I love the Underground and always travel on it when I visit London. :)
Trains, lifts, escalators, stations, maps, loads of my favourite things all at once. :bthumbup:
Be sure to breathe in that polluted air.
 
Be sure to breathe in that polluted air.
It's difficult not to, that's true. :thought:

Where I live we have no Tube; just trains, bicycles and shiny buses. Or people walk, that's a thing too.
Cars aren't much use as there are only a few roads in and out and they're always being dug up.
 
I'm just back from a long weekend in London, visiting my daughter who's living in Forest Hill before she goes back to Oz. We took the train to Wapping on Sunday for a walk by the river and I was telling her about how it was when I used to frequent London - when the docks were docks and there were working ships on the river and everywhere was warehouses and semi-deserted stretches of derelict buildings. Now it's all what my youngest daughter would call 'bougie', the warehouses are expensive riverside flats, the Thames Path is frequented by walkers and it's very clean and tidy. I'm not sure she believed me.

But I also love the Tube. When you live somewhere that public transport is one bus a week and you have to drive to get ANYWHERE, trains that run regularly and are quick, easy ways of getting from A to B (even if they are crowded) is FABULOUS!
 
I'm just back from a long weekend in London, visiting my daughter who's living in Forest Hill before she goes back to Oz. We took the train to Wapping on Sunday for a walk by the river and I was telling her about how it was when I used to frequent London - when the docks were docks and there were working ships on the river and everywhere was warehouses and semi-deserted stretches of derelict buildings. Now it's all what my youngest daughter would call 'bougie', the warehouses are expensive riverside flats, the Thames Path is frequented by walkers and it's very clean and tidy. I'm not sure she believed me.

But I also love the Tube. When you live somewhere that public transport is one bus a week and you have to drive to get ANYWHERE, trains that run regularly and are quick, easy ways of getting from A to B (even if they are crowded) is FABULOUS!
Various old TV shows were filmed around the derelict Docklands. You can find The Professionals or The Sweeney charging around there in Ford Granadas on YouTube and UK Gold. :bthumbup:

I bet you know what the Wapping jibs did during Churchill's funeral.
 
Various old TV shows were filmed around the derelict Docklands. You can find The Professionals or The Sweeney charging around there in Ford Granadas on YouTube and UK Gold. :bthumbup:

I bet you know what the Wapping jibs did during Churchill's funeral.
I do sometimes watch some old episodes of TV shows just for the nostalgia of seeing how the place used to look. It is almost impossible to believe that it is the same city. But I do not know about the Wapping jibs - Churchill's funeral being a little before my time! What did they do? Dip?
 
I do sometimes watch some old episodes of TV shows just for the nostalgia of seeing how the place used to look. It is almost impossible to believe that it is the same city. But I do not know about the Wapping jibs - Churchill's funeral being a little before my time! What did they do? Dip?
Yup, 36 jibs all dipped together in salute as Churchill's coffin was carried by aboard a survey vessel called Havengore.
I remember the funeral very well as it was covered on TV and in the newspapers.
Churchill was still a massive hero to my parents' generation.
 

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Yup, 36 jibs all dipped together in salute as Churchill's coffin was carried by aboard a survey vessel called Havengore.
I remember the funeral very well as it was covered on TV and in the newspapers.
Churchill was still a massive hero to my parents' generation.
All I really remember is that my mother HATED Churchill, so he was never mentioned in our house. I may well have seen something about the funeral subsequently of course.
 
I love the Underground and always travel on it when I visit London. :)
Trains, lifts, escalators, stations, maps, loads of my favourite things all at once. :bthumbup:
Just back from a visit to London. I went on a behind the scenes tour of Charing Cross, which was ok. But like an idiot I neglected to ask about any ghost stories. Damn and blast.

Nb did not see Catseye but did see Stu Neville.
 
Churchill: such a complex legacy. On the one hand, he'd gladly set the Army upon striking workers; on the other, he had the vision to see the Nazis for exactly what they were, while other politicians would've handed the country over to them.
 
