Oak Island Money Pit

I think _______ made the money pit

  • Captain Kidd (privateer)

    Votes: 5 8.9%

  • Gangs Of Pirates (Thar be booty in that pit, arrr)

    Votes: 8 14.3%

  • The French (just to spite english or americans after their gold)

    Votes: 3 5.4%

  • The Vikings (the viking settle ment of vinland it thought to be on the nova scotia coast, which is w

    Votes: 2 3.6%

  • The Spanish (If you're worried about prirates and you've lost a lot of ships to a recent raid by the

    Votes: 3 5.4%

  • British Navy (on the run with lots of lovely treasure after/dureing the american war of independance

    Votes: 6 10.7%

  • Native Americans (dosen't fit with the artifacts found but native americans could theoreticly have m

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • Aliens (Aparently they made the pyramids too :rolleyes: )

    Votes: 5 8.9%

  • Another Theory?

    Votes: 13 23.2%

  • The Templars (after escaping from La Rochelle)

    Votes: 11 19.6%
  • Total voters
    56
Mr. Banooka said:
Season 10 starts on 15th November.
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Have you been watching this? I have just finished series 9 on Blaze and am interested to see what happens with this underground scanner thing.

I also had to laugh at the following exchange in the final episode.

Carmen Legge - This is a rock drill
Marty - And what would that have been used for?
Carmen - ... :bored:...weeeeelllll...
 
Min Bannister said:
Have you been watching this? I have just finished series 9 on Blaze and am interested to see what happens with this underground scanner thing.

I also had to laugh at the following exchange in the final episode.

Carmen Legge - This is a rock drill
Marty - And what would that have been used for?
Carmen - ... :bored:...weeeeelllll...
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Sure have. We're about 16 episodes in now. Let's just say the mystery deepens and there have been some interesting discoveries. Don't want to spoil it but there are some baffling finds on some of the previously unexplored lots.

My favourite thing so far their season is Gary coining the phrase "Carmen Dating".
 
Mr. Banooka said:
Sure have. We're about 16 episodes in now. Let's just say the mystery deepens and there have been some interesting discoveries. Don't want to spoil it but there are some baffling finds on some of the previously unexplored lots.

My favourite thing so far their season is Gary coining the phrase "Carmen Dating".
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Love it! I guess it will be about another year before it makes it to Blaze so I will just have to be patient.:curt:
 
Min Bannister said:
Love it! I guess it will be about another year before it makes it to Blaze so I will just have to be patient.:curt:
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Although I am in the UK I watch it on Dailymotion the day after it screens in the US. I find the show very frustrating and poorly edited. Some interesting finds but not nearly as interesting as Gary Drayton tries to make them sound. Have a listen to the podcast Digginoakisland. Very good resume of each episode (and the host has a hot line to Laird Niven!).
 
eziofan said:
Although I am in the UK I watch it on Dailymotion the day after it screens in the US. I find the show very frustrating and poorly edited. Some interesting finds but not nearly as interesting as Gary Drayton tries to make them sound. Have a listen to the podcast Digginoakisland. Very good resume of each episode (and the host has a hot line to Laird Niven!).
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I will look it out and yes I do agree.
Ooooohhhh! A looomp of ion! :willy:Etc. Ox shoes just aren't that exciting..

.And I have noticed poor editing. There could probably be a drinking game based on taking a drink whenever Jack's beard changes length.:beer:

I think the rest of the cast is getting a bit bored (badum tsh)which is a shame as there are genuinely some interesting things there. I still watch it though, I can't help myself!
 
I was disappointed with series 9: plenty of ox shoes and a fair number of iron fastening spikes. But nothing new. They dug all those big boreholes 'expecting' to find gold and silver ...and they found nothing. The swamp and the wharf-like features are where it gets interesting.
 
oxo66 said:
I was disappointed with series 9: plenty of ox shoes and a fair number of iron fastening spikes. But nothing new. They dug all those big boreholes 'expecting' to find gold and silver ...and they found nothing. The swamp and the wharf-like features are where it gets interesting.
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Agree

Season 10 has some big surprises around the age of Man made working on the Island.

We also have:

Reopening of the Garden Shaft.
Old well on lot 26.
Older than expected walls on lot 26.
Old well on Tom Nolan's land.
Other surprises on Tom's land.
Older than expected decorative metal.
Higher than expected gold and silver trace in the water samples.
Previously unknown tunnels in the money pit area.
Trace gold embedded in wood from the Money pit area.
+ much more

I couldn't care less about the treasure now though. It's all about the archeology and history and working out what the Hell happened on that Island and why was it so popular a destination for over 1000 years +.

I'm hoping that Season 4 of The Outer Banks brings the Pogues to Oak Island. ;0) Season 3 has been a preposterous blast from start to finish. I still can't believe that they found
El Dorado
 
Mr. Banooka said:
Agree

Season 10 has some big surprises around the age of Man made working on the Island.

We also have:

Reopening of the Garden Shaft.
Old well on lot 26.
Older than expected walls on lot 26.
Old well on Tom Nolan's land.
Other surprises on Tom's land.
Older than expected decorative metal.
Higher than expected gold and silver trace in the water samples.
Previously unknown tunnels in the money pit area.
Trace gold embedded in wood from the Money pit area.
+ much more

I couldn't care less about the treasure now though. It's all about the archeology and history and working out what the Hell happened on that Island and why was it so popular a destination for over 1000 years +.

