- Aug 26, 2005
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They had just come from a Christmas party. I don't know what an airbase Christmas party is like, but there might be some clue there.
But that still doesn't explain the most remarkable phenomena, the lights that were moving around directly overhead and that shot laser-like beams down at the feet of the witnesses.Oh. I'm absolutely convinced that Halt and company were looking at stars, and at the lighthouse. The most damning evidence, to me, is that the south object set at about 0400, at the same time as Sirius set; Halt even describes it as getting lower over time on the tape.
The two objects in the north, which I have identified as Vega and Deneb, were still there when they gave up and went back to base. In an interview with Jenny Randles, Halt said the following;
This is the behaviour of stars, not aircraft or spacecraft.
True, but in several interviews I've seen Halt give, he emphasizes very clearly that it stopped overhead and appeared to fire a light beam down close to the witness's feet. As you know, many UFO sightings are associated with strange "light beams," especially maybe the ones discussed in Vallee's Confrontations, including the Dr X case and many in South America. So despite the obvious confusion of the witnesses regarding the multiple lights they were seeing, including some stars for sure, at least one behaved like UFOs reported in other cases. That doesn't imply that they were necessarily ETs, of course.Despite 'heading out fast', these objects did not seem to actually go anywhere. The one in the south is described as getting a little lower ('losing a bit of altitude'). If this object were darting all over the place, how could it also lose a bit of altitude? No-one on the tape mentions an object overhead.
Ah.... the beams of light!True, but in several interviews I've seen Halt give, he emphasizes very clearly that it stopped overhead and appeared to fire a light beam down close to the witness's feet.
This is intriguing...?One puzzling event which has mystified Colonel Halt ever since that
'fateful week', concerns the arrival of an unscheduled C141 Galaxy
transporter just hours after the encounter. He confirmed he knew
nothing about its purpose, or why a group of 'special individuals'
departed the aircraft and headed immediately out to the East Gate and
into the forest.
It certainly is. I can't see why anybody would train for a possible Iran rescue mission in an English forest -- there must have been far more suitable sites, geographically speaking, elsewhere. It does suggest that something significant was going on. On the other hand, I don't go for Vallee's theory that the whole thing was designed to see how base personnel would react to a fake UFO incident. One of the most sensitive nuclear bases in the world would not be a good choice for such an experiment. The problem is that plenty of disinformation has been sown after the initial event and there is no way of sifting out the false from the true at this late stage.This is intriguing...?
Why a Galaxy transporter - to deliver, or perhaps pick up a large cargo?
Who were those personnel and why that apparent interest?
This was during the Iran hostage crisis and meantime over in the U.S., something ultra top-secret was taking place - training for a potential hostage rescue mission.
On 29 December, this, at least partially, spilled over into what became known as the Cas-Landrum UFO incident.
Just another coincidence? I have seen zero evidence of any connection.
Yes... this is an aspect I had almost forgotten about and I wonder if it correlates with other accounts of 'unusual personell' taking an apparent immediate interest.It certainly is.
More interesting stuff. Do you know if anyone interested has actually tried to draw up a comprehensive time-line for everyone and everything that happened around that base during the whole period? I imagine you would need a wall-sized piece of paper (no doubt someone would know how to do it on a computer) and a lot of time on your hands to do this!Yes... this is an aspect I had almost forgotten about and I wonder if it correlates with other accounts of 'unusual personell' taking an apparent immediate interest.
We are talking about the first night's events, before Halt's involvement and people in white 'lab suits' reportedly examing the 'landing site' next morning.
I've posted some of these accounts and they make little sense as all else indicates the initial incident was, 'no big deal'.
Notable also that after Halt's subsequent involvement and discussions with the RAF base commander, what led to the now infamous, 'Halt memo'.
Maybe this is little known?
Continuing from his previously highlighted interview:
RAYL: Okay. Now, two weeks later on January 13, 1981 you issued a
memorandum to the British Ministry of Defense.
HALT: That's correct.
RAYL: And why did you do that?
HALT: At the request of the R.A.F. Liaison Officer or the R.A.F. Base Commander, as we called him, Don Moreland.
HALT: I went and approached him, and I said, "You know, this happened off base." Well, I did discuss this through our channels and the real answer from our channels was, "Hey, we don't want to touch this with a pole. This was a British incident. It happened off the installation. Let them handle it." So, I contacted him. In fact, I contacted him
earlier and the only reason the memo was dated that late was that he was on vacation and I wasn't able to find out what he wanted and how much detail he wanted and what he wanted to do with the information.
When I finally caught up with him on the, about the 10th or the 12th, he said, "Well, write a brief memo. Kind of sanitize it and we'll send it to London. We'll see what happens." So, that's what I did.
