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Operation Yewtree & Other Historical Child-Abuse Allegations

Death is too good for him. Still, there's a special circle of Hell for people like him...
 
Dinobot said:
He's been dead to me for a number of years.....
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A while before his arrest I read on a conspiracy forum that a name was about to come out that will break your heart.

Another website gave hints like can you tell who it is yet? and the like. ;)

I thought 'No. Not Rolf.' :(
 
escargot said:
A while before his arrest I read on a conspiracy forum that a name was about to come out that will break your heart.

Another website gave hints like can you tell who it is yet? and the like. ;)

I thought 'No. Not Rolf.' :(
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I remember seeing him in an episode of Goodnight Sweetheart, and just got a creepy vibe from him. Years later, I understood why.
 
Haha, David Sillito on Radio 4's The World at One just described how Harris, on way into court for his trial, smiled and waved at spectators.

Nobody waved or smiled back. Harris seemed taken aback. :chuckle:
 
escargot said:
@Mrs Migs was spot-on then - nearly a fortnight. :bthumbup:
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(I’m currently off work recuperating after surgery and have been for 4 weeks. You can tell I’m bored cos I’ve discovered a sleb gossip site, and it’s been speculated about on there). The family evidently wanted to get him buried out of the way before the news came out.
 
Mrs Migs said:
(I’m currently off work recuperating after surgery and have been for 4 weeks. You can tell I’m bored cos I’ve discovered a sleb gossip site, and it’s been speculated about on there). The family evidently wanted to get him buried out of the way before the news came out.
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What surprises me is that t'media MUST have known he'd died yet nobody breathed a word.
Perhaps the idea is to spare his family the ghoulish speculation.*

*Mostly from me.
 
The Daily Mail had pictures on the 11th of a private ambulance at his house, which was a bit of a give-away. One of the captions said "The vehicle, used by undertakers (hint! hint!), left at around 6pm. The Harris family has declined to comment".
 
escargot said:
What surprises me is that t'media MUST have known he'd died yet nobody breathed a word.
Perhaps the idea is to spare his family the ghoulish speculation.*

*Mostly from me.
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And me. @escargot and I will be at the start of the conga line....
 
Nobody here is a fan of predatory paedophiles, but if members could limit the number of death-celebration posts, it would reflect better on our community.

Once again, this place is not Twitter or Facebook and there's a serious title at the top of the thread.
 
Yithian said:
Nobody here is a fan of predatory paedophiles, but if members could limit the number of death-celebration posts, it would reflect better on our community.

Once again, this place is not Twitter or Facebook and there's a serious title at the top of the thread.
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Message received and understood.
 
What I find hard to understand is the fact that these high profile entertainers had such an ability and yet some seem to have had a very dark side to them. Ok they can use their position to act out their warped fantasies but must have some inner demon to want to do so. Whilst I guessed probably 50 years ago what JS was up to, I had no idea about RH and his activities. Some seem to have had more "power" than others.
 
PeteS said:
What I find hard to understand is the fact that these high profile entertainers had such an ability and yet some seem to have had a very dark side to them. Ok they can use their position to act out their warped fantasies but must have some inner demon to want to do so. Whilst I guessed probably 50 years ago what JS was up to, I had no idea about RH and his activities. Some seem to have had more "power" than others.
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Yup, spot-on. Gary Glitter, for example: he was on a comeback at the time of his downfall, and would surely have gone on to a new career in light entertainment and especially the TV talent shows. Instead, he was exposed as a serial child abuser.

The expression 'The Talent' comes up a lot in these scandals. It means the stars who need to be kept onside.
As you say, it's about power. The 'Talent' had the power to get away with behaving abusively towards people whose careers would be wrecked if they stood up for themselves.

This exact point is made by a make-up artist in the recent Rolf Harris TV documentary. She says Harris groped her every time she attended to him on set, in a room with male workers looking on, and not one said a word. They'd be out on their ears too.
 
Stormkhan said:
I got my first record player - a Dancette - when I was 10. Mum got me two 7" singles: Tie Me Kangaroo Down Sport and The Court of King Caractacus by Harris.
While everyone's heard of his 'grown-up' songs, people forgot his 'kiddies' songs. :oops:
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I believe I still have my original copy of Two Little Boys...
 