I'm hoping that Season 4 of The Outer Banks brings the Pogues to Oak Island. ;0) Season 3 has been a preposterous blast from start to finish. I still can't believe that they found
Shane MacGowan
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Ah good - I will look forward to seeing series ten in due course.
I'm netflixless so had to google your last reference. Slightly disappointed we won't be seeing Shane MacGowan guesting.
 
Given the difficulty of sho-ing the Ox, I wold be interested in the ox cues.
 
Min Bannister said:
I will look it out and yes I do agree.
Ooooohhhh! A looomp of ion! :willy:Etc. Ox shoes just aren't that exciting..

.And I have noticed poor editing. There could probably be a drinking game based on taking a drink whenever Jack's beard changes length.:beer:

I think the rest of the cast is getting a bit bored (badum tsh)which is a shame as there are genuinely some interesting things there. I still watch it though, I can't help myself!
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One of my big beefs is they try to infer that the island was uninhabited before the money pit discovery. Have a look at the attached Poll Tax return from 1793. I would suggest you read a book by Gordon Fader called The Oak Island Mystery Solved: The Final Chapter. There is a mystery on Oak Island but it is not hidden treasure (no spoilers!). It is interesting that they have invited many crackpot theories onto the programme but have never invited Gordon Fader (and his, now deceased, co author Joy Steele) onto the show because their research has suggested a solution which doesnt fit the hidden treasure narrative.
 

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eziofan said:
One of my big beefs is they try to infer that the island was uninhabited before the money pit discovery. Have a look at the attached Poll Tax return from 1793.
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Yes, plenty farmers = plenty ox shoes, cart parts, axes and other farmer stuff! I will have a look for the book.

I have listened to an episode of the podcast which was good. I have started on series 9 and will see if I am keen enough to go right back to the beginning. :)
 
eziofan said:
One of my big beefs is they try to infer that the island was uninhabited before the money pit discovery. Have a look at the attached Poll Tax return from 1793. I would suggest you read a book by Gordon Fader called The Oak Island Mystery Solved: The Final Chapter. There is a mystery on Oak Island but it is not hidden treasure (no spoilers!). It is interesting that they have invited many crackpot theories onto the programme but have never invited Gordon Fader (and his, now deceased, co author Joy Steele) onto the show because their research has suggested a solution which doesnt fit the hidden treasure narrative.
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I've noticed that in the last couple of seasons that they seem to have dropped the whole uninhabited island idea. It is obvious that there has been habitation on the Island for a very long time as you say. I'm going to dig out that book you suggest, thanks for that.

I often wonder if a lot of the fallacies are down to the Readers Digest article. Having never read it I can't be sure. But that seems like the source for kicking off "recent" interest.

I also find it suspicious that the original story had Samuel Ball as one of the original Money Pit discoverers along with McGuiness et al. Just for him to be excused from the account. Of course that could be down to racism at the time, but I'm not so sure about that. The fact that he all of a sudden became very wealthy speaks volumes to me.

I could go on for hours on this but I need to take the kids to school now.
 
Since I'm not about to watch 10 seasons of people digging holes, can anyone summarize if they have during the series uncovered any irrefutable evidence of an actual proper shaft being dug to 100ft+ in ca.15th-17th centuries?

I know the original stories/evidence, of course. But I understood by the end of the 20th century the site(s) had been so dug over that if there ever had been such a shaft, treasure or not, all trace of it was lost.

If it had ever been there.
 
oxo66 said:
I was disappointed with series 9: plenty of ox shoes and a fair number of iron fastening spikes. But nothing new. They dug all those big boreholes 'expecting' to find gold and silver ...and they found nothing. The swamp and the wharf-like features are where it gets interesting.
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Ah yes, the swamp that wasnt a swamp until they put the road in! And the sunken ship that isnt a sunken ship!
 
Mr. Banooka said:
I've noticed that in the last couple of seasons that they seem to have dropped the whole uninhabited island idea. It is obvious that there has been habitation on the Island for a very long time as you say. I'm going to dig out that book you suggest, thanks for that.

I often wonder if a lot of the fallacies are down to the Readers Digest article. Having never read it I can't be sure. But that seems like the source for kicking off "recent" interest.

I also find it suspicious that the original story had Samuel Ball as one of the original Money Pit discoverers along with McGuiness et al. Just for him to be excused from the account. Of course that could be down to racism at the time, but I'm not so sure about that. The fact that he all of a sudden became very wealthy speaks volumes to me.

I could go on for hours on this but I need to take the kids to school now.
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Yes, the modern fallacies are down to the Reader Digest account. This account was inaccurate to say the least, As with all stories such as this you have to go back to the earliest written records. I have discovered a New York Herald article from 1866 giving the original story. This article was syndicated in the UK and attached is a copy from the Leamington Advertiser from the same year. Incidentally, there is no evidence that Samual Ball became very wealthy!
 

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I note that the "Another theory" is still leading the vote regarding the pit's origins.
That obviously covers a lot of possibilities, with the most likely being that it's merely a natural sink-hole that accumulated debris.
I reckon the only money to be made from the pit is whatever profit the streaming service makes from broadcasting the TV show.
 
I have been wondering what might happen if the history turns out to be a bit more embarrassing than first thought? For example, in no particular order, here are some of the artifacts found outside of the money pit area:-

Mi'kmaq pottery
Gunshot
Farming equipment.

:thought:
 
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