Ogdred Weary
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I do hope at some point there is a genuine and realistic book written about all that has happened through the auspices of the Lagina brothers and Co.
That seems extremely unlikely.
I do hope at some point there is a genuine and realistic book written about all that has happened through the auspices of the Lagina brothers and Co.
Why do you say that? Rick in particular is constantly saying how much he is in this for the story so to record his participation in the thread would seem a logical thing to do?That seems extremely unlikely.
Why do you say that? Rick in particular is constantly saying how much he is in this for the story so to record his participation in the thread would seem a logical thing to do?
When they had Randal Sullivan on basically just to publicise his book I felt they weren't up for it and I always assumed part of that was due to him doing something they wanted to do at some point in the future.
There are so many involved in the Fellowship of the Dig I would actually be more surprised if in the future someone didn't try to cash in on it all when the cash cow eventually dies.
They haven't found "nothing" though and I think that is what frustrates fans. The history is what is fascinating to most people it seems and I think a book about what they found without sensationalism ("ooh a Roman Templar ox shoe!" )would be brilliant. I would buy it.Also, how much money is there to be made in a book that says "we spent X amount of money and years to find nothing" compared to something more sensational?
I think he does but they they edit it out of the show. I love the fact that they have actually found traces of gold and silver down there. Is there an old mine down there that has been forgotten about? Is that what this has all been about for the past 200+ years?But they have an archaeologist on site who I thought would have guided the process more.
And they don't count on some viewers having long memories.
They haven't found "nothing" though and I think that is what frustrates fans. The history is what is fascinating to most people it seems and I think a book about what they found without sensationalism ("ooh a Roman Templar ox shoe!" )would be brilliant. I would buy it.
And so it begins... Season 11 Episode 1...
Here we go
But means nothing unless you know the context, which is always the problem with metal detecting. I have found a roman coin sitting above shards of Victorian pottery. Despite the difference in their ages they all seemed to be found at around the same depth. I think we are seeing the remains of someones coin collection.....2 more Roman coins, a British Tudor coin and a potential Indian coin found on Lot 5.
And that's what the team are trying to find out. What Is the context? Why are these different coins being found in this particular location. That's the fun of this show for me, not the finds themselves but why there is so much history and archaeology on this seemingly unimportant island in the North Atlantic.But means nothing unless you know the context, which is always the problem with metal detecting. I have found a roman coin sitting above shards of Victorian pottery. Despite the difference in their ages they all seemed to be found at around the same depth. I think we are seeing the remains of someones coin collection.....
I am inclined to think that there is -- or was -- something of great importance there. The connections with the Templars and the theory about Bacon being involved interest me. I suspect that the "gold treasure" business is a basic bit of disinformation (if you really wanted to hide a treasure would you leave a message there saying "there is treasure here"?) so I would forget all that drilling and concentrate on the older structures still being uncovered. Unfortunately it seems that the authorities want to prevent a lot of what they really need to do in some of those areas. The connections with places in France and the great circle line from Versailles going through the island suggest that more than gold treasure is involved.I do retain a slight interest in this for the same reason as @Mr. Banooka . A pirate hoard (which was originally my preferred theory) could have all sorts of coins in it, remembering gold and silver coins were effectively valid anywhere in the world.
But the more that gets discovered, the more of a puzzle the whole thing seems to be. And surely by now all the locations are thoroughly compromised from an archaeological standpoint?
But from an archaeological point of view they are not. Once you remove an item from where it was found without investigating the surroundings, you have lost the context. Metal detecting does not detect pottery, clay pipe, tile, etc which can all be dated and therefore provide context.And that's what the team are trying to find out. What Is the context? Why are these different coins being found in this particular location. That's the fun of this show for me, not the finds themselves but why there is so much history and archaeology on this seemingly unimportant island in the North Atlantic.
I'm not sure I get your point. They are investigating the surroundings. Records are being kept, locations of finds are logged. They are finding pottery. Gary isn't allowed to actually dig until Laird gives him the go ahead.But from an archaeological point of view they are not. Once you remove an item from where it was found without investigating the surroundings, you have lost the context. Metal detecting does not detect pottery, clay pipe, tile, etc which can all be dated and therefore provide context.
Laird Niven and his team are the only ones carrying out a true archaeological investigation on the island and Laird is only there because the government of Nova Scotia insist he is there.
Well, I think the underlying story, which shows great interest in Oak Island from a very early period, with the Knights Templar involved, is very interesting. The fact that they were known to have conducted many underground excavations in Jerusalem and the theory that they might have recovered lost artefacts such as the Ark of the Covenant justifies more study. But I still think that the original money pit was a bit of disinformation to attract the greedy away from the real secret.Yes, we have no story, as such, just a random collection of stuff.
Useless.
And treasure or no treasure, where there is human activity there is going to be a story.
Gary gets a hit, digs a small hole, retrieves a piece of metal. That is not investigating the surroundings. To save going into a long explanation, google 'single context recording'I'm not sure I get your point. They are investigating the surroundings. Records are being kept, locations of finds are logged. They are finding pottery. Gary isn't allowed to actually dig until Laird gives him the go ahead.
Where is the evidence that he got quite rich?I think Samuel Ball' who seems to have got quite rich quickly had at least some of what was there.
He was originally named as one of the discoverers of the Money Pit. However his name was missed out on later accounts.He went from slave to land owner so he must have been reasonably well off.
You never see Gary digging holes,leastways he said he wasn’t allowed to dig them.Gary gets a hit, digs a small hole, retrieves a piece of metal. That is not investigating the surroundings. To save going into a long explanation, google 'single context recording'
You never see Gary digging holes,leastways he said he wasn’t allowed to
He said he doesn’t get to dig when he gets a detector signal,there’s someone else to do the grunt work,odd I know but it’s how it is.I've often wondered about that, is he not allowed to dig the holes, or is just so he has someone else with him to be on camera.
The big change over the last couple of years is that Gary now plots where he gets hits and these are logged before they are dug. To me this is ensuring that the finds are logged in relation to their surroundings.
If they actually find something the whole team are absolutely set for life so I don't think that is a factor!If they did find something it would surly mean the end to the show therefore it's stands to reason they won't find anything
Maybe they'll find Bigfoot.If they did find something it would surly mean the end to the show therefore it's stands to reason they won't find anything