Stormkhan said:
I got my first record player - a Dancette - when I was 10. Mum got me two 7" singles: Tie Me Kangaroo Down Sport and The Court of King Caractacus by Harris.
While everyone's heard of his 'grown-up' songs, people forgot his 'kiddies' songs. :oops:
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Jake the Peg and Down Came The Rain being the two I remember best. Mostly because my brother was terrified of 'Down Came The Rain' and would burst into tears before it ever got to the first verse. I don't think I've heard it for years, however, Jake the Peg used to get wheeled out every now and then.
 
gordonrutter said:
I believe I still have my original copy of Two Little Boys...
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Worrying in hindsight. Like others on here I've regarded JS as a creep since the 1980's or earlier, but I never sussed RF. It's really hard to reconcile his on stage persona and things like the kids' songs (which were fun) with what he really was.

GG always struck me as a creep as well, but I guess the radar doesn't always work as in the RF case.

I feel sympathy for Cliff Richard caught up in this (although he is a bit odd, but so am I) and Paul Gambaccini as well, Totally innocent. Others have been caught up as well.

It must be an absolute nightmare investigating stuff like this, I have every sympathy with the police trying to make sense of such cases and steering the narrow line between convicting absolute beasts and damaging blameless individuals by following up on unfounded allegations which nevertheless get in to the public domain. .
 
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News presenter Huw Edwards is being sentenced today.

He pleaded guilty but apologised to everyone concerned and asked for his mental state, affected by stress, to be taken into consideration.
As he's being dealt with in the Magistrates' Court there'll likely be a suspended sentence and he'll certainly be on the Sex Offenders' Register.

He's thrown away all that public esteem and money for a few dirty pictures. :dunno:

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Huw Edwards in court for sentencing hearing

Disgraced BBC News presenter Huw Edwards is in court at a hearing where he will be sentenced for charges of making indecent images of children.

In July, the former newsreader admitted having 41 such images, which were sent to him on WhatsApp - including some showing a victim aged between seven and nine.

He nodded but stayed silent as he walked through a large gathering of photographers and journalists outside Westminster Magistrates' Court in London on Monday.

The court heard that Edwards sent hundreds of pounds to a convicted sex offender after they sent him pornographic images.

While most of the images were of adult men, a significant proportion of the images were of children.

Of the 377 images, 41 were indecent images which means they were underage.

Prosecutor Ian Hope confirmed details from the first hearing, that the Category A images Edwards was in possession of were mostly children aged 13-15.
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escargot said:
News presenter Huw Edwards is being sentenced today.

He pleaded guilty but apologised to everyone concerned and asked for his mental state, affected by stress, to be taken into consideration.
As he's being dealt with in the Magistrates' Court there'll likely be a suspended sentence and he'll certainly be on the Sex Offenders' Register.

He's thrown away all that public esteem and money for a few dirty pictures. :dunno:

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Huw Edwards in court for sentencing hearing
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He ought to have taken the state of his mental health and future stress into consideration before giving into any impulse he may have had at the time...
 
Dinobot said:
He ought to have taken the state of his mental health and future stress into consideration before giving into any impulse he may have had at the time...
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Yep. He was fit, sane and unstressed enough to be earning £480,000 of taxpayers’ money. Right up to the point where the dirty pictures were found on his phone.

Now, suddenly but unsurprisingly, he’s mentally and physically ill.

Quelle surprise.

maximus otter
 
Dinobot said:
He ought to have taken the state of his mental health and future stress into consideration before giving into any impulse he may have had at the time...
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Yup, if only because of the potential for further stress his inevitable prosecution and conviction would bring.

It was also stupid because phones are deadly for keeping useful evidence. Bang to rights.

I've blocked colleagues for sharing illegal images, not of children (I'd report that PDQ) but of creepy stuff like a calf licking a man's testicles.

That wasn't too bad but I still had to dig deep into my phone to sack it off and I bet it's still somewhere on his.

Anyway, how is stress an excuse? Why didn't he (for example) pop over and break some police station windows?

Well, there's no fun in that.
 
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