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Mobile Phone Tracking

Registrering your phone will not make any difference anyway soon.
as the phone will contain technology to relay your RFID information from your ID card back to the Galileo Sateleite trackinf system, thereby giving your exact location to one metre or so in real time.
Most cars in production will also have a an RFID transponder and GPS location device as standard.

there are benefits to people and drawbacks

The emergency services would be able to find accidents victims
easier, and would know how many where traveling in the car at the time of the crash.
 
Thats right it should be !!!!!!!!!!!!



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nah no technology out there at the moment thats for sure ;)
 
That story about the man who 'stalked' his girlfriend...has this gone up yet then?

Mobile phone tracking, girlfriend stalking and the law
All in a day's work
By OUT-LAW.com
Published Thursday 2nd February 2006 23:09 GMT

A service has launched in the UK which allows you to track any mobile phone around the globe and follow its movements from your own computer. The Guardian ran a feature on it yesterday called 'How I stalked my girlfriend'. It painted a scary picture.

The service is run by World-Tracker, a company based on the Isle of Man. When a mobile number is entered onto the World-Tracker website, a text message is sent to that phone, to ask if the person carrying the phone wishes to be tracked.

If consent is given by reply, World-Tracker will show the location of the mobile phone on a map or as a map reading, using a Google Maps-based interface. The accuracy is between 50 and 500 metres. When the phone moves, the movement can be monitored online whenever the phone is turned on.

The system can be accessed through either a PC or mobile phone with internet access. It works with mobiles on the Vodafone, O2, T-Mobile and Orange networks.

World-Tracker is targeting parents who want to keep an eye on their children’s movements; businesses wanting to track their workers; lone workers, who feel more secure if someone else knows where they are; and anyone else who has ever lost a mobile phone – giving reassurance that their phone can be located more easily.

But in yesterday's Guardian, freelance writer Dr Ben Goldacre revealed a sinister side to the service. (He didn't name the site in his article; but Dr Goldacre had discussed it previously in a Radio 4 interview in which World-Tracker was also involved).

He signed up – for £5 plus VAT – and he provided his girlfriend's phone number. He lives with her and said he needed her phone for just five minutes to initiate the tracking.

According to his article, the first message read: "Ben Goldacre has requested to add you to their Buddy List! To accept, simply reply to this message with 'LOCATE'" He replied from her phone as instructed and another text arrived: "WARNING: [this service] allows other people to know where you are. For your own safety make sure that you know who is locating you."

He deleted these messages and tracking began.

Dr Goldacre has said that he had his girlfriend's consent for his experiment, conducted in the interests of journalism; but his article portrays a system open to abuse – and according to World-Tracker, Dr Goldacre omitted some vital details about its service.

OUT-LAW spoke to World-Tracker today. It described a quite different service. A spokesman – who did not wish to be named – said the company follows an industry Code of Practice for the use of location data. He pointed out that a breach of the Ofcom-endorsed Code would result in the mobile networks withdrawing their services from World-Tracker.

An important step required by the Code was not mentioned in the Guardian article: it demands that periodic text messages are sent to the phone. According to World-Tracker's spokesman, the company complies with this requirement in the Code.

The Code of Practice states
"Subsequent to activation, the [location service provider] must send periodic SMS alerts to all locatees to remind them that their mobile phone can be located by other parties. These alerts should be sent at random intervals, not in a set pattern. The suggested text and minimum standard frequency for sending the alerts is set out in Annex D."

In fact, Annex D is marked confidential: it is only made known to location service providers like World-Tracker, perhaps to minimise the risk of message interception.

Fiona Caskey, an Associate with Pinsent Masons, the law firm behind OUT-LAW.COM, regularly advises companies on data protection issues, including surveillance of employees.

She said that if the company is following the code, it is probably doing all that is necessary to comply with the country's privacy laws. But unscrupulous boyfriends are taking a risk if they seek to exploit the service.

"If Ben hadn't obtained his girlfriend's consent, he'd be breaking the Regulation of Investigatory Powers Act, better known as RIPA," said Caskey. It is an offence under RIPA to intercept and delete someone else's text message, she explained. "Such behaviour runs a risk of up to two years' imprisonment and a fine."

Perhaps surprisingly, the boyfriend is unlikely to breach the Data Protection Act by his acts. "He could argue that he was doing this for 'domestic purposes' – and he's off the hook," said Caskey.

