Movie Mandela Effect

[Swifty]

So in England Easter is a special day to celebrate Ian Fleming?






Maybe we should return to topic.

The BBC seem to have done a deal to play those films?. Let's return to topic.

 

[Kate In The Desert]

I just want to pop in here to support Aydee Aitchdee. I too have never seen a Bond film. Never wanted to. Heresy, I know, but that's why they make chocolate and vanilla.

To get back on topic, I've also never experienced the Mandela Effect. Not in movies or elsewhere. Does that make me a weirdo?

 

[blessmycottonsocks]

I just want to pop in here to support Aydee Aitchdee. I too have never seen a Bond film. Never wanted to. Heresy, I know, but that's why they make chocolate and vanilla.

To get back on topic, I've also never experienced the Mandela Effect. Not in movies or elsewhere. Does that make me a weirdo?

Nope.
Just means you have a sound memory and aren't prone to flights of fancy.

 

[Aydee_Aitchdee]

Never mind all that Aydee - you've never watched a Bond film?!

No, never got around to it

At one point a few years ago, some friends gave me a list of Oscar winning movies between 1970 and 2010 and challenged me to name which ones I'd seen.

I could only name one - Platoon.

Not much for movies, I'd rather read...

 

[Aydee_Aitchdee]

I just want to pop in here to support Aydee Aitchdee. I too have never seen a Bond film. Never wanted to. Heresy, I know, but that's why they make chocolate and vanilla.

To get back on topic, I've also never experienced the Mandela Effect. Not in movies or elsewhere. Does that make me a weirdo?

And I'll support you on this! When talk of Mandela Effects first came around, the first one I heard of was the Berenstain Bears. My 6 year old potty mouth called them Beren-shit-stain Bears, so adult me had no idea what people were on about.

 

[eburacum]

There is quite a well-known cinema Mandela effect that I've mentioned before on this forum, which is the alternate ending to Big that some people remember. The alternate ending is described in this Straight Dope Thread in some detail.
https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anyone-else-remember-the-alternate-ending-to-big/103864

It is also described in the IMDB, as a possible 'alternate ending'

The alternate ending allegedly shows young Josh sitting in his classroom at school when he turns around to notice a young female classmate of whom who he recognizes as Susan- who went back to the fairground machine and wished that she was Josh's age. Some claim that this version was also seen on Latin American television. The Book of Lists, Canadian Edition, 2005 includes the following account: "In the original version, there was an additional scene at the end, in which Josh is back at school and a new girl named Susan arrives. The implication is that Susan went back to the carnival machine to make herself Josh's age. Due to negative audience feedback, the scene was cut from the movie."

The trouble is, no such ending was ever filmed, and none of the actors remember it.

 

[ChasFink]

I was thinking of posting this in the general Mandela thread, but since I discovered this one it seems better here. Not a true Mandela effect, since it's only me, but...

Last week I caught the end of the 1960 film The Lost World. I was amused, since I have caught just the end of this film in the past. And then I remembered a similar film from the late 1950s that included George Reeves, either before or during his stint on The Adventures of Superman, which I saw when I was a child or teen in the the late 1960s or 1970s. It had a similar dinosaur jungle theme, and I vaguely remember the story being a bit like Jules Vernes' Off on a Comet - i.e. some Velikovskyish action pulled our heroes off Earth and onto another planet or somesuch.

The problem is that my research shows Reeves did not make a film anything close to this, either in the 1950s or before.

I can only assume I am conflating The Lost World (which had a cast of familiar faces), the more obscure 1961 adaptation of the Verne story (Valley of the Dragons, a.k.a. Prehistoric Valley), and Reeves' appearance in the 1948 film Jungle Jim. Still, if it wasn't for that danged Interwebs, I would have sworn I saw that non-existent picture.

 

[escargot]

@ChasFink, can relate.

I've mentioned this before but can't now find my post about it.

As a bored teenager I watched Odette on TV:

Odette is a 1950 British war film based on the true story of Special Operations Executive French agent, Odette Sansom, living in England, who was captured by the Germans in 1943, condemned to death and sent to Ravensbrück concentration camp to be executed.

However, against all odds she survived the war and testified against the prison guards at the Hamburg Ravensbrück trials.

She was awarded the George Cross in 1946; the first woman ever to receive the award, and the only woman who has been awarded it while still alive.

A real feelgood fillum.

