staticgirl
Justified & Ancient
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Tired people....
Spot on.Here's the thing, there are plenty of very shy rare animals of both land and sea, but none is so rare or shy that they have never been captured or studied, if there is a population of big cats in the UK, what we need is real physical evidence, what do we get?
Ambiguity?
And as I have repeatedly observed ambiguity is the hallmark of Fortean phenomena, people are more than welcome to go on wild goose chases, and the phenomena will lay lots of false clues that send to down the wrong path, until we stop chasing it and try to understand what it's trying to tell us ( I haven't a clue )
Could be any black cat, not exactly in-focus either, are there any more photos? Even if it is a leopard cub it is highly likely to have been an illegal pet that either escaped or was no longer wanted. Curious as to why no scavengers have been at the corpse nor any sign of blowfly etc.?What does everyone make of this,described as a malnourished 6-7 month old leopard cub?View attachment 69686
Episode 96 of big cat conversations podcasts tells the story,but 100% that is NOT a leopard cub.Could be any black cat, not exactly in-focus either, are there any more photos? Even if it is a leopard cub it is highly likely to have been an illegal pet that either escaped or was no longer wanted. Curious as to why no scavengers have been at the corpse nor any sign of blowfly etc.?
There is a leopard cub of the same age in this news report:Episode 96 of big cat conversations podcasts tells the story,but 100% that is NOT a leopard cub.
I listened to the podcast,apparently the “cubs” mother was shot in the UK the year before leading to the leopard cubs malnourished state and stunted size,then a few months after the mothers death that cub was shot.There is a leopard cub of the same age in this news report:
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/ar...-month-old-leopard-cub-learns-walk-again.html
The paws are too small and so is the tail. I won't be listening to the podcast...
Do we have an out-of-focus image of the mother, too? The tail on that 'cub' looks odd, like the image has been photoshopped to make it look longerI listened to the podcast,apparently the “cubs” mother was shot in the UK the year before leading to the leopard cubs malnourished state and stunted size,then a few months after the mothers death that cub was shot.
No,they never photographed the mother,burnt the cadaver I think?Do we have an out-of-focus image of the mother, too? The tail on that 'cub' looks odd, like the image has been photoshopped to make it look longer
"We finally have evidence of big cats roaming the British countryside....!"No,they never photographed the mother,burnt the cadaver I think?
Maybe, but given the cat is not moving an inch and it happened recently then why aren't we seeing an in-focus HD image? far too much ambiguity.Could it be a Kellas?
100 episodes of the big cat podcast and that’s the sum total of evidence??Maybe, but given the cat is not moving an inch and it happened recently then why aren't we seeing an in-focus HD image? far too much ambiguity.
Well no, actually, just people who don’t believe in the supernatural, think yetis are nonsense, would laugh at you if you talked about UFOs , but saw something they believed was a big cat. And that, to me, seems a bit different to other ‘fortean’ phenomena we talk about on hereExactly the same sort of people who encounter and even get pursued by balls of light/plasma/unidentified craft in the sky, encounter ghosts and experience time-slips...
I agree. The feet are not those of a cub of a large catThere is a leopard cub of the same age in this news report:
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/ar...-month-old-leopard-cub-learns-walk-again.html
The paws are too small and so is the tail. I won't be listening to the podcast...
Not wanting to be pedantic, but did they believe in the existence of these black cats before they encountered one? So many witnesses to poltergeist activity were skeptics before they had their experience, likewise ghost sightings and UFOs.Well no, actually, just people who don’t believe in the supernatural, think yetis are nonsense, would laugh at you if you talked about UFOs , but saw something they believed was a big cat. And that, to me, seems a bit different to other ‘fortean’ phenomena we talk about on here
Actaully, is that a long tail or an ordinary cat tail and a gouge in the soil? The half of the tail furthest from the body (by the foot) doesn't look tail-like at all.Do we have an out-of-focus image of the mother, too? The tail on that 'cub' looks odd, like the image has been photoshopped to make it look longer
Don’t think they saw black cats , to be equally non pedantic. I don’t think any of them were believers beforehand and am not sure they are believers now, just that they saw something that looked like a big cat and they couldn’t explain it in normal parameters. They are all different places/ people/ incidents i was told about over a fair period of time.Not wanting to be pedantic, but did they believe in the existence of these black cats before they encountered one? So many witnesses to poltergeist activity were skeptics before they had their experience, likewise ghost sightings and UFOs.
The tail doesn't taper, but looks wider than the section closer to the back.Actaully, is that a long tail or an ordinary cat tail and a gouge in the soil? The half of the tail furthest from the body (by the foot) doesn't look tail-like at all.
The “malnourished leopard cub” was feeding on a dead sheep when it was shot,the podcast made no mention of why the pruners were there,as you say the foot is the scale.After 100 podcasts spanning several years that’s what it amounts to…….Nada.And another curiosity. What's with the pruners that are between the front legs? For scale?
Are they suggesting that little kitty killed the sheep...?!The “malnourished leopard cub” was feeding on a dead sheep when it was shot,the podcast made no mention of why the pruners were there,as you say the foot is the scale.After 100 podcasts spanning several years that’s what it amounts to…….Nada.
I don’t know to be honest,but if the podcast owner is suggesting that’s a young leopard born in the UK then anything is possible.Are they suggesting that little kitty killed the sheep...?!
Most lamb deaths, pre and post natal, are nearly always blamed on foxes here - I don't know about Britain. What has been found is that a fox will take a carcass (due to birthing problems), rather than a live lamb. I reckon that this pussy cat has just taken advantage of a possible stillborn lamb, like the fox does.Are they suggesting that little kitty killed the sheep...?!
A real smoking gun or cat"We finally have evidence of big cats roaming the British countryside....!"
"Quick, burn it...!"
So I just watched 3 minutes. He's funny. He speaks of the one deer kill having been DNA tested and says that the testing was able to pick up DNA of a Burmese python along with dog and fox. He goes on to reveal that the python DNA was from scissors(?) he'd used on the deer that he'd also used to taxidermy a Burmese python. He comments on how well these traces of contaminating DNA were picked up, but no ABC.Proof?
He is one of britains 3 top big cat experts,seen lots of cats including cubs in the UK but never managed to photograph one.The roadkill cat was 9 feet long but he didn’t have the correct lens on his camera to photograph the creatureSo I just watched 3 minutes. He's funny. He speaks of the one deer kill having been DNA tested and says that the testing was able to pick up DNA of a Burmese python along with dog and fox. He goes on to reveal that the python DNA was from scissors(?) he'd used on the deer that he'd also used to taxidermy a Burmese python. He comments on how well these traces of contaminating DNA were picked up, but no ABC.
Then he says that there were no dog nor fox prints found (nor prints of ABC) so the dog and fox DNA found is only a ruse to cover up the real (nonexistent) evidence of ABC.
So not only is he contaminating his specimen, he also won't accept anything that does not corroborate his belief.
I didn't bother watching any further.
He said he only had a telephoto lens with him. Couldn’t he just remove that & use the camera with no lens attached? Also why not take a photo of the whole animal while you’re there? For a naturalist that seems unforgivable.Proof?