Ben Goldacre replies...
* Update, 03/02/2006 18:15: Dr Goldacre contacted OUT-LAW with the following comments: "You quote an accusation by World Tracker that I 'omitted some vital details about its service'. You go on to say that 'An important step required by the Code was not mentioned in the Guardian article: it demands that periodic text messages are sent to the phone.'"

Dr Goldacre says he told a World-Tracker representative on last Friday's Radio 4 interview that he had tracked phones through World-Tracker's service for several days, and then deleted them from the World Tracker website – "and they have never received these follow-up warning messages. It is as simple as that. The Radio 4 reporter's phone that we also tracked specifically never received any follow up text messages."

When confronted for a response on this matter, Dr Goldacre says the World-Tracker representative replied that he would "look at our system" and "make sure that a text goes out in a sooner period."

Dr Goldacre continues: "I explained my concern that once somebody was deleted off the system they would never get a follow-up text, and never know that they were being tracked, and he agreed: 'As things stand at the moment no, but this is something that we should seriously look at.'"

He concludes: "The security provisions that World Tracker currently have in place present no barrier whatsoever to somebody tracking a phone undetected, exactly as I described in my piece, and there was no wilful omission of information from my article."

OUT-LAW did not listen to the Radio 4 interview and we did not speak with Dr Goldacre before reporting the comments made by World-Tracker. We apologise for any offence caused to Dr Goldacre as a result of these omissions.

We have notified World-Tracker that this story has been amended and suggested that they communicate directly on this matter.

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2006/02/02/mobile-phone_tracking/
 
if you really are a techy bloke, you should know that GPS and mobile phones are two different things. GPS is for recieving, whereas a mobile sends out a signal regularly to show it's location.
 
Xanatico said:
if you really are a techy bloke, you should know that GPS and mobile phones are two different things. GPS is for recieving, whereas a mobile sends out a signal regularly to show it's location.
Unless, of course, the GPS is built in to the phone, in which case the GPS can receive the signal and the phone can then transmit all the relevant information using the normal 'Where am I?' signal as a carrier wave...
 
When fully deployed, Galileo will consist of a constellation of 30 satellites in 3 orbits offering unprecedented accuracy and reliability of positioning. This allows for a range of many applications, products and services to be developed for use in transport, telecommunications, fisheries and agriculture, civil protection, building, construction etc.

1 launch, 2 satellites (or perhaps even 1 depending on terminology). Some years to go before you get 1 metre accuracy. I wouldn't worry to much just yet :)

And if take up of the services is not good, then the whole thing will get canned anyway.

FWIW GPRS is what most current phone use. The newer phones (3G) use a different method.
 
I have used the (non gps) phone tracking and it is rubbish.
My own phone was over a mile out (they claimed accurate to within 6.3KM :roll: ) and a collegues was about 1/2 mile out (they claimed accurate to within 3KM)

I guess if you are tracking a sales force, or an errant spouse you can at least see what town they are in, and approx. what time they got there, but James Bond style location it 'aint.

GPS stuff however is pretty good tho.
 
Global Positioning System. A series of 24 geosynchronous satellites that continuously transmit their position. Used in personal tracking, navigation and automatic vehicle location technologies.



Spy in the sky means you're always monitored



Galileo satellite The Association of British Drivers has issued a statement in which it condemns the EU's Galileo project -- a beefed-up version of the existing GPS system -- as heralding "the end of liberty in Europe". The missive comes as the first signals from the newly launched first satellites reach Earth.

In its statement, the ABD said that the €4 billion project is being sold to the public on the basis of better and cheaper satellite navigation, but that it also offers governments the promise of easier satellite tracking.

Because the signals from Galileo will be stronger than those from GPS -- although, stung by competition, the US military which funds GPS is responding with a similar system -- the receivers won't have to be so complex, bulky and battery-hungry. The devices can therefore be smaller, and will fit in a watch or phone.

The pitch is that such devices can be used to locate lost children, accidents and breakdowns, said the ADB, but the same technology can also be used by governments to track their citizen 24 hours a day. "There will be no escape from state surveillance. Privacy will be consigned to history," said the body.

More stealth taxes
The ABD said that its principal concern is that Galileo will be used to extort yet more stealth tax from drivers.

