Mobile Phone Tracking

[Cochise]

Well that information would only be pertinent if they needed to watch a middle aged bloke going about his business, I don’t think I am of any interest to them, plus they can only get that information with a warrant or a court order, now if we lived in a more dictatorial country you would have a very good point

I admire your trust. I don't have any .

 

[Stormkhan]

I admit a distrust of procedures being applied such as warrants and court orders, especially from current news affairs but I'm not sure we've descended into totalitarianism ... yet.

 

[Cochise]

I admit a distrust of procedures being applied such as warrants and court orders, especially from current news affairs but I'm not sure we've descended into totalitarianism ... yet.

As I said. I admire your trust. We are within a hair's width of people who promulgate contrarian views being debanked and made non people. Why should I believe what 'people' say I should believe? I don't. I accept I could be completely wrong, but don't try and shut me up. I've never run with the crowd and I'm not starting now and surely Forteans should understand that.
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[Kondoru]

Yup!

 

[Stormkhan]

I accept I could be completely wrong, but don't try and shut me up. I've never run with the crowd and I'm not starting now and surely Forteans should understand that.
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I hope you didn't think that was what I was trying to do. I have no right - nor ability - to shut anyone up. I may disagree with your views but they're yours to have. I do reserve the right, however, to poke fun or mildly question them. That's not gagging you in the slightest. You do you, and I'll do me - I don't want to persuade you otherwise, nor do I want to push my views onto you.

 

[Cochise]

I hope you didn't think that was what I was trying to do. I have no right - nor ability - to shut anyone up. I may disagree with your views but they're yours to have. I do reserve the right, however, to poke fun or mildly question them. That's not gagging you in the slightest. You do you, and I'll do me - I don't want to persuade you otherwise, nor do I want to push my views onto you.

Sorry. I meant 'them', not you. I am , I suspect like many on here, a very private person. I don't want anyone to know anything about me unless I give them permission. A smartphone tracks wherever you go, and I dislike that very much.

 

[AnonyJ]

Here's something I was told in around 2004/5 by a passing acquaintance - that one's mobile can ping a nearby tower/source and hence be 'tracked' even when turned off. They told me if I really wanted to not have this happen, that you had to remove the battery as well.

This was the era between smartphones and basic phones, so phones with keypads and rudimentary WAP access, and around the start of the Blackberry popularity.

Was he talking guff or not? It sounds fairly logical to me but I am in no way an expert at mobile tech!

 

[Floyd]

Here's something I was told in around 2004/5 by a passing acquaintance - that one's mobile can ping a nearby tower/source and hence be 'tracked' even when turned off. They told me if I really wanted to not have this happen, that you had to remove the battery as well.

This was the era between smartphones and basic phones, so phones with keypads and rudimentary WAP access, and around the start of the Blackberry popularity.

Was he talking guff or not? It sounds fairly logical to me but I am in no way an expert at mobile tech!

I was reading an article the other week about a guy in Gaza who was being contacted by Shin Bet (Israel's MI5) with instructions on getting people out of certain buildings and he said that even when he had a flat battery and/or no signal they still were able to get through to his phone.

 

[PeteS]

Sorry. I meant 'them', not you. I am , I suspect like many on here, a very private person. I don't want anyone to know anything about me unless I give them permission. A smartphone tracks wherever you go, and I dislike that very much.

I get what you're saying but I doubt that with hundreds of millions of mobile phones in use, phones will only be tracked if someone becomes a "person of interest" as the authorities put it. Having said that, being paranoid doesn't mean there is nothing to be paranoid about as the old saying goes. I do sometimes wonder why local, county and UK authorities keep showing so much interest in my life (when there's beggar all of interest in it). When do I become a "person of interest"?

 

[escargot]

This was the era between smartphones and basic phones, so phones with keypads and rudimentary WAP access, and around the start of the Blackberry popularity.

Was he talking guff or not? It sounds fairly logical to me but I am in no way an expert at mobile tech!

When a mobile phone is switched off it sends a 'goodbye' signal which is picked up by the nearest mast. So even if the battery is removed the phone's last location can be roughly deduced.

This fact helped convict the child murderer Ian Huntley in Soham. Flukily, his garden was the only part of the village covered by the particular mast that received the 'goodbye' signal when Huntley switched off a victim's phone.

 

[Sollywos]

I was reading an article the other week about a guy in Gaza who was being contacted by Shin Bet (Israel's MI5) with instructions on getting people out of certain buildings and he said that even when he had a flat battery and/or no signal they still were able to get through to his phone.

Yep I read that and was wondering whether to post it on here. I mentioned it to a friend who said she'd seen a documentary a few years ago about said technology having been developed (ie your phone could be taken over) and that the developers were in fact from Israel. I'd vaguely remembered reading something about it as well but wondered if it could have been on a conspiracy theory thread on here or fb rather than MSM, so neither of us were surprised but .... mmm.

 

[Floyd]

Yep I read that and was wondering whether to post it on here. I mentioned it to a friend who said she'd seen a documentary a few years ago about said technology having been developed (ie your phone could be taken over) and that the developers were in fact from Israel. I'd vaguely remembered reading something about it as well but wondered if it could have been on a conspiracy theory thread on here or fb rather than MSM, so neither of us were surprised but .... mmm.

The Israelis are pretty thorough (until recently).
It takes me at least two hours to clear customs....................

 

[RaM]

Wile our authority's may have to jump through allsorts of hoops to track/tap
and so on your phone, there is nothing to stop a friendly foreign power from
doing it and passing into on, though you would have to be quite naughty to
make it worth their time,