Not a ghost but I thought it might be of interest. I found we had an old pre Harry Beck Underground map.
ooh, it's got Down Street, Dover Street and Brompton (Road) too, all closed stations on the Piccadilly line that disappered in 1932-3. Designed by Fred Stingemore (always enjoyed his name :))
My work relates to the history of the Underground. We were looking for credible-ish Tube ghost stories around 2017-8, but none of them were very compelling, and none have named witnesses or specific dates (except maybe Gary Numan, will have to read that story.) The William Terris thing doesn't really make sense - he died 10 yrs before Covent Garden station opened, and the Adelphi Theatre where he was killed is not very close.

[edit, oh well Gary's story was a bit rubbish too. Here's a pic of the innards of the station in 1928 - i think this was posted in the timeslip thread too (they call these 'stomach diagrams')]

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ooh, it's got Down Street, Dover Street and Brompton (Road) too, all closed stations on. the Piccadilly line. Designed by Fred Stingemore (always enjoyed his name :))
My work relates to the history of the Underground. We were looking for credible-ish Tube ghost stories around 2017-8, but none of them were very compelling, and none have named witnesses or specific dates (except maybe Gary Numan, will have to read that story.) The William Terris thing doesn't really make sense - he died 10 yrs before Covent Garden station opened, and the Adelphi Theatre where he was killed is not very close.
I’m not convinced by the Terris one. I think they’ve just made it fit. I did start a thread about if so called famous ghosts where who they are claimed to be or just normal people.
 
Not a ghost but I thought it might be of interest. I found we had an old pre Harry Beck Underground map.
I went to school with the great nephew of Harry Beck. My best mate he was. I think “Uncle Harry” died in the early 1970’s so I didn’t get to meet him but did get to meet his younger brother – my school mates Grandad.

Apparently, the tube authorities have tried to better Harry’s map over the years but couldn’t. The tube map you see today (with a few alterations of course) is still Harry Becks original.
 
Oh I forgot to mention. My old mate was an incredibly good drawer, even in primary school that boy could draw. If my memory serves me correctly at the age of six he draw a picture of the Fonz (Henry Winkler) that was so good, the head teacher pinned it up in the school assembly hall as an example to other pupils.

Obviously, creative drawing must run in the family. Sadly, I haven’t seen him in years. It was his mum that rescued the young child from the derelict building that I posted about a couple of years back.
 
I went to school with the great nephew of Harry Beck. My best mate he was. I think “Uncle Harry” died in the early 1970’s so I didn’t get to meet him but did get to meet his younger brother – my school mates Grandad.

Apparently, the tube authorities have tried to better Harry’s map over the years but couldn’t. The tube map you see today (with a few alterations of course) is still Harry Becks original.
Beck died in 1974. His last published map was 1960, but he continued tinkering and drawing up ideas for improvements for ages afterwards, cutting out pieces and arranging them on his living room floor. He's sometimes portrayed as a map obsessive, but he had a wide range of other interests. Since 2001 all tube maps have a bit of text at the bottom, saying they are based on his original design.
 
Churchill: such a complex legacy. On the one hand, he'd gladly set the Army upon striking workers; on the other, he had the vision to see the Nazis for exactly what they were, while other politicians would've handed the country over to them.
On the other hand, he also wanted to recruit the remains of the Wehrmacht in 1945 to continue Operation Barbarossa.
 
Having reacquainted myself with the underground last weekend, I can't help feeling that there's something 'sensory deprivation' about it all. You're generally below ground, no natural light, so everything you are seeing and hearing is artificial and manufactured. I wonder if the lack of natural reference points can sometimes make the brain 'trip out' and create images and sensations that aren't really there?

Btw, I know not all underground stations are underground, if you see what I mean, but just go with me for now...
 
Having reacquainted myself with the underground last weekend, I can't help feeling that there's something 'sensory deprivation' about it all. You're generally below ground, no natural light, so everything you are seeing and hearing is artificial and manufactured. I wonder if the lack of natural reference points can sometimes make the brain 'trip out' and create images and sensations that aren't really there?

Btw, I know not all underground stations are underground, if you see what I mean, but just go with me for now...
In my recent trip where it was practical to do so I always took a bus rather than the tube, to allow me to experience things rather than be stuck in a soulless cylinder seeing nothing.
 