The ABD continued: "The EU is already planning to use Galileo to enforce continent-wide road tolling, and the car-hating British government wants to be first. You won't be able to drive anywhere without the EU knowing where you are going, who you are travelling with, and what speed you are travelling at. They will be able to charge whatever they want. One journey, four lapses of concentration that take you slightly over the speed limit, and you'll be banned from driving.

"Manufacturers will be forced by law to fit Galileo devices to all cars. You won't be able to start your car without one. You won't be able to drive anywhere without being spied upon and paying through the nose for the privilege."

ABD Chairman Brian Gregory said: "The ABD is not opposed to technology, far from it, the existing GPS system provides great benefits to drivers. Yet we are very concerned indeed that with the prevalence in Europe of anti-car ideology, and the use of terrorism as an excuse to reduce civil liberties, this technology will be abused like no other has ever been. Galileo is not a light on the horizon, it is the entrance to an abyss."

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MOBILE PHONES Will be fitted with a Galileo chip as standard too.
 
For more detailed information

http://television.esa.int/photos/EbS42905.pdf

Quote: "In few years' time, a small Galileo chip will be integrated in mobile phones, giving users the ability to pinpoint restaurants, hotels, movie theatres, hospitals or car parks. Galileo will deliver the tools national governments need to introduce wide-scale road charging. The network will also underpin Europe's new air-traffic control system. The single European sky initiative will overhaul current technologies used to keep planes at safe separations, and allow pilots to fly their own routes and altitudes.

All the benefits listed above are made possible by Galileo's new technology, which is capable of pinpointing a location anywhere on earth within 1 metre. The chip won't only give you the location of any facility in the world, it will also enable Europe to locate any mobile phone user on the planet, by providing a direct link to Europe's GPS system.
http://www.evenmore.co.uk/prophecy/dec05.html
 
The chip won't only give you the location of any facility in the world, it will also enable Europe to locate any mobile phone user on the planet, by providing a direct link to Europe's GPS system[/b].

But you don't have to be where your phone is, yes?
 
But you don't have to be where your phone is, yes?

very true my friend, but I,m not talking about the people who want to be invisible, its the normal good folk that get controlled because they know "they" are able to track them.

Like I said this stuff is no good against Crims and terrorists that wish to be decieving.
99% of the public are not that type.

And how difficult will it be to make the Galileo chip monitor location also of your Implant or ID card ? and pass that back to the central computer systems and database.

If it can be done on small scale it can be done on a bigger scale, maybe not as well, but good enough to change behaviour.
 
What's the betting that when they have spread the technology to read the licence plates , you'll be required to fit them to your bike?

;)
 
jimv1 said:
What's the betting that when they have spread the technology to read the licence plates , you'll be required to fit them to your bike?

;)

You won't need to, the facial recognition software will be able to identify you then...
 
http://technology.timesonline.co.uk/tol ... 945496.ece
Shops track customers via mobile phone
May 16, 2008
Jonathan Richards, San Francisco

Customers in shopping centres are having their every move tracked by a new type of surveillance that listens in on the whisperings of their mobile phones.

The technology can tell when people enter a shopping centre, what stores they visit, how long they remain there, and what route they take as they walked around.

The device cannot access personal details about a person’s identity or contacts, but privacy campaigners expressed concern about potential intrusion should the data fall into the wrong hands.

The surveillance mechanism works by monitoring the signals produced by mobile handsets and then locating the phone by triangulation – measuring the phone’s distance from three receivers.

It has already been installed in two shopping centres, including Gunwharf Quays in Portsmouth, and three more centres will begin using it next month, Times Online has learnt.

The company that makes the dishes, which measure 30cm (12 inches) square and are placed on walls around the centre, said that they were useful to centres that wanted to learn more about the way their customers used the store.

A shopping mall could, for example, find out that 10,000 people were still in the store at 6pm, helping to make a case for longer opening hours, or that a majority of customers who visited Gap also went to Next, which could useful for marketing purposes.

In the case of Gunwharf Quays, managers were surprised to discover that an unusually high percentage of visitors were German - the receivers can tell in which country each phone is registered - which led to the management translating the instructions in the car park.

The Information Commissioner's Office (ICO) expressed cautious approval of the technology, which does not identify the owner of the phone but rather the handset's IMEI code - a unique number given to every device so that the network can recognise it.

But an ICO spokesman said, "we would be very worried if this technology was used in connection with other systems that contain personal information, if the intention was to provide more detailed profiles about identifiable individuals and their shopping habits.”

