonmercado said:
Another bizarre and disturbing case.

MI5 lied to three courts while defending its handling of a misogynistic neo-Nazi state agent who attacked his girlfriend with a machete, the BBC can reveal.

Arguing for secrecy, the Security Service told judges it had stuck to its policy of not confirming or denying informants' identities. In fact, MI5 had disclosed the man's status in phone calls to me, as it tried to persuade me not to investigate the man - known publicly only as agent X.

The service aggressively maintained its position until I produced evidence proving it was untrue, including a recording of one of the calls.

The BBC can reveal:
  • MI5 first lied in a court case where the government attempted to block the BBC from reporting on agent X's wrongdoing - and succeeded in banning us from naming the foreign national
  • The Security Service then repeated the lie to a specialist court, where the woman attacked with a machete - known by the alias Beth - is seeking answers about MI5's handling of its agent
  • It repeated the lie again to a judicial review, where Beth was challenging the specialist court's decision
  • A senior officer said he was legally authorised to tell me X was an agent - so MI5 had not stuck to its policy of not confirming or denying agents' identities
In an unprecedented admission, MI5 has now issued an "unreserved apology" to the BBC and all three courts, describing what happened as a "serious error" and saying "MI5 takes full responsibility". ...

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cew5rwpw579o
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This is an important issue with wide implications. Can MI5 decide that a violent criminal is above the law? Seems it can.

Here's a long explanatory piece by BBC Daniel De Simone, BBC investigations correspondent, about how he blew MI5's cover.

How I exposed MI5's lie about its violent abusive agent

One of many highlights is is a paragraph about easy De Simone found it to identify the agent 'X' and alsp how out-of-control X became:

The MI5 officer seemed to be most fascinated by how we had worked out X's true identity. I found this surprising, given I was talking to MI5, and explained it was basic journalism. During the call I also told the officer that X had been on a dating site under an alias used for his MI5 work.
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This is true journalism.:hoff:
 
The victim demands an apology.

The woman at the centre of a case in which MI5 has admitted giving false evidence to three courts says she wants the service to give her a public apology.

Beth was attacked with a machete by her former partner, a neo-Nazi misogynist who used his MI5 role to coercively control her.

We revealed on Wednesday that MI5 gave false evidence to three courts over its handling of the man - a paid informant known only as agent X.

MI5 has now issued an "unreserved apology" describing what happened as a "serious error" - adding it took full responsibility.

But speaking for the first time since then, Beth - not her real name - asks: "Where's my apology?"

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c7vd4910zeeo
 
ramonmercado said:
The victim demands an apology.

The woman at the centre of a case in which MI5 has admitted giving false evidence to three courts says she wants the service to give her a public apology.

Beth was attacked with a machete by her former partner, a neo-Nazi misogynist who used his MI5 role to coercively control her.

We revealed on Wednesday that MI5 gave false evidence to three courts over its handling of the man - a paid informant known only as agent X.

MI5 has now issued an "unreserved apology" describing what happened as a "serious error" - adding it took full responsibility.

But speaking for the first time since then, Beth - not her real name - asks: "Where's my apology?"

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c7vd4910zeeo
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There was a piece in today's Woman's Hour about it featuring Daniel De Simone himself.

BBC R4 Woman's Hour 14/2/2023

The BBC have revealed MI5 gave false evidence to three courts over the handling of a paid informant, known as Agent X a neo-Nazi misogynist. He attacked his former partner, Beth, with a machete and used his role at the security service to coercively control her. She has been speaking out about what happened. Anita is joined by Daniel de Simone BBC investigation correspondent and Kate Ellis CWJ lawyer representing 'Beth'.
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ramonmercado said:
A sad case, Rhianan was groomed by an American neo-Nazi. The actions of the police and CPS in this case do not reflect well on them.

MI5 was monitoring a teenager who took her own life after being groomed by a far-right American extremist and arrested on suspicion of terrorism offences, an inquest has heard.

At 15, Rhianan Rudd was the youngest person charged with terror offences in the UK, but the prosecution was later discontinued. She was 16 when she took her own life on 19 May 2022.A pre-inquest review hearing was told MI5 gave intelligence to police - but that it had no further involvement in Rhianan's arrest and charge.

Rhianan, who was born in Essex but moved to Derbyshire in 2012, was a looked after child at the time she died. She was detained in October 2020 for downloading a bomb-making manual and charged with various offences the following April. The teenager, who had autism, was due to stand trial in March 2022, but charges were dropped in December 2021 after evidence emerged she had been groomed by American extremist Christopher Cook.

Family handout Rhianan Rudd
Family handout
Rhianan was studying for her GCSEs at the time of her death

A BBC investigation, published last year, found evidence showing grooming and sexual exploitation of Rhianan was handed to MI5 months before she was charged.

At Chesterfield Coroner's Court on Friday, Edward Pleeth - counsel for the inquest - said in July, solicitors wrote to interested persons, which includes the Home Office, the chief constable of Derbyshire Police and the Crown Prosecution Service, to update them on the case.

"MI5 confirmed that they provided the police with intelligence in the course of the police investigation of Rhianan Rudd," he said. "MI5 did not take the decision to arrest or charge, or the subsequent decision to discontinue the prosecution."

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cp8n86n40wwo
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Prevent, MI5, the police and the CPS really messed up in this case.

A schoolgirl who was groomed online by a far-right extremist in the US became "fixated" on Adolf Hitler and wanted to "blow up a synagogue" before she took her own life, an inquest has heard.

Rhianan Rudd, 16, downloaded bomb manuals, guides on guerrilla warfare and media glorifying white supremacy and Nazism, Chesterfield Coroner's Court was told.

Her mother referred her to the deradicalisation programme Prevent - but she was later arrested by counter-terrorism officers and then placed under investigation by MI5.

The court heard several months after the charges were dropped, Rhianan was found dead at a children's home in Nottinghamshire on 19 May 2022.

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c4g77e57q17o
 
I suspect more complex than politics.

A child from a normal, happy, home is not going to end up institutionalised regardless of politics.
 
Im sure it does happen, but (in this country at least) it would be exceptional...and something that Questions Should Be Asked over.

(Teenage suicide is maybe another thing that Questions Should Be Asked over...)

I hope.

But maybe we are going the way of another nation that seems to institutionalise its young folk a lot...

(Dangerously close to politics?)
 
An Order of Nine Angles fan.

A high school student from Wisconsin killed his parents as part of a larger plot to assassinate US President Donald Trump, the FBI has said.

Nikita Casap, 17, has been charged with the killing of his mother, Tatiana Casap, 35, and his stepfather Donald Mayer, 51, who were found dead at their home on 28 February.

A newly unsealed search warrant also alleges that the suspect's phone contained material relating to a neo-Nazi group called the Order of Nine Angles and praise for Adolf Hitler.

Investigators also discovered antisemitic writings in which the accused allegedly detailed his plans to kill Trump as a part of a broader goal to overthrow the government, according to the court document.

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c62g8d47z86o
 
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