RAYL: That memo is probably one of the most amazing documents that's been released to the UFO community, I would say within the last 20 years or so and while you never use the term UFO in it, it reads likes science fiction. When you were writing that, did you get that sense at all, that what you're writing here may be not taken entirely
HALT: Well, there was no intent for that to be released publicly. That was, you know, not a classified document, as some people havea alluded to. It was given to Don Moreland to forward through his channels which was that Liaison Officer, Third Air Force, Air Force Headquarters in England, to the M.O.D. and see what their interest was. I really expected somebody to pop up in a day or two and want more details. To this day, it hasn't happened.
You remind re a large sketch of events I previously posted. In this, we can see depictions of the forest's indigenous muntjack deer, various personnel in the forest, maps of the weapons storage area and other base locations, the local creeks which Halt and others crossed and clear illustrations of our UFOs.I imagine you would need a wall-sized piece of paper...
The evidence is actually building up rather than going away. I was just scanning through long forgotten pages of Bruni's book. With several witnesses having time distortions and memory lapses it's clear that something was going on. Would it be fair to sum it up very crudely and say that we have: 1. A forest where odd things have happened in the past; 2. A major US nuclear base; 3. A UFO descending into the forest possibly leaving traces of limited probitive value; 4. Personnel having a variety of experiences ranging from UFOs overhead sending light beams down to the witnesses, alleged close examination of a hovering craft, and even a Close Encounters scenario with numerous high ranking officers surrounding a landed UFO, and the witness later receiving a top secret briefing on how many alien civilisations were visiting earth with a film show included, only to receive even more bizarre accounts about secret bases under Bentwaters complete with aliens in residence. Which events are real and which are crazy disinformation? When it points to the use of mind control in dealing with witnesses it gets really worrying, because we don't know whose stories are based on fact and who have had false stories planted in their minds. I don't think they would have gone to such trouble to cover up some minor mishap, so something big definitely happened.This is one of those moments when you look back on evidence gathered some years back and it seems to only now 'sink in'...
"I didn't let Randy read your letter until in front of myself aand 4 other people, I asked him, "What happened after you left the tower?" He said, "Nothing, I guess." So I asked him to think back to the tower and walk through his next movements. He said, "I remember leaving the tower and then I can remember as I was riding my bicycle home I was thinking that I must have turned in my weapon because I don't have it with me." He also said he looked over his shoulder a lot.
Then I let him read your letter.
When he read the part about the lights beaming into the WSA and the weapons being affected, I stopped him and asked, "Where were you? This was YOUR area, your weapons to guard, where were you?"
He was really spooked when he read your letter. I don't think he was aware of such a large amount of time that is unaccounted for. When I saw him after work that morning, he was so obviously scared and shaken. He was literally trembling. This would have been at least 6 hours after he sighted the craft. Why would his terror still be so vivid?
Perhaps one issue with UFOs, ghosts, poltergeists and all our delightfully related, eclectic Forteana forums topics, is that despite an inherent scepticism, sometimes the evidence otherwise, steadfastly won't go away...
Quite coincidentally, I was revisiting more of my archives and came across the following, which I had entirely forgotten about.With several witnesses having time distortions and memory lapses...
'Strange But True?' was broadcast in December 1994.It relates to Penniston's elaboration on events and whether this was prior to that infernal, 'hypnotic regression'.
This 'chatter' is not on Halt's tape, and there is every chance that they were misinterpreting it. Several witnesses who were actually at Bentwaters failed to see these 'beams'. and did not hear the chatter."Then it moved back toward Bentwaters and continued to send down beams of light, at one point near the weapons storage facility. We knew that, because we could hear the chatter on the radio."
The night Colonel Halt said he saw a UFO beam lights down into the Weapons Storage Area, I was on duty at the alarm monitor’s building, which was located between the double fence that surrounded the WSA. I never saw or heard about a UFO at the WSA, or beams of light, or anything like that.
I had control of the net. All security transmissions were going though me. Primary Central Security Control (CSC) had passed responsibility over to me, which they would usually do for several hours early in the 2300hrs – 0700hrs shift. I had the radio right next to me, and I never heard that a UFO was at the WSA. … Believe me, I would have known about that, if it had happened.
As previously mentioned, I participated in a documentary with the following splendid fellow.Several witnesses who were actually at Bentwaters failed to see these 'beams'.
No.To clarify, it was the US Veterans Association who apparently accepted the claim for compensation:A twist in the tale...?
Absolutely! Overall evidence seems to confirm it really was no big deal snd Halt's memo to the MoD ended up being filed as of, 'No Defence Significance'.One imagines that if the USAF had wanted to keep a genuine incident secret they would have made a much better job...