In my recent trip where it was practical to do so I always took a bus rather than the tube, to allow me to experience things rather than be stuck in a soulless cylinder seeing nothing.
In my youth, I travelled about on the Underground all-day-long, five day's a week as a messenger boy! Got to know London very well back then, quite a number of times I innocently walked into 'non-train users areas,' and seeing deserted underground stations completely empty, eerie and void of anything except old tiles on the walls, and posters from yester-year.
Spooky ~ yes they were, very spooky, I almost found myself trapped inside one those abandoned and deserted stations when I realised that I was locked and gated inside one of the old entrances!
Purely by chance, an underground train worker happened to be passing by on the pavement outside the gate, and noticed me locked inside and unable to get outside, he managed to find a key from somewhere close by to my relief.
Never really liked London much itself though, it had a many quirky areas of course, but most of the people were self-motivated and didn't speak or acknowledge other people in any way, shape or form when passing except for the market places. I found it sometimes quite interesting just to sit back a while and observe all the other people as they went about their business, what they wore and the way they acted back in those days. (Carnaby Street Day's)
 
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In my youth, I travelled about on the Underground all-day-long, five day's a week as a messenger boy! Got to know London very well back then, quite a number of times I innocently walked into 'non-train users areas,' and seeing deserted underground stations completely empty, eerie and void of anything except old tiles on the walls, and posters from yester-year.
Spooky ~ yes they were, very spooky, I almost found myself trapped inside one those abandoned and deserted stations when I realised that I was locked and gated inside one of the old entrances!
Purely by chance, an underground train worker happened to be passing by on the pavement outside the gate, and noticed me locked inside and unable to get outside, he managed to find a key from somewhere close by to my relief.
Never really liked London much itself though, it had a many quirky areas of course, but most of the people were self-motivated and didn't speak or acknowledge other people in any way, shape or form when passing except for the market places. I found it sometimes quite interesting just to sit back a while and observe all the other people as they went about their business, what they wore and the way they acted back in those days. (Carnaby Street Day's)
I actually enjoy London - it's a huge change from my locality with its very small population so you see the same people every day (when you see anyone at all), so I appreciate the whole culture-change. It's actually refreshing to be able to walk down a street and not be engaged in conversation with people you know every few steps. The anonymity is pleasant, as is things being open 24 hours and lots of alternative ways of passing the time with galleries and museums and suchlike.

I couldn't live there now, and I always enjoy coming home to my quiet rural backwater, but the buzz and energy when I get off the train at Kings Cross is still wonderful!
 
I actually enjoy London - it's a huge change from my locality with its very small population so you see the same people every day (when you see anyone at all), so I appreciate the whole culture-change. It's actually refreshing to be able to walk down a street and not be engaged in conversation with people you know every few steps. The anonymity is pleasant, as is things being open 24 hours and lots of alternative ways of passing the time with galleries and museums and suchlike.

I couldn't live there now, and I always enjoy coming home to my quiet rural backwater, but the buzz and energy when I get off the train at Kings Cross is still wonderful!
Yes - there is that side to it of course. But my time there was when I was young and money ~ or lack of it was an issue, so no chance for shows and the like, as when I finished work it was catch the train (above ground), and head for home.
 
Yes - there is that side to it of course. But my time there was when I was young and money ~ or lack of it was an issue, so no chance for shows and the like, as when I finished work it was catch the train (above ground), and head for home.
I hate shows. I only go to free stuff (or museums and galleries). There's just so much to SEE, as opposed to my locality, where we've got a couple of museums of rural life, but they all involve driving miles to get to. You can't wake up on a Sunday morning and think 'I fancy a bit of people watching, an ice cream by the river and a pop into an art gallery for a poke around.' Not without getting into the car and going to look for all those things. In London I can walk out and it's there.

To be fair, that's pretty much city life anywhere, not exclusive to London, and my own fault for living in a hamlet of 100 people miles from anywhere. I love it here, truly, but just sometimes...
 
To be fair, that's pretty much city life anywhere, not exclusive to London, and my own fault for living in a hamlet of 100 people miles from anywhere.
Sounds like heaven to me. Once I retire I hope I never have to visit London ever again.
All of my London born and bred family have either ascended to the great hamlet in the sky or moved out to small places miles from anywhere. I will have absolutely no need to return to London
 
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