Only the phone network can match a handset's IMEI number to the personal details of a customer.

Path Intelligence, the Portsmouth-based company which developed the technology, said its equipment was just a tool for market research. "There's absolutely no way we can link the information we gather back to the individual,” a spokeswoman said. “There's nothing personal in the data."

Liberty, the campaign group, said that although the data do not meet the legal definition of ‘personal information’, it "had the potential" to identify particular individuals' shopping habits by referencing information held by the phone networks.

The receivers together cost about £20,000 to rent per month. About 20 the units, which are unobtrusive, cream-coloured boxes about the size of a satellite dish, would be needed to cover the Bluewater shopping centre.

Bluewater, in Kent, said it had no plans to deploy the equipment. A spokesman for Gunwharf Quays was not available for comment.

Owners of large buildings currently have to rely on manual surveys to find out how customers use the space, which can be relevant to questions of design such as where the toilets should be located or which stores should be placed next to one another.

Other types of wireless technology, such as wi-fi and Bluetooth, can be used to locate devices, but the regular phone network signal is preferable because it is much more powerful and fewer receivers are needed to monitor a given area.

Phone networks have long been capable of gauging the rough location of a handset using three phone masts, but the margin error can be as great as 2km. The process is also less efficient when the phone is indoors. Path Intelligence's technology can tell where a phone is to "within a couple of metres."

"You're basically going to know that that person has been in Starbucks," Toby Oliver, the company's chief technology officer, said.

Even when the owner is not using it, a mobile phone makes contact with the network every couple of minutes, which is enough for the receivers to get a reading on its position.

They say it can't tell who you are, only the unique IMEI code of the phone, but it's a very short step to any of:

- Connecting it to the CCTV to connect your face to your IMEI
- Making a deal with the phone companies to get your details from your IMEI
- Linking your credit card with your IMEI when you go to pay
- Banning people from the shop based on their phone code
etc.
 
the greatest part of any 'big brother' style survailence is to make it sound as innocent and harmless as possible.

so this sounds completely innocent and harmless.

d'oh!
 
Best to turn of the phones when visiting shopping malls from now on.Won't be long before this come to Europe.
 
Looks like it's already here:

http://www.pathintelligence.com/

Their website (which is full of repetitive corporate guff) claims that they installed the system in a shopping centre in "the South of England" in 2006.

Reality Mining (what a hideous turn of phrase):

http://reality.media.mit.edu/

Interesting reading if you can stand the rather convoluted style of writing.

We are currently building generative models to attempt to parameterize the underlying dynamics of these networks to gain insight into the functionality of the group itself.
 
graylien said:
Their website (which is full of repetitive corporate guff) claims that they installed the system in a shopping centre in "the South of England" in 2006.
Yep, if you look at the original article:
It has already been installed in two shopping centres, including Gunwharf Quays in Portsmouth, and three more centres will begin using it next month, Times Online has learnt.
:)
 
Home office info on the rollout of ID cards seems to suggest an increasing reliance on the private sector for assistance in the gathering of data and suggests to me that companies like t£$c0 may have more of a role to play in access to and the handling of our sensitive details than previously thought.

Which worries me a bit.
 
One of the attractions of North Wales is that you can get off the mobile phone surveillance network. Obviously it can also be a disadvantage depending on circumstances.
mobile phone surveillance network? I daren't ask
 
Are you really happy with the PTB knowing where you are at all times? If you have a mobile phone they do.
"They know where you are, man! All the time! The CIA can listen to you, spy on you, all the time you have a 'phone signal!" and so on.
Frankly, I don't care. If they are all that powerful then there's nothing I can do - and I'm not entirely sure they'd be interested in me.
 
"They know where you are, man! All the time! The CIA can listen to you, spy on you, all the time you have a 'phone signal!" and so on.
Frankly, I don't care. If they are all that powerful then there's nothing I can do - and I'm not entirely sure they'd be interested in me.
No, seriously. I wasn't even happy with my parents knowing where I was, let alone the rest of the world. Same probably true of these lads.
 
Are you really happy with the PTB knowing where you are at all times? If you have a mobile phone they do.
Well that information would only be pertinent if they needed to watch a middle aged bloke going about his business, I don’t think I am of any interest to them, plus they can only get that information with a warrant or a court order, now if we lived in a more dictatorial country you would have a very good point
 
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