Years later I came across it again and settled down to enjoy the heroine's exploits.
However, this time things went badly. Instead of escaping and copping the gong, she was executed by a firing quad.

I'd actually been watching Nurse Edith Cavell. An entirely different story, wrong war.

 

[yodigo]

Anyone else remember these?
When Star Wars was released I read a newspaper article that said that (1) Darth Vader had his helmet because he'd fallen into a volcano (2) this was shown in the American release, which had a longer running time.
Also, I saw Close Encounters of the Third Kind a few times, which seemed to be cut a bit each time.
However it was normal back then to cut bits on different releases apparently.

 

[AnonyJ]

..From John Hamm's character in Amazon's Good Omens (what character was he supposed to be?).....

The Angel Gabriel! (their line manager being Archangel Michael played by Doon MacKichan, and big boss Metatron played by Derek Jacobi)

 

[sherbetbizarre]

Anyone else remember these?
When Star Wars was released I read a newspaper article that said that (1) Darth Vader had his helmet because he'd fallen into a volcano (2) this was shown in the American release, which had a longer running time.

Nope, never happened! I suspect George Lucas explained his origin at the time, and someone thought it was in an alternate cut.

Also, I saw Close Encounters of the Third Kind a few times, which seemed to be cut a bit each time.
However it was normal back then to cut bits on different releases apparently.

This simple explanation is that there were 2 versions of the film, the original (1977) and Special Edition (1980) The main difference is you see the inside of the spaceship at the end of the Special Edition (but there are changes throughout) And then later there's a Final Cut on DVD/Blu Ray.

There's a scene were Richard Dreyfuss jumps on the bonnet of his wife's car when she's leaving him, and the day after a TV airing in the 80's someone swore blind to me that she drove down the street with him on it (when he saw it at the cinema) but this does not happen in any version! I suspect he was getting mixed up with another film, but weird this mistake happened to film where there are multiple versions.

 

[escargot]

There used to be a TV advert for gum, possibly Wrigley's, wherein a carful of young servicemen travelled over a hill and down a dip towards a mist on the road. The vehicle disappears into the mist and is apparently taken away by aliens.

As this was around the time of the release of Close Encounters I was convinced it was a skit on a scene in the fillum.
On seeing Close Encounters I was surprised to see no such scene. Still baffled.

 

[catseye]

Everyone is moaning about scenes in the trailer that weren't in the film and I'm moaning about things in films that weren't in the book. From John Hamm's character in Amazon's Good Omens (what character was he supposed to be?) to the complete ineptitude of generations of filmmakers who can't seem to stick to the simple stories in The Secret Garden and A Wrinkle In Time (Oprah can burn in hell!)

To be charitable, we have to accept that books are a completely different animal to films. Films have to have far more pace than books - where you can expend several pages in a character's internal dialogue where they ponder to themselves on the morality of carrying out a certain action, you can't do this in a film and the character has to be 'shown' coming to a decision, rather than thinking about it.

A lot of films are absolute pants compared to the book, but that's not the fault of the film makers or the writers, it's because some stories just don't convert to film as easily as the money-makers think they should.

 

[ChasFink]

Anyone else remember these?
When Star Wars was released I read a newspaper article that said that (1) Darth Vader had his helmet because he'd fallen into a volcano (2) this was shown in the American release, which had a longer running time.

I saw Star Wars in its first week of release in the U.S., and during its "wide release" distribution several weeks later. Although there were different sound mixes based on how the movie was presented, I believe the visual element was identical in all versions throughout this time. There was no such scene, and in fact no explicit indication that Vader needed his helmet and suit for life support. If I remember correctly the novelization, which came out several months earlier, implied all "Dark Lords of the Sith" dressed this way.

Also, I saw Close Encounters of the Third Kind a few times, which seemed to be cut a bit each time.
However it was normal back then to cut bits on different releases apparently.

This simple explanation is that there were 2 versions of the film, the original (1977) and Special Edition (1980) The main difference is you see the inside of the spaceship at the end of the Special Edition (but there are changes throughout) And then later there's a Final Cut on DVD/Blu Ray.

The Special Edition was actually shorter than the original, cutting scenes that were unpopular, most notably Dreyfuss' character roaming the neighborhood to steal elements needed to build his giant Devil's Tower model. This was the final straw that makes his wife leave immediately, so there was a fair amount of editing around that moment. There was also a U.S. television cut for ABC that was a bit longer than the original. The director's cut is put together with bits from all of these.