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Are there any accounts of visits from the Old Hag reported by sleepers reposing in the bright-lit daytime? I don't believe I've seen any.
OldTimeRadio said:Are there any accounts of visits from the Old Hag reported by sleepers reposing in the bright-lit daytime? I don't believe I've seen any.
Mighty_Emperor said:Might be one of those weird uncollected data points that would be quite interesting.
OldTimeRadio said:Are there any accounts of visits from the Old Hag reported by sleepers reposing in the bright-lit daytime? I don't believe I've seen any.
OldTimeRadio said:Are there any accounts of visits from the Old Hag reported by sleepers reposing in the bright-lit daytime? I don't believe I've seen any.
OldTimeRadio said:Thank you, Quixote and Minda.
Personally I've always liked sleeping in the daylight. Some of the most restful naps I've ever had have been in a little pool of shade under a leafy tree during the bright heat of summer.
firefly52 said:I'm not too sure if there are spirits or 'demons' involved??
OldTimeRadio said:firefly52 said:I'm not too sure if there are spirits or 'demons' involved??
Neither am I, but it strikes me that many contemporary SP/OH researchers are far too quick to dismiss even the possibility. They seem to have interest only in stick-and-stone wholly materialistic explanations. No others need even bother to apply.
Mighty_Emperor said:Have you experienced the hag at any time?
OldTimeRadio said:Mighty_Emperor said:Have you experienced the hag at any time?
No I haven't, Emps, not even once.
But I've been terribly afraid of seeing the Hag from earliest childhood on. Occasionally I experience this even today and it's lights on for the rest of the night. (I've never had the fear during the daylight hours, nor even at night when I'm awake and engaged in some pursuit.)
Mighty_Emperor said:Equally there is no reason to invoke demons if the phenomena has a natural explanation.
OldTimeRadio said:Mighty_Emperor said:Equally there is no reason to invoke demons if the phenomena has a natural explanation.
But I don't neccessarily regard demons as "un-natural," at least not in this context. If things exist, they're "natural."
Mighty_Emperor said:Parasomnia is the simpler and more testable hypothesis and has to be falsified before you have to invoke external causes.
OldTimeRadio said:Mighty_Emperor said:Parasomnia is the simpler and more testable hypothesis and has to be falsified before you have to invoke external causes.
But isn't "parasomnia" merely a collective term for a assemblage of sleep-related symptoms, regardless of whether those symptoms are triggered by spooks or spicy cheese?
parasomnias represent the activation of physiological systems at inappropriate times during the sleep-wake cycle. In particular, these disorders involve activation of the autonomic nervous system, motor system, or cognitive processes during sleep or sleep-wake transitions.
Gunnlod said:But that all goes out the window when she's around. I've never actually seen her, but she's a definite physical presence And she scares the bejaysus out of me.
DeeDeeTee said:Of course I still managed to scare myself, as I was lying there thinking "this is beautiful" I thought a question to 'her' - which she then promptly answered with a deep and meaningful answer! which gave me a bloody shock and I woke up.
Unfortunately I did not write this dialogue down, hence it is lost forever (memo to self - keep note pad and pen next to bed....)
firefly52 said:What puzzels me though, is that when, on the rare occasion, over the years, I've mentioned it to a Doctor (wondering if it may be some sort of 'Sleep epilepsy'?) They've reacted as if they've never heard of such a condition.
One of the most defining points in the creation of El Muerto was when Hernandez was awoken by a nightmare where a ghost was strangling him:
(Taken from "El Muerto on My Mind")
"I was getting the life choked out of me! Attacked in my sleep by this thing, choking the life from me. It's grip on my throat felt like a steel clamp being tightened mercilessly. What really freaked me out was the thing had the exact facial designs as El Muerto! Bone white with blackened eyeballs, black teeth marks and a cross on his forehead...The bed was shaking violently and my last bit of breath was used up, then, it stopped...strangely I didn't feel as if I awoke from the dream, it was more like the thing had suddenly disappeared...I could feel where it's fingers had just been wrapped around my neck."
firefly52 wrote:
What puzzels me though, is that when, on the rare occasion, over the years, I've mentioned it to a Doctor (wondering if it may be some sort of 'Sleep epilepsy'?) They've reacted as if they've never heard of such a condition.